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FightThisPatent 10-20-2003 04:28 PM

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Originally posted by Squirtit


More people behind you just on this list then all of the 22 employees of Acacia!! ;)


For each person that list there may be 10 to 100 people that they who would support this effort...so the numbers are growing, and so is the pledge counter!

Fight the Patent!

Far-L 10-20-2003 04:33 PM

Squirtit: I am not an attorney so I am not the one to answer that question, but I bet the more the better and that every bit helps.

Centurion 10-20-2003 04:36 PM

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Originally posted by BrentD




What I was saying is that I will not take the sweetheart deal, I will wait past the Nov 30th deadline to see what happens, but they can not shut me down yet because they haven't even filed to take me to court yet, so no judge will give them a shutdown order when they aren't even sueing me yet. If a judge does thern theres going to be a much larger battle against that judge and the court then acacia could ever think about;)

Not trying to beat a dead horse..just trying to understand is this:
if you get a court date, will you go to court then?
Should you lose the case in court, are you willing to go that extra mile and NOT pay them what the court rules you to pay?

BrentD 10-20-2003 04:44 PM

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Originally posted by Centurion


Not trying to beat a dead horse..just trying to understand is this:
if you get a court date, will you go to court then?
Should you lose the case in court, are you willing to go that extra mile and NOT pay them what the court rules you to pay?


As I said yes I will go into court and file for a jury trial as I stated before and then take that time to prepare a defense case, I cannot afford a high priced lawyer so I am going to try to defend myself using what prior art and such is found and the words and wisdom of those who are helping to fight this along with us all. So I would say in everyoens best interest lets beat this before I get up there and make an ass of myself trying to defend myself (if they let me, if not then I guess I will take a court appointed lawyer).

FightThisPatent 10-21-2003 06:47 AM

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Originally posted by Far-L
Squirtit: I am not an attorney so I am not the one to answer that question, but I bet the more the better and that every bit helps.

There are always the need for the gold nuggets within the rubble, harder to find, but have strong value.

The leads on http://www.FightThePatent.com/v2/Searching.html are some possible gold mines to be searching.

I have been making phone calls to track down people that were involved with the technology on the searching page...getting some good results, other results like Leonard C. is he's too busy to help.

This is where FTPF would have given him a reason to be motivated to help.... pledges still keep coming in...


Fight the Patent!

Far-L 10-21-2003 10:12 AM

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Originally posted by Centurion


Not trying to beat a dead horse..just trying to understand is this:
if you get a court date, will you go to court then?
Should you lose the case in court, are you willing to go that extra mile and NOT pay them what the court rules you to pay?

If the patent is valid or applicable then i am more than willing to pay. I am not anti-patent. I believe that Acacia's patents are not valid nor are they applicable by any stretch and that is what we are going to court to prove.

RiverRat19602003 10-21-2003 08:31 PM

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Originally posted by Far-L


If the patent is valid or applicable then i am more than willing to pay. I am not anti-patent. I believe that Acacia's patents are not valid nor are they applicable by any stretch and that is what we are going to court to prove.

Hi Far-L,

My site is a little one that brings in less than 60k a year and doesn't rely on video. Any video I may have had is gone. I have not been contacted by Acacia either. I plan on supplying video to my customers via CD just like I did before bandwidth got cheap. Thankfully, I have that option while this patent crap gets hashed out.

Even so, I think everyone who cares should be donating to the defense fund for the very next court case. This is the most important cause right now.


Send me an email and let me know how I can contribute to the defense fund. It won't be thousands, but if enough people pitch in, it may help.

[email protected]

FightThisPatent 10-21-2003 09:24 PM

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Originally posted by RiverRat19602003


I plan on supplying video to my customers via CD just like I did before bandwidth got cheap. Thankfully, I have that option while this patent crap gets hashed out.



I hear ya on trying to work around the Acacia and other video patents, but another patent that lingers out there, is PanIP who has a patent for the graphical and textual presentation of information on a video screen for making a sale..transalation, selling stuff from a website.

Their patent is at: http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-P...S=PN/5,576,951


This website http://www.youmaybenext.com is trying to bring a group of defendants together to fight against this patent.

And judging by their message board, there is another company (http://www.internetretailer.com/dailyNews.asp?id=7838) that has similar patent claims.

The more you read about these patent (abuse) cases, the more and more your head hurts...

There should be a Congressional study on how much money is lost by businesses every year on patent litigiation, especially the statistic where the patent was found to be invalid.


Fight the Patent!

RiverRat19602003 10-22-2003 12:44 AM

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Originally posted by FightThisPatent



I hear ya on trying to work around the Acacia and other video patents, but another patent that lingers out there, is PanIP who has a patent for the graphical and textual presentation of information on a video screen for making a sale..transalation, selling stuff from a website.



The more you read about these patent (abuse) cases, the more and more your head hurts...




Fight the Patent!


Actually, the more I read this shit the more I think about opening a hosting company in Ghana or some other lawless country! Anyone interested in that?

Paul Markham 10-22-2003 05:05 AM

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Originally posted by Squirtit


Do you think the search for prior art must continue or do you feel you've reached the apex with prior art and really don't need more?

Let me know! :thumbsup


OI spoke to Spike last week and he said the more the merrier, because it is going to make Acacia look as if they firstly did not do their job in searching for it and that their tactics were typical in Patent cases. Frighten people into paying the license fees, by making it cheaper to settle.

I gave Squirtit $1,000 worth of free content from our sites and will do the same to any other person who finds evidence of "Prior Art" that Spike uses. Any evidence you find should be sent to Spike at Homegrown.com

What upsets me is I'm sitting in the Czech Republic and can pull everything back to here so easily and operate without having Acacia follow me, all I have is an unused Californian Corperation. But I'm so intent on getting this crushed, because if we do not there will be more Patent cases to come.

Paul Markham 10-22-2003 05:19 AM

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I hear ya on trying to work around the Acacia and other video patents, but another patent that lingers out there, is PanIP who has a patent for the graphical and textual presentation of information on a video screen for making a sale..transalation, selling stuff from a website.

Their patent is at: http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-...RS=PN/5,576,951

This website http://www.youmaybenext.com is trying to bring a group of defendants together to fight against this patent.

And judging by their message board, there is another company (http://www.internetretailer.com/dailyNews.asp?id=7838) that has similar patent claims.

The more you read about these patent (abuse) cases, the more and more your head hurts...

There should be a Congressional study on how much money is lost by businesses every year on patent litigiation, especially the statistic where the patent was found to be invalid.
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Originally posted by RiverRat19602003


Actually, the more I read this shit the more I think about opening a hosting company in Ghana or some other lawless country! Anyone interested in that?

Try the Czech Republic, good connections and courts that would laugh at this.

Is it any wonder that the EEC is starting to look very closely at the software patent issue?

Que? 10-22-2003 06:20 AM

I will wait and see how they plan to get me in the EU.
Possibly lose a domain but I will have a backup domain setup and ready to go.

And then another....

RiverRat19602003 10-22-2003 04:00 PM

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Originally posted by charly
Try the Czech Republic, good connections and courts that would laugh at this.

Hi,

I'm serious about moving my stuff. Do you have any suggestions for hosting in the Czech Republic? I need a dedicated Windows server and use about 350 gbyte a month.

Mr.Fiction 10-22-2003 05:15 PM

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Originally posted by RiverRat19602003


Hi,

I'm serious about moving my stuff. Do you have any suggestions for hosting in the Czech Republic? I need a dedicated Windows server and use about 350 gbyte a month.

How slow are Czech hosted sites from the U.S.?

SetTheWorldonFire 10-22-2003 06:41 PM

a couple more patents and internet porn will be too expensive to buy.

Fight The Patent! :BangBang:


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