I DONT really give a shit what other say.... but do care what others think most of the time :winkwink:

I think maybe it would be better if you said most STRAIGHT people think of it that way. I know most gay men don't.

Well said :thumbsup

Now here is what I consider an even more important question:
While I'm getting used to all the 'slang' for gay men that is used on GFY, do posts like this acurately reflect hate, or just an attempt to get a rise out of someone (no pun intended)?

P.S. This is a bad example (consider the source! Doh!) But I'm talking about the general posts about gaymen using the word "faggot".

I want freedom of speech. But don't let people say mean things! That's bad.

Gay?

http://www.ggreg.com/images/london/brightonpride/02.jpg

That's NOT the issue here. It's really a simple question: Do you consider the use of the word "faggot" inflammatory/hateful?

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Nope. Not at all. Neither is ******, dyke, wop, gimp, retard, spic, chink... need I go on?

Words are words. Nothing more, nothing less. They have a general meaning, but how the word is used in context makes or breaks the meaning of the statement.

Furthermore, why people actually give a fuck what others say or think about them is still completely beyond me. There are over 6 billion people in the world, around 300 million in the United States alone.

EVERYONE IS NOT GOING TO LIKE YOU. Not everyone is going to treat you with respect. That's life. Deal with it or go live in a bubble. Or better yet, buy an island in the South Pacific and move all your buddies there. Nobody to hurt your feelings!

if i were gay, i'd be outraged at the great britain smoking community.

exactly ....why dont people say hey queer?.....because hey faggot has much more impact

essentialy they should both mean the same thing ......but for gays faggot has been turned into a mean and nasty word that has deemed them to be less than human or perverted or sick

Sure, and I don't like the word retard. Are you going to stop using it?

"That's retarded." "You're a retard."

Retard is quite the derogatory term. Does anyone care? Fuck no. It's used in everyday language more than "fag" by far.

Fag.

Brits are much more tolerant of gays than those in the usa


and if a fag was really smoke then gays would have no reason to be offended by the word would they ?

because in britain hey you fag would mean hey you ciggarette

those fags are finally catching on eh?

See..wasn't a difficult question to answer was it?
And I deal with your shrillness on a daily basis and take it for what it is worth..basically NOTHING!

Great! You're making progress then. Keep up the good work!

:1orglaugh LOTS of fags in England!

Is it me or are fags oversensitive pussies? :Graucho

lol... true.

i personally try and stay away from those kinds of words. i usually don't care if someone calls me a honkey or whatever, but i know plenty of people that definitely don't like those kinds of things.

Wheres that tard?
Check out this thread buddy. I don't see you in there bitching about the use of "tard". Why not?

uuh oh

DOES IT SAY GFY MODERATOR uner my name no I think not

i cant monitor all threads its just that the thread that caught my eye with the word FAGGOT caught my eye because I am gay


i stated in an erlier reply that everyone including myself should be more aware of what come out of our mouths

and if i was retarded, I would probably be bitching about the use of that word too....

It just so happens that I am not retarded , but I am gay, so I have more of a personal interest in the deragatory use of the word faggot...

I dont think thats its right to use any deragatory word that makes someone feel less than what they are but I am guilty of it myself as i stated in an erlier reply "everyone including myself should be more aware of what comes out of our mouths"

thats why

tooo fuckin funny that as i posted that that it changed what was under my name to that

for all of you that think that the use of the word FAGGOT is ok....


I put up this challenge...... On a friday night after 11 pm walk any one of these bars

http://www.eagle-ny.com/
http://www.chicagoeagle.com/
http://www.loadingdocksf.com/

Thats EAST COAST CENTRAL and WEST COAST LOCATIONS if you need one closer to you let me know


Take a friend with you with a video camera to film the whole thing

start calling all of the patrons fags and faggots(this must be done for at least 20-25 min) and have the whole thing video taped .......provide me with the video tape and the name of the bartender that was on duty and send me the video so i can stream it on GFY for everyone to see why you REALLY shouldnt use the word faggot and i will pay you 100 bucks for the non edited version of the tape .....

Then everyone will know why its not good to say faggot ;-)

any TAKERS?

lets see take my challenge .......

Sure. I'll do it when you walk into some mental facility or a school with a special program designed for those with physical and mental impairments and start calling everyone a retard, mongoloid, and a variety of other cruel names that were originally used to deem others as incompetent, stupid, and not worthy of human existence.

You want me to stroll into Harlem with my buddy and start calling him ******? That's suicide, though I do it every day and he really doesn't give a shit. He is black.

In fact he calls me a ****** right back. I'm white as they get.

So a bunch of guys in a gay bar get mad at me for screaming "fag" for 20 minutes. No shit.

what the hell do you think that the word faggot is ?

isnt this kind of a contradiction ?

so basically you are telling me that its ok to use these words ?


wouldnt you feel like a total ass if for example you had a good business account/relationship with someone.... you go out to dinner with them have a few drinks start bullshitting and start using the term faggot or retard... redneck (whatever) only to walk into the office the next day to find a message from that person saying hey i can no longer do business with you because you seem to think that its ok to use the word _________ (whatever) and my brother, mother,sister,cousin is _________(whatever)

result you loose your account

I'm fairly certain the original meaning of faggot was:
A bundle of twigs, sticks, or branches bound together.
A bundle of pieces of iron or steel to be welded or hammered into bars.

Just like I'm fairly certain the original meaning of gay was:
Showing or characterized by cheerfulness and lighthearted excitement; merry.
Bright or lively, especially in color: a gay, sunny room.

And even retard, I'm fairly certain the original meaning was:
To cause to move or proceed slowly; delay or impede.

Over the years, the definitions have changed and continue to change. I know several black people who have no problem being called "colored", while others will totally flip out and ream your ass with a 10 foot poll. Meanings of words always change, that's why context is extremely important.

Couple years back "gay" was even considered derogatory. I'm not sure if it still is, but it doesn't seem like it. They're fucking words. Who cares? You leave me alone and I'll leave you alone, gaydom for everyone!

using the word "faggot" is just aggressive...

and always makes me think less of the person using it.

well normally I wouldnt, but:
FAG!

awww poor wittle sensitive faggot

Go live on an island with the rest of all the fa...err homos and you wont have problems with "us" heteros anymore.

Honestly, i dont have problems with gays but i do have problems with gays posting shit like this.

You are so proud to be gay, yet you have problems with people who have problems with you.

You want to be treated like a normal person, yet you want gay bars, gay parades gaylympics etc.

strop crying.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

So is this basically how everyone is gonna start trolling for gay traffic now? :1orglaugh Gary-Alan's crew is doing such a bang-up job, so why not jump on the wagon, lol?

Yes, I have plenty of gay guy friends that I call faggots. As a matter of fact, it's usually more like "faggoty little queen" or "fairy faggot princess". I usually try and work in the word "Chris" somewhere too, after our favorite home decorating fag. And sometimes they call me a bitch, whore, c*nt, dumb blonde, or whatever. None of us cries about it or loses sleep.

From your front page:
"The use of the word boy in our domain name or throughout our site NO WAY IMPLIES reference to underage models.

It is well known that the word BOY is frequently used in the GAY scene to describe younger looking males."

So why doesn't talking about fucking "boys" make you a pedo? Same reason using the word "faggot" doesn't necessarily make someone a gay-basher.

It's called pragmatics.

Try walking into a bar and start shouting "I like strawberry milkshakes" at people for 20 minutes. No doubt you'll get your ass kicked.

So you point was?

I am a normal person...... I just dont want to be called a faggot.

And since its people like you that dont accept people like me because i dont live up to YOUR standards of NORMAL is the reason I have to go to a gay bar....If I want to go out and be myself with my boyfriend how long do you think I would last at a predominate heterosexual establishment dancing with him on the dance floor.......NOT long before the hate started I am sure.....

I am by no means a fucking CRYBABY.......You guys are just full of fucking hatred and biggotry.....


I am "NORMAL" because I wouldnt think twice if I went to a bar and saw anyone dancing together even a same sex couple...

What i think is NOT normal is that someone can think less of someone because of who they sleep with......

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