50 lightspeeders

HELLO MUM!!!!

50 Jerseys

DynaMite

FUCKER!!!

DynaMite :321GFY

Takes a big man to stand up to principles over money, good move Steve. :thumbsup

WG

I'd love to hear what happened, but I guess I'll never know.

I'm glad to see that some people don't value money over integrity at all times. Way to hold your ground Steve. :thumbsup

Steve simply can not take the heat, he snaps faster than KB runs. Getting under his skin is easy, but still entertaining. And in the end, I stick to my guns about the opinion I have of his business model.

you're a fucking leech and your opinion is worth nothing.

:thefinger

If you have sites that have "young" girls, you're no different, then. There's no shades of grey the way you're painting it, so, that being the case, stop deluding yourself about what side of the fence you're on.

My business model does not cater to pedophiles, as IMHO Steve's does. You call it Grey, I call it catering to pedophiles. I joined a lightspeed site last week, and my opinion is stronger than ever and I will continue to voice it.

Steve can continue to crack and throw up diversions, rather than deal with the reality. One day, he may get a dose of reality, and it will not be from me.

In reality if that's what you believe, any sites that aim towards the teen market are ALL catering to pedophiles. There is no way anyone can justify taking a moral high ground on this kind of a subject while still running teen sites, then. A man who lives in a glass house should throw no stones. I've been all through Lightspeed's sites. Several of their models, like Taylor Little, Rachel, and several others, I think look quite a bit older than I would consider an 18 year old teen, and the rest... well.. Sure those girls look younger, but I've seen 14 year olds that look 20, 12 year olds that look 18, and 10 year olds with babies. Who are you to be the ultimate judge of how old or young a girl looks? If you are going to be so vociferous on the subject, why limit it to just Steve? I can name 20 other programs that all specilize in teen solo amateur sites. If you're going to condemn them, condemn them all.

I get the feeling, however, this is more personal than a point with actual validity..

Killer.

Steve, you are one lucky man. Doors will now open for you that you never dreamed imaginable.

Its almost as good as being Hungryman Approved.

hahaha hungryman approved hahaha

:BangBang:

How do I get myself one of those jerseys lol

Yngwie

Tell Steve how great he is, 29 times, then he will consider you. Bonus points if you slander me.

If at the same time you can manage to work in a nervous breakdown and threaten to kill yourself you can get a job at adult.com and become a mod.

You will be mad stylin with your new LS jersey and a jobby job.

But aren't you slandering him too? Your accusations are very bold and I would say you aren't being overly HUMBLE about them either, IMHO. :P

I have never slandered Steve. Calling him stupid, an idiot, is not slander, it is my opinion. Saying that his business model caters to pedophiles, is my opinion.

Believe me, if Steve felt I had slandered him maliciously, I would have been served legal papers. Of course, if he broke down and tried to take any sort of legal route to shut me up, all bets would be off. I seriously doubt he would open his business up to any court.

Steve loves to use the boards, but he can not handle the heat. He runs off like a dog with his tail between his legs. Everything in life can not be bought with free booze and some tits.

Is it personal, sure at this point there are some personal feelings involved. But in the end, that's not why I ride Steve. I simply think he is a detriment to this business. A ticking time bomb.

Brad, you are a fool, and if you want a fight you've got one. I do not fear you. I do not fear opening my books and records to inspection. Let's play. Its my game now you fucking asshole.

You should hope I don't dedicate my tme and resources into running your agly ass off the net. People would cheer.

Steve Lightspeed

Steve, good to see you came to play;-) Call me many things, a asshole etc, but anyone who knows me knows that I am no fool.


Rule #1 Do not get all worked up so quickly. I have plenty of time, and perfer to watch you squirm and wiggle.


BTW, I was not talking about opening your books. I could care a less to see your books/records. I have no doubt they are in order. I have never claimed they were not.


Now as far you dressing up 18-21 year old models to appear younger, thats a different story.

great drama! :)

Continue to make accusations and insunuations Brad. They mean nothing coming from you.

You don't know anything about our productions. I'm sure you don't know that we let our girls buy their own clothes they like for the photoshoots, and then do their OWN hair and makeup.

You are too proud of your own opinions to learn any facts.

FUCK OFF, if you got something to say, say it to my attorney when he calls on Monday.

Steve Lightspeed

Steve, now that you decide you want to lock horns with me. I suggest calling KB and getting some pointers. You guys have more in common than you may think.


Unfortunately though, I do not think you will be nearly as entertaining. It has to be hard to type with your head so far up your own ass.

Wrong again Brad, TONS of people who know you think you are a fool. They icq me all the time to remind me.

Steve, I will be out of the office until Wed. Family in town and going fishing. I could care a less to speak to your lawyer. If he wants to call and speak to anyone, have him ask for our in house council.

Your legal threats will do nothing to hush me. Legal threats never have. My opinion is my opinion. I have been doing this longer than you have been shooting girls in white panites and pj's.

If you want to open your business up to a court of law, vs. my opinions, so be it. But I suggest you give it serious thought and understand the consequences of your actions. If you are half way intelligent, you would learn to spin things, not make idol threats.

Go spin on your own thumb, asshole. Since you seem so rich, lets see how much money we can both sink into a legal fight. I got nothing better to do.

Steve, are these the same people who blow smoke up your ass and do not know me? Have they met me, or do they "amp" gfy know me? Why don't you ask any of our mutal friends. I think they would tell you otherwise... Underestimate me and this will not even be entertaining.

Your weakness is really showing through by threatening me legally. We all know, people file lawsuits, they do not come to gfy and gloat about it. Nor do they have their lawyers call me first.

I think I'll save my biggest announcement for your wedding day.

Good thing, because if you sued me for slander/libel, you would need to show how my comments negatively affected your business financially. Do yourself a favor. Rather than your lawyer calling me, have him call you and explain slander/libel law. Then hire a PR guy, because you are terrible and very predictable.

I predict a charity thread or anti child porn thread by Steve any minute now.

When I talk to our "mutual friends" to try to better understand you, they all say, "yeah, Brad is an idiot that way, I'll try to talk to him for you"

then you come here, and taunt me for "crying to our mutual friends"


Fuck off again Brad, I did everything I could to avoid this, this is your choice.

Class. One thing I synonymous with you, class. Steve, my issues are with your business model, not you personally. Sure you are an idiot, and lead the life of an idiot, but there are only so many hours in the day.

Put up or shut up Brad, you are boring me now.

Steve, you cry to everyone. I throw a barb here and there and you cry like a 13 year old who took her lollipop away.

There is nothing to avoid. I have been doing this for 7 years, stating my opinions. I will continue to do so. Do not let your over inflated ego think that you can change that.

You choose to post on public chat boards and promote yourself as the greatest thing since sliced bread. Therefore, you are subject to my opinions. Deal with it. It is not a one way street. I know you are used to having everything you way, and manipulating people. I will not be manipulated by an amateur businessman who ran has porn operation out of a residential neighborhood.

Steve, there is nothing to put up. You are the one here making threats. I understand how this business works, and how the chat boards. Everything will not always go your way.

I am not here threatening you, nor do I care to. I am simply stating my opinions of your business, and its model.

I totally understand your point Brad. So when I say "IN MY OPINION, BRAD SHAW IS A POINTLESS FUCKING HAS-BEEN, can I get an AMEN?"

That would just be stating my opinion.

And everyone who replies "AMEN" to this thread is just stating their's.

I get it now. Thanks for clearing that up.

Pointless? I have a point, and no doubt on some level you get it. Whether you want to accept it publicly or not. Steve, there is not much to piss about. I mention my opinion about your business model from time to time, and give you guys a hard time, deal with it.

You should learn to embrace it, but you are not smart enough to turn a negative into a positive. You make KB look like a PR expert.

Most businessmen do not learn turning a negative into a positive until they have been in biz for 4+ years. Maybe I will send you a couple books next week. Do you read books?

you keeps say this... over and over and over. like a mantra.

Steve can not accept the fact that nothing he can do will change me or my opinions. He is a relative newbie and needs someone to take him under his wing and explain this, among other things to him.

If you want to talk about running a successful business Brad, lets compare annual sales growth over the last 4 years. Lightspeedcash is up over 40% this year alone. Are you? Don't lie now, remember I know people who KNOW your numbers.

This is why you are so public against me, you are a loser.

IN MY OPINION, you should go fuck yourself.

Steve, last quarter was my best quarter in this business ever.

As far as 40% growth this year, no. We have been growing each year for 7 years, so hard to grow 40% this year. With that said, this year will be my most profitable ever.

How much did you make in 1997 or 1998;-)

There are many people in this business with far superior business skills that I. But you Steve Jones are not one of them.

I also find it pathetic that the only way you can get your name out there is to bash mine.

Yeah, you are some kinda business genius.

That's because you dropped your prices to get people to buy your crappy content. And it looks to me like Jstyles had to show you how to do it, just like Fantasyman had to teach you everything back in the day, back when you even copied lensmans html for your sites.

Steve, if you seriously think the only reason I state my opinions about you is to get my name out there, you are misguided. I have no problem getting my name out there. I just about invented making millions off chat boards. I learned from Serge. There is VERY little $ to be made anymore on the boards. We both run programs, but I do not consider you competiton, and I am sure you feel the same way about me.

I rarely post, looking to make $. I post to keep egos in check and give people a dose of reality.

Steve, you clearly do not have any idea where/how I make my $. Spend your brain power elsewhere, you will not figure it out. It is beyond your amateur business mind.

My business model is multi-faceted. Many eggs in many baskets.

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I wonder what it is called when you dress up old skanks with pigtails and try and sell them as YOUNG SCHOOLGIRLS

BradShaw
Yo momma

Registered: Oct 2001
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right, and you've admitted to posting for sport, why are you changing your story now?

It is called listening to my lawyers.

My lawyer would love to chat with you and your lawyer Brad, but you keep taking time off and avoiding his calls.

Its called false-advertising and an open-invitation to customer dissatisfaction and probable chargebacks.