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Old 10-17-2003, 09:25 AM   #1
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Any Real Americans Would Be Ashamed

These ignorant christian fucks are ruining our country.

period.

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'Washington - A three-star general active in the search for Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein has told religious audiences that the war on terrorism is a battle between a "Christian army" and Satan, and that Muslims worship an "idol" and not a "real God.

In June, Boykin said, "The battle that we're in is a spiritual battle. Satan wants to destroy this nation, he wants to destroy us as a nation, and he wants to destroy us as a Christian army.'

And <i>THESE</i> are the people defending me?
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The ignorant christian fucks are ruining our country.

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And <i>THESE</> are the people defenging me?

Lol... I find your spelling error funny...


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Lol... I find your spelling error funny...


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Mine was a typo, unlike your sig.

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I'm sure they speak on behalf of the majority. You will find that the majority of the US military is not filled with atheists and they do have Christian mass services as well.
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I'm sure they speak on behalf of the majority. You will find that the majority of the US military is not filled with atheists and they do have Christian mass services as well.
This doesnt matter, this is NOT A war against Satan!

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Sympathy for the Muslims...

The Stones are remixing this as we speak.
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Mine was a typo, unlike your sig.

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I am persuading every friend I know to turn to buddist, although I personally believe the world will be much better w/o any religion. Oh, communist is another stupid religion, and I felt impulsive to point it out.

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My point was the level of IGNORANCE these military leaders have.

'I knew that my God was a real God and his was an idol," Boykin said.'

People that think like that should not be in charge of heavy farm equipment let alone armies.
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I'm sure they speak on behalf of the majority. You will find that the majority of the US military is not filled with atheists and they do have Christian mass services as well.
If "the majority" supports religious war, "the majority" should be stabbed in the throat with a broken bottle.
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Correct me if I`m wrong, but don´t Christians, Muslims and Jews all belive in the same God?

So how can the Christian god be bigger than the Muslim god?
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But do you also believe that we should not say "under god" in the pledge or have "in god we trust" on money???


For one thing he was in a CHURCH....
And it is true that this country was founded on judao-christian beliefs, and that is ONE of the reasons we are hated.

The only problem I have is that he was in uniform.
Saying shit like that while in uniform is a no no.
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I'm sure they speak on behalf of the majority. You will find that the majority of the US military is not filled with atheists and they do have Christian mass services as well.
Mmmhmm.. so religious freedom wasn't ACTUALLY supposed to be a thing in America. You guys were just saying that to attract some cheap laborers?
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This doesnt matter, this is NOT A war against Satan!

hahaha
Are you saying Saddam and bin Laden are not evil?

Whether Satan does or doesn't exist, it doesn't matter what the war on terrorism is referred to as. Sugarcoating it, with politically correct phrases makes no difference at this point. If that's how that general sees this war, who fuckin cares? I'm sure there's people that agree with him, I'd even be willing to bet the MAJORITY of military and the US agree with him. So until the majority of the US and it's military become non-believers, this sort of reference is acceptable. Personally I'm glad that he's out there risking his life or in charge of this mess, so he can call it whatever he wants... It's easy to criticize things from 3000 miles away.
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The only problem I have is that he was in uniform.
Saying shit like that while in uniform is a no no.
The point of my thread.

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Correct me if I`m wrong, but don´t Christians, Muslims and Jews all belive in the same God?

So how can the Christian god be bigger than the Muslim god?
Actually, all those religions have the SAME ROOTS! Read the Koran..it's basically EXACTLY the same as the bible, just worded a little differently at times.... The US turning this into a fucking "religious" war is a load of bullshit. They are only encouraging FURTHER jihads from the Islamic extremists. And what about all those people in the US who ARE NOT Christian? They don't count? They don't have a say? They aren't important because they aren't brainwashed and utterly convinced of their own superiority, both nationally and spiritually?

Fucking bunch of BULLSHIT.
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Are you saying Saddam and bin Laden are not evil?

Whether Satan does or doesn't exist, it doesn't matter what the war on terrorism is referred to as.
This is as far as I read in your post.

They are waging war in Gods name.

THIS is NOT A fucking Holy War.
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The point of my thread.

Glad you finally caught on.
No offence but I caught on last night listening to lars larson. (Talk radio)
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Mmmhmm.. so religious freedom wasn't ACTUALLY supposed to be a thing in America. You guys were just saying that to attract some cheap laborers?
Actually no, not at all. That's his right to believe in what he wants and if people agree with him, they are also allowed. Telling him and others they are NOT allowed to feel that way, would be unconstitutional.
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Theres just no way Im gonna discuss Theologian War matters with a Furious Female and Jesus.

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first its for oil and haliburton contracts, now its a holy war. I cant keep you guys spin straight anymore.
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holy shit...every day this is getting worse...it amazes me how in the scheme of everything that is happening to our country with all jobs being sent to china...terrorism etc that our administration would even try this bullshit with the whole jesus deal...they honestly think they are going to make ligfe into an Ozzie and Harriet episode...even back then it wasnt really like that...the dad on the brady bunch died of aids....this country is litigating itself to death and the christian BS is making the world hate us even more....this country could really have been great...now it's just a place people come to suck money out and destroy...and the gov is worried about if guy's are marrying other guys...and what someone is jerking off to in the privacy of their own home
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Actually no, not at all. That's his right to believe in what he wants and if people agree with him, they are also allowed. Telling him and others they are NOT allowed to feel that way, would be unconstitutional.
That goes both ways. People in positions of government have an obligation to speak for ALL of their people..not just the ones who happen to share the same religious beliefs. Anything less is hypocritical and unconstitutional. The only reason they're turning this bullshit into a "holy war" is because they're running out of excuses to keep it going. People are wising up to the fact that Bush and his crones are on a wild goose chase after the wrong goose, and they aren't dealing with the REAL issues.
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Actually no, not at all. That's his right to believe in what he wants and if people agree with him, they are also allowed. Telling him and others they are NOT allowed to feel that way, would be unconstitutional.
Your missing the point... as a representative of the US military being dressed in a Military uniform... Your not allowed to say shit like that. They drill that into from the start of basic training.
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All I am saying is, that's his right. One general having an opinion on something does not affect the course or purpose of this war. Whether people agree or disagree with him is a moot point, the US never declared this a holy war. This is simply the comment of ONE person, even though I am sure the majority would agree with him.

If a Jewish general wanted to say this is a war against Jesus, who fuckin cares? His opinion doesn't change anything.
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People that think like that should not be in charge of heavy farm equipment let alone armies.

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Stupid remarks...and yes Lady Mischief is correct.

Sure you can have your own opinion, but when you are in a position of power and a leading commander in the military who is actively participating in a war against a certain group of people is speaking for the nation whether it's actually verbal, or through actions.
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All I am saying is, that's his right. One general having an opinion on something does not affect the course or purpose of this war. Whether people agree or disagree with him is a moot point, the US never declared this a holy war. This is simply the comment of ONE person, even though I am sure the majority would agree with him.

If a Jewish general wanted to say this is a war against Jesus, who fuckin cares? His opinion doesn't change anything.
So if a cop made it his duty to clean the streets of non-christian offenders and made this statement public while in uniform it would be cool? He will fight for Justice for Jesus!

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And on a worldwide scale, CHRISTIANITY IS A FUCKING MINORITY. Just because it's predominant in North America doesn't mean it's the way the world is. The US is currying NO favors with the worldwide religious majority. Want proof?

http://www.zpub.com/un/pope/relig.html
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All I am saying is, that's his right. One general having an opinion on something does not affect the course or purpose of this war. Whether people agree or disagree with him is a moot point, the US never declared this a holy war. This is simply the comment of ONE person, even though I am sure the majority would agree with him.

If a Jewish general wanted to say this is a war against Jesus, who fuckin cares? His opinion doesn't change anything.
Having and opinion and stating that opinion publically and giving every indication that it's the opinion of the entire government are worlds apart.
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THIS is NOT A fucking Holy War.
Maybe not to you, maybe even to most, but I would bet my soul those in the leadership of both sides would argue that point( at least in private) and they are the ones pulling the strings...

The sad reality is this whole thing is much bigger than 9/11, oil, terrorism or whatever lame reason the puppetmasters that are in charge of this war give to the masses... It doesn't much matter what the people think, they are just puppets...

I'm not saying it is right, I'm just saying that seems to be the reality of the situation...
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Are you saying Saddam and bin Laden are not evil?

Whether Satan does or doesn't exist, it doesn't matter what the war on terrorism is referred to as. Sugarcoating it, with politically correct phrases makes no difference at this point. If that's how that general sees this war, who fuckin cares? I'm sure there's people that agree with him, I'd even be willing to bet the MAJORITY of military and the US agree with him. So until the majority of the US and it's military become non-believers, this sort of reference is acceptable. Personally I'm glad that he's out there risking his life or in charge of this mess, so he can call it whatever he wants... It's easy to criticize things from 3000 miles away.
so then you pretty much agree that its ok that the us military see this as a holy war against islam? i thought that was what the evil bin laden and saddam did.. fighting the holy war against christians and jews. Tell me the diffrence between us and them again?
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Tell me the diffrence between us and them again?
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Old 10-17-2003, 09:57 AM   #38
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We are right and they are wrong ;)
Yeah, apparently any holy war launched from here is ok, but if it's from them (and they have always viewed it as one), it's an outrage.
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Boykin made some of the comments to Christian church audiences while in uniform, which Myers said is allowed in certain circumstances.
We're talking about comments made to a Christian audience in CHURCH. Ok maybe he shouldn't have been in his uniform while he said it, I will give you that. But it is allowed in certain circumstances like it says above and we do not know the exact circumstances. He was preaching to the choir. Not like he held a newsconference and said this.

Where did this even take place? Was this in Iraq, maybe he suffers from heat stroke. Who knows. Why make such a mountain out of a molehill. If the President said something like this, it would be scary and wrong, but we are talking about one general, who happens to be of Christian faith, talking to others that share his faith.
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Anyone who fights for a religion is a moron. Taking up arms against other faiths for the sake of yours makes you an extremist and no better than the guys who fly planes into buildings.
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Anyone who fights for a religion is a moron. Taking up arms against other faiths for the sake of yours makes you an extremist and no better than the guys who fly planes into buildings.

True, however that's the reality of the situation...
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Actually no, not at all. That's his right to believe in what he wants and if people agree with him, they are also allowed. Telling him and others they are NOT allowed to feel that way, would be unconstitutional.
Religious freedom is one thing...it is based on the freedom of a group of people to peacefully gather and share beliefs...a distinct difference from taking those beliefs and justifying the death of people through them. Saddam and Osama were/are (whatever you want) evil people, not because they followed Satan, because they disrespected fellow humans, period. I want generals telling me that they are liberating Iraqis, period...and if that was the case, there would be no need for excuses........

But....Saddam and Osama did need to go...and for that, unfortunately, I must thank the Bush administration. Just do it for the right reasons, please.
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Funny if disturbing thread. Whatever drugs furious_female takes I want some. Stuff that good should be spread around.

Whoever mentioned buddism It's the only religion with half a chance of getting rid of the atheist in me. They have some good beliefs
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Anyone who fights for a religion is a moron. Taking up arms against other faiths for the sake of yours makes you an extremist and no better than the guys who fly planes into buildings.
I agree with you... but, there's a difference between doing things out of goodness and doing things out of hatred.

Christian Children's Fund for example. Feeding hungry children all over the world. Most certainly religion based, but does that make them as bad as someone flying planes into a building, for doing positive things in the name of God? I think it's fine that anyone uses religion as an excuse to do positive things for humanity.
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Goddamn! What I see... I'm not surprised now, why americans known for their foolishness.....
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Religious freedom is one thing...it is based on the freedom of a group of people to peacefully gather and share beliefs...a distinct difference from taking those beliefs and justifying the death of people through them. Saddam and Osama were/are (whatever you want) evil people, not because they followed Satan, because they disrespected fellow humans, period. I want generals telling me that they are liberating Iraqis, period...and if that was the case, there would be no need for excuses........

But....Saddam and Osama did need to go...and for that, unfortunately, I must thank the Bush administration. Just do it for the right reasons, please.
You're forgetting one thing. Osama isn't gone. And with the death of Osama, if it happens, Al Queda won't be gone either. There is a LOT of work left to do.
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These ignorant christian fucks are ruining our country.

period.

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationwo...news-headlines

'Washington - A three-star general active in the search for Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein has told religious audiences that the war on terrorism is a battle between a "Christian army" and Satan, and that Muslims worship an "idol" and not a "real God.

In June, Boykin said, "The battle that we're in is a spiritual battle. Satan wants to destroy this nation, he wants to destroy us as a nation, and he wants to destroy us as a Christian army.'

And <i>THESE</i> are the people defending me?
odd that you don't find these same flaws in the muslim scum we're fighting.
nah, on second thought, its typical of you.
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