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ldinternet · 10-19-2003, 07:44 AM

Fucking 50.

at least until DarkJedi deletes his post.

Kick Ass Chat · 10-19-2003, 09:27 AM

When you pay on only 7 out of 9 consoles (Like Zebra Said) then basically why does the sponsor even care if you get any sales on the 7 they pay on???......If the sales are on the 2 (or more) that they are not paying you on, then you are basically feeding them FREE traffic to use for their own profit.......

slapass · 10-19-2003, 09:29 AM

They have console free links. and it is revshare so go pop up free if that is what you want.

Edit:

Fuck it they do not have console free links.

slapass · 10-19-2003, 09:32 AM

Console free has 2 exit pops!

DarkJedi · 10-19-2003, 09:39 AM

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Originally posted by slapass
Console free has 2 exit pops!

The Hun · 10-21-2003, 01:52 AM

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Originally posted by Lightspeed
"popping too many consoles"

please define "too many"

Personal opinion? User clicks an add, checks the tour maybe, sees a price, but doesn't want to sign up (yet)... then back means back... people don't click 'back' or 'no' accidentally. And if they do they can just click the banner again. I think any console is too many. Just imagine how ticked off you are yourself if people keep asking you if you want to buy something when you said a very clear 'no' the first time they contacted. Consoles tend to annoy people. The majority of the surfers now are very hesitant to click banners due to the fact that they have been seeing a few consoles too many on ads...

The Hun · 10-21-2003, 01:55 AM

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Originally posted by BradShaw

Looks like the Huns big ego can not be bought with a dinner or some tits in his face. Too bad most webmasters can be much easier to manipulate, as Steve knows.

Brad... I paid for that dinner

Anyway, this has nothing to do with ego, I'm not telling people what they can or can't promote. I am telling people what galleries I link to from my own site. I think I'm entitled to that since we're talking about links on my own site...

The Hun · 10-21-2003, 01:59 AM

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Originally posted by Lensman

Patrick, I've sent you two emails in the last few months to make sure our console-free options are unbanned, but I haven't heard back. Where's the love?

Lens... on a public board: I love you! Don't worry about that. Something must be going wrong here... Could be my spam filter, it's set to very agressive 'cause I tend to get over 2700 e-mails every day (at a quit day)... I'll drop an e-mail to [email protected] from an e-mail address that is sure to arrive (no spam filter)...

The Hun · 10-21-2003, 02:12 AM

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Originally posted by Zebra

Out of the 9 popups our affiliates get credit for 7. Those extra 7 popups are responsible for a 20% increase in sales for affiliates. It is never more than 9 popups.

I very seriously doubt that in the long run there will be more sales with these consoles. 20% increase in sales might be, but it's blinding the fact that you pissed off all people that didn't sign up.

What's the conversion on those banners? Let's just assume 1 in 400 clicks, I'm just picking a number, you do the math with the correct numbers if I'm too far off... That means 20% more sales means that not 1 out of 400, but 1 out of 320 sign up. That's leaves 319 people that have to go through 9 exit consoles they don't want. How many of those people do you think will click that banner again??

And even with a converion of 1 in 200 we're talking about 1 in 160 when the conversion goes up 20%, which still means 159 people get 9 consoles to sign up the extra 1 guy...

"one upon a time" the Internet has a majority of newbie surfers, now it's a majority of experienced surfers that sign up for a site 'cause it offers what they want to see... Surfers get smart, sell quality and they will sign up. Annoy 'em with 9 consoles on a banner and they'll abandon banners.

Just imagine what you would do if you clicked a banner and got 9 consoles... would that gain your trust? Would it make you sign up? I remember all hell broke loose when a Playboy banner started popping up on this board. That same exact reaction is there with the surfers...

SomeCreep · 10-21-2003, 02:33 AM

You know whats worse than a long chain of popups. Sites that give you a fucking blur console just for visiting the main page. This is one of the reasons my conversions with maxcash suck. Blur console on all their sites, then if you close the blur console, you get a chain of 6 or 7 popups. That must seriously annoy sooooo many surfers.

Pornwolf · 10-21-2003, 02:50 AM

Consoles suck worse than spam IMHO. Unfortunately (fortunately?) they make money for programs. If a company is grossing 5 million a year that 20% means $1 mil to the bottom line. No one can honestly expect anyone in their right mind to give up an extra million.

This is not a conversation we will be having this time next year thanks to the pop up blockers like the one I am using now (Google toolbar).

The Hun · 10-21-2003, 03:38 AM

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Originally posted by Pornwolf
Consoles suck worse than spam IMHO. Unfortunately (fortunately?) they make money for programs. If a company is grossing 5 million a year that 20% means $1 mil to the bottom line. No one can honestly expect anyone in their right mind to give up an extra million.

This is not a conversation we will be having this time next year thanks to the pop up blockers like the one I am using now (Google toolbar).

Short term million you mean, in the long term the people that were annoyed by the consoles won't click the banners twice (honestle, would you?). What market do you think will be making the millions, the ever shrinking newbie market or the ever growing experienced market...

slapass · 10-21-2003, 07:06 AM

If you are flashcashand don't expect them to bookmark the tour and check it once in awhile then the popups make sense but other programs with big tours must get people checking it over and over and then signing up. 9 consoles stops that.

TheSenator · 10-21-2003, 07:42 AM

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Originally posted by slapass
Console free has 2 exit pops!

Aussie Rebel · 10-21-2003, 05:12 PM

Any word from lightspeed if they are going to fix this?

Oracle Porn · 10-21-2003, 05:22 PM

you know what sucks?
i never got listed on the hun...submited about 20 galleries but never got listed..that suck!

Ic3m4nZ · 10-21-2003, 05:35 PM

All the sponsors should have a console free program = more signups.

Fletch XXX · 10-21-2003, 05:37 PM

Dayum.

- Jesus Christ - · 10-21-2003, 05:41 PM

Reason I never use TCG..... Back button hijacking... Its fucking rediculous.

You wanna know why the hun makes more than most affiliate programs do, with a free site???

Common sense.

Doesnt lightspeed have a console free opion though??

pamphage · 10-21-2003, 05:42 PM

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Originally posted by Ic3m4nZ
All the sponsors should have a console free program = more signups.

yes they should. at the very least for their rev share programs. for pps i can understand popping mad consoles.

SteveLightspeed · 10-21-2003, 05:43 PM

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Originally posted by Aussie Rebel
Any word from lightspeed if they are going to fix this?

Yes, as I indicated, we have addressed the issue on our affiliate support board.

Steve

seven · 10-21-2003, 06:21 PM

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Originally posted by Pornwolf
Consoles suck worse than spam IMHO. Unfortunately (fortunately?) they make money for programs. If a company is grossing 5 million a year that 20% means $1 mil to the bottom line. No one can honestly expect anyone in their right mind to give up an extra million.

This is not a conversation we will be having this time next year thanks to the pop up blockers like the one I am using now (Google toolbar).

20%? I believe it's more like 2-5% now if your own site didn't convert well it could very well be 20% or even more off consoles (inversely proportional). Yet, supposing (just for the heck of it) you are correct and it's decent 20% but that 20% could turn into 30%+ off bookmark sales if there was no console (take Hun's word for it, he knows what he's saying when it comes to "bookmarks"

) (unless ofcourse your site sucked then definitely you'd need consoles.. but I already said that). So that means with your pops and $1 million additional you are still losing $500,000. Then again it wouldn't benefit an affiliate if nothing was done to give credit for bookmark sales to affiliates so.. well.. square 1

10-21-2003, 02:33 AM	#60
SomeCreep :glugglug Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Where the Wild Things Are Posts: 26,118	You know whats worse than a long chain of popups. Sites that give you a fucking blur console just for visiting the main page. This is one of the reasons my conversions with maxcash suck. Blur console on all their sites, then if you close the blur console, you get a chain of 6 or 7 popups. That must seriously annoy sooooo many surfers. __________________ Webair Hosting I use and recommend Webair for hosting.

10-21-2003, 02:50 AM	#61
Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	Consoles suck worse than spam IMHO. Unfortunately (fortunately?) they make money for programs. If a company is grossing 5 million a year that 20% means $1 mil to the bottom line. No one can honestly expect anyone in their right mind to give up an extra million. This is not a conversation we will be having this time next year thanks to the pop up blockers like the one I am using now (Google toolbar). __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches.

10-21-2003, 05:22 PM	#66
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10-21-2003, 05:37 PM	#68
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10-21-2003, 05:41 PM	#69
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10-19-2003, 07:44 AM	#51
ldinternet Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 8,245	Fucking 50. at least until DarkJedi deletes his post.

10-19-2003, 09:27 AM	#52
Kick Ass Chat Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 2,057	When you pay on only 7 out of 9 consoles (Like Zebra Said) then basically why does the sponsor even care if you get any sales on the 7 they pay on???......If the sales are on the 2 (or more) that they are not paying you on, then you are basically feeding them FREE traffic to use for their own profit.......

10-19-2003, 09:29 AM	#53
slapass Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 14,625	They have console free links. and it is revshare so go pop up free if that is what you want. Edit: Fuck it they do not have console free links.

10-19-2003, 09:32 AM	#54
slapass Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 14,625	Console free has 2 exit pops!

10-21-2003, 07:06 AM	#63
slapass Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 14,625	If you are flashcashand don't expect them to bookmark the tour and check it once in awhile then the popups make sense but other programs with big tours must get people checking it over and over and then signing up. 9 consoles stops that.

10-21-2003, 05:12 PM	#65
Aussie Rebel Blow Me U Geeks Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Maximum Security Posts: 5,108	Any word from lightspeed if they are going to fix this?

10-21-2003, 05:35 PM	#67
Ic3m4nZ Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Montreal! Posts: 6,285	All the sponsors should have a console free program = more signups.