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Pornkings 10-17-2003 02:57 AM

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Originally posted by WiredGuy


Nice!
So, what's the cost of living like in Tampa ;)

WG

Right now your money goes very far but it is booming fast.

great place to live

Dawgy 10-17-2003 02:59 AM

lots of cute boys in tampa... not that youd care roger :)

i fly in about once a month, then drive down to ft myers to see a couple of special people. next time im heading that way ill give u a holler

quiet 10-17-2003 03:01 AM

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Originally posted by Pornkings


Not sure the number but I bet less then 10 guys have 5 mil cash sitting in the bank right now.
and I'll be honest I'm not one of them. but in 2 months it will be a different story.

Now if sponsors in the biz right now decided to cash out including Pornkings there would be alot more then 10 with 10 mil

I

come on now. i've got over 2M (liquid cash alone, not including any investments), and i'm a nobody. I'd think there are at least 25 guys with over 5M in the bank. easy. probably more.

could be wrong though.

Pornkings 10-17-2003 03:01 AM

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Originally posted by Dawgy
lots of cute boys in tampa... not that youd care roger :)

i fly in about once a month, then drive down to ft myers to see a couple of special people. next time im heading that way ill give u a holler

sounds good anytime.

Dawgy 10-17-2003 03:02 AM

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Originally posted by Pornkings
but in 2 months it will be a different story.

Now if sponsors in the biz right now decided to cash out including Pornkings there would be alot more then 10 with 10 mil

lol... when do the tutorials begin roger?

Pornkings 10-17-2003 03:04 AM

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Originally posted by quiet


come on now. i've got over 2M (liquid cash alone, not including any investments), and i'm a nobody. I'd think there are at least 25 guys with over 5M in the bank. easy. probably more.

could be wrong though.

No your sitting very pretty:thumbsup

WiredGuy 10-17-2003 03:06 AM

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Originally posted by quiet
come on now. i've got over 2M (liquid cash alone, not including any investments), and i'm a nobody. I'd think there are at least 25 guys with over 5M in the bank. easy. probably more.

could be wrong though.

I wouldn't say you're a nobody, you're probably one of the larger webmasters with tons of recurrings. I tend to agree with Roger though, other than the major affiliate program owners and some really large paysites, I would say there's about 10 or so in the 5MM+ range. Hell I'm still working my ass off to make the 1MM mark. Granted I just started doing this full time about 1 year ago.

WG

Dawgy 10-17-2003 03:07 AM

hey quiet, this is slightly off topic... but.... i understand your basic business model, i think most of us do, but when you started out, did you jump in with $x & do what you do now, or did you build up from nothing like most webmasters? just curious, no big deal if u dont wanna answer. :glugglug

quiet 10-17-2003 03:09 AM

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Originally posted by Dawgy
hey quiet, this is slightly off topic... but.... i understand your basic business model, i think most of us do, but when you started out, did you jump in with $x & do what you do now, or did you build up from nothing like most webmasters? just curious, no big deal if u dont wanna answer. :glugglug
i started with fuck all :glugglug

Dawgy 10-17-2003 03:10 AM

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Originally posted by quiet
i started with fuck all :glugglug
fucking kickass :glugglug :thumbsup

Jer 10-17-2003 03:10 AM

Quiet, 100% of your traffic comes from advertising?

quiet 10-17-2003 03:10 AM

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Originally posted by Pornkings


No your sitting very pretty:thumbsup

i'd like to believe that, but i have trouble doing so.

WiredGuy 10-17-2003 03:10 AM

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Originally posted by quiet
i started with fuck all :glugglug
Congrats, its the best feeling in the world ain't it, building your empire from scratch.

WG

Dawgy 10-17-2003 03:11 AM

hey Jer you know any photographers in brazil that can shoot brazillian twinks ? lol

i love this thread... one topic to another... sorry :Graucho

Diamond Jim 10-17-2003 03:11 AM

At least you're getting a booty call, Rog....my woman is in Boston for a few days....so I'm awake wasting time here.... :thumbsup

Dawgy 10-17-2003 03:12 AM

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Originally posted by Diamond Jim
At least you're getting a booty call, Rog....my woman is in Boston for a few days....so I'm awake wasting time here.... :thumbsup
aww. want me to come over with some twinks & give you some lovin? lol :helpme

Diamond Jim 10-17-2003 03:16 AM

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Originally posted by Dawgy

aww. want me to come over with some twinks & give you some lovin? lol :helpme

I'm strictly a bear lover...

Pornkings 10-17-2003 03:16 AM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by WiredGuy


I wouldn't say you're a nobody, you're probably one of the larger webmasters with tons of recurrings. I tend to agree with Roger though, other than the major affiliate program owners and some really large paysites, I would say there's about 10 or so in the 5MM+ range. Hell I'm still working my ass off to make the 1MM mark. Granted I just started doing this full time about 1 year ago.

WG
[/QUOTE

there is a reason why Traffic cash gold had a party for only 25 webmasters. :winkwink:

If you ask me there might only be 20 guys who can send some sales. or who are big whales.

the guys who have 5 mill cashed out already.

when a company cashes out they don't pay webmasters etc.
so its all profit. without going into detail

Jer 10-17-2003 03:17 AM

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Originally posted by Dawgy
hey Jer you know any photographers in brazil that can shoot brazillian twinks ? lol

i love this thread... one topic to another... sorry :Graucho

No, but I know someone who might have some contacts

quiet 10-17-2003 03:19 AM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Pornkings
[B]
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Originally posted by WiredGuy
the guys who have 5 mill cashed out already.
i'm almost at that point myself. and i know a gfy regular who is likely worth 10 times that, at least.

WiredGuy 10-17-2003 03:21 AM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Pornkings
Quote:

there is a reason why Traffic cash gold had a party for only 25 webmasters. :winkwink:

If you ask me there might only be 20 guys who can send some sales. or who are big whales.

the guys who have 5 mill cashed out already.

when a company cashes out they don't pay webmasters etc.
so its all profit. without going into detail
Good point. And we both saw the crowd there, there was maybe what, 6-8 webmasters, the rest were all the other big affiliate programs... and times are changing so we gotta see how this all plays out.

WG

Pornkings 10-17-2003 03:28 AM

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Originally posted by quiet


i'm almost at that point myself. and i know a gfy regular who is likely worth 10 times that, at least.

Quiet you have a differant model then sponsors.

for instants and I'm not bragging if I were to cash out now.
and stop puting money back into the company and not payout webmasters in less then a year I would have 10 mill in an acount no prob.

Do you know what I mean. But there is only a few who can do it cause most big guys already did one example babenet.

sometimes when a company goes out of business its not because they fucked up it's becasue they cashed out.

Dawgy 10-17-2003 03:32 AM

so, roger, ill just fly down to tampa & be your slave/apprentice.

lol :thumbsup

quiet 10-17-2003 03:36 AM

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Originally posted by Pornkings


Quiet you have a differant model then sponsors.

for instants and I'm not bragging if I were to cash out now.
and stop puting money back into the company and not payout webmasters in less then a year I would have 10 mill in an acount no prob.

Do you know what I mean. But there is only a few who can do it cause most big guys already did one example babenet.

sometimes when a company goes out of business its not because they fucked up it's becasue they cashed out.

i understand the different biz models (in general). i understand mine the most of course :)

even for myself, there is no easy way out. i have to sell to get out, since i if i let sales drop, my cb ratio will get fucked up.

the difference is, i have millions net right now. i haven't scammed anyone, and i never will. even if i wanted to, there is really no one to scam, at least for any significant amount of cash.

i'm sure i'm not remotely in the same league as you, or anyone like you. i do well though, and i seem to only do better.

:glugglug

quiet 10-17-2003 03:43 AM

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Originally posted by Pornkings
and stop puting money back into the company and not payout webmasters in less then a year I would have 10 mill in an acount no prob.
:Oh crap

Pornkings 10-17-2003 03:59 AM

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Originally posted by quiet


i understand the different biz models (in general). i understand mine the most of course :)

even for myself, there is no easy way out. i have to sell to get out, since i if i let sales drop, my cb ratio will get fucked up.

the difference is, i have millions net right now. i haven't scammed anyone, and i never will. even if i wanted to, there is really no one to scam, at least for any significant amount of cash.

i'm sure i'm not remotely in the same league as you, or anyone like you. i do well though, and i seem to only do better.

:glugglug

We should talk sometime I know we have said it before just never get around to it.

From what you say you are doing great and are in the top 20

Maybe we can both educate each other. I would like to understand your model better maybe I can help.
we are way under 1%

AWW - Kevin 10-17-2003 05:12 AM

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Originally posted by Diamond Jim


Ya lost me....

Equity is net worth....pointless in the conversation at hand. 5 mil means 5 mil that is in play in some way, but available. In real estate foreclosures, for example, you could have 5 mil in a group of properties waiting them to close (30-120 day window). Assuming you did your homework, that money is as safe as in any bank, but is yielding 70-100% annual returns and not 4%. In MY opinion, that is still hard cash....other opinions may differ...

Of course, this is all theory....I took out a loan for the bar tab tonight.....

diddo
:glugglug

the indigo 10-17-2003 06:08 AM

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Originally posted by KRL



I've never understood the concept of wanting to retire.

How could anyone give up the thrill and rush of dealmaking and just go play golf and sit in the sun everyday.

I tried it with a more leisurely lifestyle of semi-retirement back in my 30's, going golfing everyday and couldn't deal with it at all. Sold my Pings and went back to the game of dealz.

I want to die while working, contributing, and being productive and not sitting in a lounge chair in Tahiti.

:1orglaugh

IMHO, it's because you don't like enough things in life.

I mean, I would go buy a Kart/F3000, race a few time a weeks, play computer gamers as a professional (traveling and trying to win prizes), open a bar, read books, write stuff, think, motorcycle, traveling, buy a boat, whatever man... bottom line is that Golf is just plain booooring :glugglug

FUCKuPAYme 10-17-2003 08:19 AM

i was just talking out my ass everyone who does this full time is a player.

when i reach 500 post here i will retire from gfy

:GFYBand

sweet7 10-17-2003 08:30 AM

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Originally posted by DrinkingHard
I thought the magic number was 50 million...

Gekko: I'm talking liquid. Enough money to have your own jet. Enough money not to waste time. Fifty, one hundred million dollars. A player.

DH

:thumbsup
http://images.forbes.com/images/2002/09/13/gordon.jpg

davidd 10-17-2003 08:44 AM

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Originally posted by DrinkingHard
I thought the magic number was 50 million...

Gekko: I'm talking liquid. Enough money to have your own jet. Enough money not to waste time. Fifty, one hundred million dollars. A player.

DH


He is 100% correct but based upon the time frame the statement was made, 100 mil minimum nowadays.

1mil isn't shit, once you get there you realize it isn't enough to retire on (living large).

10mil is nice, but again, you are in the minor leagues of millionaire status. You can impress your childhood friends, but you are not a big player.

I have hung out with the $100 mil to the $1 billion crowd (for those of you who watch HSN - hint) and when you have your own jets, yachts, houses worldwide, and 100 people+ on payroll that you have never met you have reached player status. These are the people who pull down millions a year just in interest.

49thParallel 10-17-2003 08:51 AM

And on the utter bullshit meter I give this thread a 10:thumbsup

slapass 10-17-2003 08:51 AM

Quiet,

2 mil in cash is not doing much for you. You should buy more real estate.
Trying to do that myself as interest rates just suck shit right now.

SleazyDream 10-17-2003 08:55 AM

quiet - does this mean you won't be retiring this month?

BradShaw 10-17-2003 10:46 AM

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Originally posted by Diamond Jim
20 active guys with 5 mil is too many...

Same old shit, Rog.....work work work...practicing my Wendy's drive-thru pitch.....I'm gonna sell Homestyle Chicken Strips like a motherfucker....

Nobody works harder than RB....he deserves everything he gets...


I would say 20 is close. $5million net worth is not much. Amazing how anytime $ comes up, Diamond Jim is telling us how poor he is;-) I almost feel sorry for the poor guy!

BradShaw 10-17-2003 10:49 AM

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Originally posted by Pornkings


Quiet you have a different model then sponsors.

for instants and I'm not bragging if I were to cash out now.
and stop putting money back into the company and not payout webmasters in less then a year I would have 10 mill in an acount no prob.

Do you know what I mean. But there is only a few who can do it cause most big guys already did one example babenet.

sometimes when a company goes out of business its not because they fucked up it's because they cashed out.


Roger, many of us "could" do the same thing, EXCEPT. CB issues, we need new transactions. Also, hard to have traffic coming in, if you are not outlaying any cash. I think the key is to find a good balance of taking $ out of the company, while still procuring your business long term.

Pornkings 10-17-2003 11:04 AM

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Originally posted by BradShaw



Roger, many of us "could" do the same thing, EXCEPT. CB issues, we need new transactions. Also, hard to have traffic coming in, if you are not outlaying any cash. I think the key is to find a good balance of taking $ out of the company, while still procuring your business long term.

I agree for the most part.

But there are ways to get around the CB issues and ride it out till the well runs dry

quiet 10-22-2003 02:01 AM

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Originally posted by davidd



He is 100% correct but based upon the time frame the statement was made, 100 mil minimum nowadays.

1mil isn't shit, once you get there you realize it isn't enough to retire on (living large).

10mil is nice, but again, you are in the minor leagues of millionaire status. You can impress your childhood friends, but you are not a big player.

I have hung out with the $100 mil to the $1 billion crowd (for those of you who watch HSN - hint) and when you have your own jets, yachts, houses worldwide, and 100 people+ on payroll that you have never met you have reached player status. These are the people who pull down millions a year just in interest.

you should post more often :)

Mutt 10-22-2003 02:26 AM

what was RB in People magazine for?

kmanrox 10-22-2003 02:30 AM

that's kind of a stupid question, especially since my sources tell me nobody in our industry does 10 million per month on their affiliate program for membership sites....


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