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Old 10-17-2003, 01:14 AM   #101
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Old 10-17-2003, 01:18 AM   #102
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In addition to supplying the military dictatorship of Chile with arms, the US also armed Osama bin Laden, Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, and hell - many countries in Central and South America and several in Asia.

These have proven over time to be an indictment of this "land of freedom" and "values" under "God". I can't see any sign of adopting some moral highground on *anything* - but of course, some will have "selective thinking".


PS Tho I am sure that being the majority arms trader in the world has assisted the US to gain it's questionable "power" and provided some cookies when thanking God for the food on the table.
Without correcting your half truths...I have repeatedly stated that the US government does what it has always done and that is to act in its own perceived best interest. If there are mistakes made (and there have been) then so be it. If there are unforseen and/or unfortunate consequences (and there have been) then so be it. The US has never worn a white hat...but does wear a gray hat...some such as yourself apparently believe the US wears a black hat and joins in the feelings of the muslim world that the US is the great Satan.

The US...because of its policies...domestic and foreign...has become the richest most powerful country the world has ever known. If you and others in the world do not like that...then so be it. It is something that you and others in the world have to live with...like it or not and all of your pissing and crying about it will not change it.
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I have repeatedly stated that the US government does what it has always done ... BLAH
Yes indeed.. this is one thing you have said many times and I agree with you.

It is a pity the US government does this since it causes much hardship and death to others in the process. There is no "achievement" of "credit" to the US in this behavior. Hence, it is a rogue state, fractionally better than any rogue state.

And.. please correct *any* half truths you find - I am willing to be corrected on any issue. But I noticed you avoid this... why???
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The US...because of its policies...domestic and foreign...has become the richest most powerful country the world has ever known. If you and others in the world do not like that...then so be it.
Shit.. got to waste time replying to that crap!

If that is the basis on which the US has "become the richest most powerful country the world", I would .

Sadly, I know this to be true since I have met a few now who know the benevolence of the US. Oddly, this has never been to their advantage. I can't understand why they think the US is greedy and arrogant - it might be because they have seen more than me tho.

Off to bed with ya and have a good full US breakfast in the morning and .. well.. just give a passing thought to those who are starving as a direct result of US messing.
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Yes indeed.. this is one thing you have said many times and I agree with you.

It is a pity the US government does this since it causes much hardship and death to others in the process. There is no "achievement" of "credit" to the US in this behavior. Hence, it is a rogue state, fractionally better than any rogue state.

And.. please correct *any* half truths you find - I am willing to be corrected on any issue. But I noticed you avoid this... why???
I do not condone...all that the US has done in the past...and I am sure that I will not condone all that it will do in the future. I have chosen not to become a political activist...so I have one role and only one role in the changing of my countries policies...should I disagree with a given policy...and that is as one man...one vote. I complain to my Congressman more frequently than his staff prefers...I am sure...I try to keep myself informed...and I excercise my power of the vote...city wise...county wise...state wise and national wise. Having said that...I would not choose to be any other than an American.

I have corrected so many half truths...or BS in so many threads that I am simply tired of repeating most of the same over and over...and it does not do any good anyhow...because haters are subjective...and have an agenda that will not be swayed. I on the other hand do not have an agenda other than to have as much objectivity as I can muster and try to defend against what are half truths...and total BS. Am I sometimes mistaken in my defense...yes...and readily admit it when it is pointed out to me.
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I have corrected so many half truths... BLAH
First... despite my "attitude", I am not a "hater". Tho I do despise total assholes and "greed merchants" who have no comprehension of anything other than that which affects their daily lives. Gas is at what price just now??

As for "half truths"... there are none in my post.

The content of the post is very widely known - and acknowledged by the US. There is nothing more to say, is there???

As for the Chile thing... that is just one example of many. The track record of the US is an embarassment to the world. There is nothing more to say about that either - unless you get to the level of denying that - kinda the same as the holocaust never happened.

And you use the term "hater".... sad.... that is the term they always use as some form of attack. Gimme a break!!
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THE US SOLD WEAPONARY TO IRAQ - Get it???

Forget your dual use shit and excuses
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and a whole bunch of anthrax and botulinum
There were many types of materials sold to Iraq by private enterprise that could be used for dual purpose. When the government eventually learned what was being sold to Iraq and some of the uses that Iraq was using the materials for...private enterprise was proscribed from certain sales...but even then a few companies continued to sell proscribed goods and some were punished for this.
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This is funny!!! This honorable government which supplied arms for profit, all of a sudden realises it may be providing "dual use" material????

Your "other enemy" - Iran, was being supplied with weapons within the last three years by your government.

Hell.. the arms fair in Iran was clogged up with US companies trying to sell arms. The organiser, when asked about this says, "If there is a profit in it, we can always rely on the US having stands here."

DUAL USE???? What ya talking about???
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THE US SOLD WEAPONARY TO IRAQ - Get it???

Forget your dual use shit and excuses
Name a single "weapon" that the US government...or private enterprise sold to Iraq. Helicopters were sold...but not as a weapon platform...some cluster bombs were sold...indirectly...and cluster bombs are a weapon...but even they were not sold on any large scale.

No tanks...no fighter aircraft...no artillary...no missiles...no small arms...so please name the "weapons".
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First... despite my "attitude", I am not a "hater". Tho I do despise total assholes and "greed merchants" who have no comprehension of anything other than that which affects their daily lives. Gas is at what price just now??

As for "half truths"... there are none in my post.

The content of the post is very widely known - and acknowledged by the US. There is nothing more to say, is there???

As for the Chile thing... that is just one example of many. The track record of the US is an embarassment to the world. There is nothing more to say about that either - unless you get to the level of denying that - kinda the same as the holocaust never happened.

And you use the term "hater".... sad.... that is the term they always use as some form of attack. Gimme a break!!
What is "sad"...is yours...and others...obsession with my country...and the daily hate filled "attack" on my country.
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Oh.. and I missed Israel off the list!!

You can thank them for more killings with your weaponary.

I find it odd there is an objection from the US to "suicide bombers", - can't understand this when you eat based on a substantial income from arms and "suicide bombers" resort to killing themselves and others because they do not have some of that fine weaponary.

Mmmm.. A nation of the righteous and under God.

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What is "sad"...is yours...and others...obsession with my country...and the daily hate filled "attack" on my country.
SAD!!!!

Was there some "half truth" in my post again???? If so, please don't hestitate to clear that up.... I'm all ears.

Sort your own back yard out and stop whining about the "they hate us" (Why????) and trying to defend some corrupt and greedy rogue regime. Get real and start with *some* facts

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Oh.. and I missed Israel off the list!!

You can thank them for more killings with your weaponary.

I find it odd there is an objection from the US to "suicide bombers", - can't understand this when you eat based on a substantial income from arms and "suicide bombers" resort to killing themselves and others because they do not have some of that fine weaponary.

Mmmm.. A nation of the righteous and under God.

Peace to ya.. I'm off!!
I see...you can not name a single weapon...as I expected. Half truths...BS and hatred of the US is all you are about.
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DUH???? Got to bed!!

You supply in the region of 7 BILLION alone in arms to Israel.. what the fuck does it matter what model of bombs you supply? Ask the Pentagon!
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DUH???? Got to bed!!

You supply in the region of 7 BILLION alone in arms to Israel.. what the fuck does it matter what model of bombs you supply? Ask the Pentagon!
FYI...Israel does not=Iraq. Webby that has an obession with...a hatred for...the US based upon half truths...BS and the fantasy world of Webby Land.

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I just read all of these posts. They are all basically trying to reason with the unreasonable.

The moral of my story is: If you live in a nation of freedom, be grateful instead of pointing out the negative about it. Our generations are spoiled, greedy and selfish. Most of us do not know what TRUE sacrifice and injustice is.

I am sick of hearing people bitch and look for conspiracies and harp on every minor detail. If Bush wasn't in office, they'd be bitching about someone else. People are sickening with their ability to ridicule every little thing, yet completely ignore the positive in anything. Yeah things could be better in the US but hell, look around you, they could be a lot worse. Be thankful for what you DO have, instead of always trying to perfect something that is only to your selfish desires.

Countries complaining about what the US does or doesn't do. Fuck you! Lets talk about what some place like Colombia does and doesn't do. For Christ sakes, how dare anybody compare Bush to Hitler.

Bitch bitch bitch... like a bunch of cackling hens. Every country and leader has faults, but not every country has all the greatness America has. Just be thankful for a MOMENT.

Blame Bush for the economy. Sure ok. Every President blows money on shit we don't need. But some just replace it with higher taxes. No administration creates jobs. Unless they are hiring janitors in the White House, the ecomony relies on America's corporation. You want to sit on your ass and bitch about the economy? Go to Congress and lobby to outlaw the major corporations sending work across the oceans. Major corporations line the pockets of EVERY President and every political party. They are ALL guilty. Fuckin fight to keep jobs in this country and hold the right people responsible, the CEOs that fuck over the innocent investors. BLAME THEM and if you want jobs in the US, fight for them. I don't see anyone boycotting companies that hurt this economy, yet want to impeach the President. I guess it's easier to blame someone else for your mistakes.

Want the US economy to get better? Do something about it, instead of just bitching or shut the fuck up. http://www.ameritrade.com ...Take the link with you.

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DUH???? Got to bed!!

You supply in the region of 7 BILLION alone in arms to Israel.. what the fuck does it matter what model of bombs you supply? Ask the Pentagon!
Israel is an ally...and there is a reason (sinister as it is) we keep them well armed and have allowed them to develop...if not actually supplied them with Nukes.
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Ah...I can retire from the field now. Furious_Female is here.
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lol Just think of me as the UN. You took care of it yourself, I'm just here to take the credit in the end.
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? you would want to be represented THAT poorly?
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Even internet pussy does strange things to a man.

Dont sell yourself out man. Esp to Ann Coulter with down syndrome.
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Dont sell yourself out man. Esp to Ann Coulter with down syndrome.
Shut the fuck up LabRat or whatever your alias is.

No one asked for comments from the inbred section.
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Dont sell yourself out man. Esp to Ann Coulter with down syndrome.
How are the classes going [Labret]? If you recall my brother would have his Masters completed this December...but he dropped his classes. He started up with his business and between it and a full time job at the college...in addition two hours per day commute time...in addition instructing 3 hours per week...he saw that he was just to overloaded. The sad part is that the classes he needs to complete will not be available again until next fall. I had told him that he should not open the business until after December...but he is his own man.
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So far so good. Trying my hardest to 4.0 it this semester, trying to offset the damage I did fucking off the first couple years. I feel his pain. Although instead of dropping school I just quit working as much. Now my biggest pain is getting my ass up by 8:30 am, which kills me. Spent the last 6 years living with no schedule and having one now is tough.
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No one asked for comments from the inbred section.
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(I see this would be an enormous disadvantage to the UN to see the US leave the club - all these millions that US pays!!!

What military arm??? Excuse me!! Other nations actually have troops under UN control in many parts of the world - I never actually seen many US troops tho

Ability to mobilize eh??? Ah.. Yea.. the UN is noted for it's rapid US troop mobilizations!! Pity there ain't any of em there tho!!

GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT BEFORE YOU OPEN YOUR MOUTH

Go to bed King... you ARE in a comma already!

In fact... too funny!!!!!!!!!)

I have never seen the UN rapidly deploy anything at all, and the Military Presence of all but a small handful of Member Nations is only Symbolic in Nature......so if you come from one of the Countries deploying troops in numbers greater than....say....10 I might be inclined to listen to you, otherwise you should STFU because your country means SHIT to the UN and will not ever make a difference in the problems at hand that we all face.
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(I see this would be an enormous disadvantage to the UN to see the US leave the club - all these millions that US pays!!!

What military arm??? Excuse me!! Other nations actually have troops under UN control in many parts of the world - I never actually seen many US troops tho

Ability to mobilize eh??? Ah.. Yea.. the UN is noted for it's rapid US troop mobilizations!! Pity there ain't any of em there tho!!

GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT BEFORE YOU OPEN YOUR MOUTH

Go to bed King... you ARE in a comma already!

In fact... too funny!!!!!!!!!)

I have never seen the UN rapidly deploy anything at all, and the Military Presence of all but a small handful of Member Nations is only Symbolic in Nature......so if you come from one of the Countries deploying troops in numbers greater than....say....10 I might be inclined to listen to you, otherwise you should STFU because your country means SHIT to the UN and will not ever make a difference in the problems at hand that we all face.
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eh.. im sorry if its difficult for you. Naturally a country with the size and economy the US have will contribute more to the UN than a small european country for example, or do you expect denmark to pay the same amount the US do with their 4 million citizens?
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Old 10-17-2003, 10:19 AM   #134
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eh.. im sorry if its difficult for you. Naturally a country with the size and economy the US have will contribute more to the UN than a small european country for example, or do you expect denmark to pay the same amount the US do with their 4 million citizens?
Thank you very much for educating me...I needed that.
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Old 10-17-2003, 06:08 PM   #135
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I have never seen the UN rapidly deploy anything at all, and the Military Presence of all but a small handful of Member Nations is only Symbolic in Nature......so if you come from one of the Countries deploying troops in numbers greater than....say....10 I might be inclined to listen to you, otherwise you should STFU because your country means SHIT to the UN and will not ever make a difference in the problems at hand that we all face.
Tis hardly worth the effort replying... all I can say is it is clear you are totally unaware of UN activity - tho gotta say it does not get much coverage on Fox, so I would not expect you to know.

And yes, I do come from a country that deploys considerably more troops at UN disposal than the US, (which is zero), and "my country" does not seem to mean shit at the UN either since is holds a veto powers there. Again, all that is irrelevant since you ain't got a clue anyway.

But hell.. I don't give a shit what you think anyway, since it is garbage.
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Old 10-17-2003, 07:12 PM   #136
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GFY is not the world...but there are posters from all around the world...and I was one of two or three that got it right. Most said there would be years of urban fighting...with thousands and thousands of American soldiers being killed in the urban fighting. I said there would be little...if any urban fighting...and what urban fighting there would be...would not be the type of urban fighting of old.

Well good for you! Now......let's make you...............

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