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Old 10-14-2003, 01:35 PM   #1
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Trader Joe's Two Buck Chuck???

Does anyone know the real story of the Charles Shaw Vineyard blowout at Trader Joe's....

I was told the bottles before the vineyard purchase had an asking price of up to $30.00

I had some over the weekend and I am not a wine snob..... but for $1.99 a bottle it tasted pretty damn good.

I am sure the wine experts will beg to differ..... but for a Corona and New Castle guy the Two buck Chuck was good enough.
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I read about it, anyone willing to send me a case to try?

No Trader Joes here...
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Old 10-14-2003, 01:40 PM   #3
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i don't know the story, but 2 buck Chuck is really good.
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I tried that stuff a while back. Tastes the about same to me at $8 wine. Except that I don't drink $8 wine.
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For Sure.....it was $24.99 for a case had a little gig in La Quinta over the weekend and we forgot the wine...walked into TJ's and just said Fuck it and grabbed a case....we even had compliments
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Old 10-14-2003, 01:44 PM   #6
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I tried that stuff a while back. Tastes the about same to me at $8 wine. Except that I don't drink $8 wine.

I am not a big wine guy..... but the wine snobs reluctantly said it was passable.

I guess they are having a hard time keeping it in stock.

I do prefer a Cambria vineyard Wild Horse Merlot.....


lol.......that may be the most ridiculous thing I have ever said.....it is a good merlot though
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I heard it had somehting to with the estimated worth of the winery. He was in a divorce or somehitng. So he just basically gave it away. That was from and old lady paying for a case at the local Trader Joes.....who knows !?
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Except that I don't drink $8 wine.
What does a bottle of Boonesfarm go for these days?
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I heard it had somehting to with the estimated worth of the winery. He was in a divorce or somehitng. So he just basically gave it away. That was from and old lady paying for a case at the local Trader Joes.....who knows !?
SCJ....

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What does a bottle of Boonesfarm go for these days?
couple of bucks

I have never had Boones Farm out of a glass

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I'm a former TJs employee with many remaining contacts. There are many rumors about Charles Shaw wine (divorce settlement, bankrupties, etc), but none are true. The real story is that there's a huge glut in CA wine production. The producer simply reached an agreement to sell vast amounts of product at an incredible price. It is a buyers market, and especially good for someone like TJ's that buys with cash in advance. It's not a once time buyout, but a continuing relationship with a producer with huge acreage (at least for the near future). At $1.99, TJs is making about .50 cents a bottle in profit. They have gained even more in publicity and new customers. There was a recent vintage turnover, and the new year isn't quite as good as the original two buck chuck. Still, it's easily a $10-15 bottle of wine.
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Old 10-14-2003, 01:55 PM   #12
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I'm a former TJs employee with many remaining contacts. There are many rumors about Charles Shaw wine (divorce settlement, bankrupties, etc), but none are true. The real story is that there's a huge glut in CA wine production. The producer simply reached an agreement to sell vast amounts of product at an incredible price. It is a buyers market, and especially good for someone like TJ's that buys with cash in advance. It's not a once time buyout, but a continuing relationship with a producer with huge acreage (at least for the near future). At $1.99, TJs is making about .50 cents a bottle in profit. They have gained even more in publicity and new customers. There was a recent vintage turnover, and the new year isn't quite as good as the original two buck chuck. Still, it's easily a $10-15 bottle of wine.
Is this Charles Shaw????


LOl.....Hey Thanks!!

That is very interesting and will definately be passed on.
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I haven't tried it yet, every time I try to go to TJ's to get stuff, there's always an AJ's or a wine store in the way and I never make it...
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I haven't tried it yet, every time I try to go to TJ's to get stuff, there's always an AJ's or a wine store in the way and I never make it...
KK it truly is not bad.....we thought it would taste terrible and I was shocked that the taste was good enough to keep boozing it all night....

IF you are looking to spend an evening in a bubble bath with some van Morrison playing...Two Buck Chuck can accomplish the goal.....

and if you need help....

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i'll have to try it, nothing to lose
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KK it truly is not bad.....we thought it would taste terrible and I was shocked that the taste was good enough to keep boozing it all night....

IF you are looking to spend an evening in a bubble bath with some van Morrison playing...Two Buck Chuck can accomplish the goal.....

and if you need help....

....you know where to find help
My hot tub is leaking, I do need help ;)
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Bottle of Two Buck Chuck......$1.99

Calk and calk gun..................$15.99

pulling out another glass.......priceless


how you been....been busy????
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Jim.............Ducks look un organized and not very practiced right now. We seem to be skating on snow shoes, can't handle passes , can't keep anyone off of Giggy... So basically we look terrible.
Thanks for asking............
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Jim.............Ducks look un organized and not very practiced right now. We seem to be skating on snow shoes, can't handle passes , can't keep anyone off of Giggy... So basically we look terrible.
Thanks for asking............
not too late to buy a Colorade Jersey

btw....you did know Detroit started off with a 2-0 start

just want to keep youy in the loop bro
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Does it come in a bottle or a box?
This is real wine, believe it or not.



More Info About Charles Shaw Wines
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not too late to buy a Colorade Jersey

btw....you did know Detroit started off with a 2-0 start

just want to keep youy in the loop bro
go wings
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I'm a former TJs employee with many remaining contacts. There are many rumors about Charles Shaw wine (divorce settlement, bankrupties, etc), but none are true. The real story is that there's a huge glut in CA wine production. The producer simply reached an agreement to sell vast amounts of product at an incredible price. It is a buyers market, and especially good for someone like TJ's that buys with cash in advance. It's not a once time buyout, but a continuing relationship with a producer with huge acreage (at least for the near future). At $1.99, TJs is making about .50 cents a bottle in profit. They have gained even more in publicity and new customers. There was a recent vintage turnover, and the new year isn't quite as good as the original two buck chuck. Still, it's easily a $10-15 bottle of wine.
I wonder if J $tyles had anything to do with this WINE BLOWOUT!
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ahhah, sorry bro, i'm a midwest raised kid, gotta stick with the good teams. Not ones named after a silly movie
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New Team out of Kissimmeee

The Nemos

North Hollywood has a developer right now who is near approval for a 9000 person arena that will host a semi pro hockey team

kind of like the gulls for the valley

reminds me....must go to gulls game and booze...

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Jim,

The Chardonnay beat out a $70 bottle in a taste test comparison in wine spectator.

The red is not as good but then again for $2 how can u go wrong.
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when a thread gets started about *cheap* wine, you know the industry has bottomed out.
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Jim,

The Chardonnay beat out a $70 bottle in a taste test comparison in wine spectator.

The red is not as good but then again for $2 how can u go wrong.
The red was up against a bottle of Rodney Strong....not one person picked the Rodney EVERYONE went for the Chuck.

I am telling you we had a blast taste tasting the Chuck

a 1997 BV did beat it out though everytime

went Golfing in La Quinta this weekend for the golfers WOW!

houses right on the fairway..... so nice
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when a thread gets started about *cheap* wine, you know the industry has bottomed out.
This Charles Shaw is the buzz wine topic of the month...I think we are safe for the future

My next thread will be......


used Hyundai's piece of shit or thrifty jewel???
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One of the morning shows tested it and most liked it better than the expensive stuff.

I wish they'd sell it here.
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It's not good wine by any means, that shit we had was horrible. Maybe we got a bad batch or something, but I couldn't stand the taste and I can usually drink wine. I still have two bottles sitting downstairs....
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there are Hundreds of verry good solid wines for under 15 bucks

alot of them under 10

Ive turned alot of people on to really good finds



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there are Hundreds of verry good solid wines for under 15 bucks

alot of them under 10

Ive turned alot of people on to really good finds



List them!!!!

your top ten red
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I dunno about two buck chuck...but I do know that trader joe's is my favorite spot to buy wines...they've got some amazing australian wines there...which are my current fav's.
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I've heard about 2 buck Chuck before as well. I only drink wine occassionally, but 2 dollars does sound like ripple indeed. At some liquor stores, the ghetto wines like night train, thunderbird, etc... are some times more than 2 dollars.

Oh wells, whats good is good. Price is not always exactly connected to quality. Sometimes you get more than what you pay for just as much as you can get less.
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I am good friends with one of the very top buyers and the in-house councel at TJ's. I will ask and post the straight dope.
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I am good friends with one of the very top buyers and the in-house councel at TJ's. I will ask and post the straight dope.
Cool!

I love to punch holes in urban myth's

make sure you post it

The best one I heard is that it was a divorce and the Charles Shaw Heir decided to give it to trader Joe's for on the dollar....
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So there is the real story.......

Thanks that is the kind of useless trivia I live for....and I am being 100% serious I am a useless information junkie
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Charles Shaw rocks!

I had one bottle per day.

I think it's a win-win deal between TJ's and Charles Shaw. I always buy some other pricy (supposedly organic) stuff in addition to a case of charles shaw.
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This Charles Shaw is the buzz wine topic of the month...I think we are safe for the future

My next thread will be......


used Hyundai's piece of shit or thrifty jewel???
TJs has been selling the $1.99 Shaws for well over a year now. Last year, they sold about $90 million worth of the Shaw wines. The 300,000+ case/year pace should keep going as long as the wine glut continues and the quality stays high.

And yes, the newer Hyundais are a thrifty jewel.
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List them!!!!

your top ten red
freeme was me under my old name

top ten in no particular order

Parducci Cab/Merlot and Zin

Toasted head Merlot

Gallo of Sonoma Cabernet

San Fabiano 1999 Chianti or '00

De Loach 1999 California Zinfandel

Jacobs Creek Shiraz

Robert Mondavi Woodbridge Cabernet Sauvignon

Concha Y Toro Casillero del Diablo Cabernet Sauvignon

Fetzer Barrel Select Zinfandel

Ridge Sonoma County Zinfandel

Healdsburg Viticultural Society Mourvedre

Ferrari-Carano Cabernet Sauvignon

Just a few from my short list

If you drink any Please let me know what you think

Serge, LL, MikeW and I get together every couple months for a differnt sampling over dinner.

Mike just finished his cellar. Maybe i can get him to post the picks




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Bottle of Two Buck Chuck......$1.99

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pulling out another glass.......priceless


how you been....been busy????
LOL!!!

Busy, yeah. And gone all the time it seems. Out to LA later in the week and straight to Van from there...
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LOL!!!

Busy, yeah. And gone all the time it seems. Out to LA later in the week and straight to Van from there...
maybe you can pop in for lunch with Tony and I ?????



Awesome list I just printed it it is my new you can fancy wine guy on a reasonable budget list.....

Oh and 12 clicks.....cheap wine comes with a cap that screws on

good wine comes at a good price with a good taste....not that our Two Buck Chuck hits that note....but close

If I cannot tell the difference between $30 and $300...Im putting the other $270.00 on the table
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Awesome list I just printed it it is my new you can fancy wine guy on a reasonable budget list.....

Oh and 12 clicks.....cheap wine comes with a cap that screws on

good wine comes at a good price with a good taste....not that our Two Buck Chuck hits that note....but close

If I cannot tell the difference between $30 and $300...Im putting the other $270.00 on the table
There are several TOP wine producers in Napa coming out with screw tops i hear

No shit...they have done studies and no difference

and with the shortage of cork many have gone to the hard plastic "corks"
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There are several TOP wine producers in Napa coming out with screw tops i hear

No shit...they have done studies and no difference

and with the shortage of cork many have gone to the hard plastic "corks"
I cannot imagine the screw top catching on.......not doubting that focus groups...and millions have been spent on consumer adoption...I just cannot see the snootybergs having a screw on bottle with dinner
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Old 10-14-2003, 07:44 PM   #50
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Hey lens is that from Sav-on...we have one right down the street I may go grab a bottle on the way home.......

I tell you what you.... fed ex that one and I will fed ex you a whole case of two buck chuck

I had an idea....it would be fun to have a small wine tasting event for the gig in Nov in Santa Monica....Hmmmm has me thinking

some nice hor D'vors....some nice cigars.....Martinis

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