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Doctor Dre · 10-14-2003, 11:31 PM

Whoever bid the most here and send it to fight the patent get my sig space for a month . well I hope some1 is interested and I can do a little in this . In exchange I guarantee 10 posts a day average during the period . :P

Current Bid : 50 $ from Mike AI (If I can edit this post later. .. I hope)

Jimbo · 10-14-2003, 11:37 PM

lovefucking · 10-14-2003, 11:39 PM

i want to sale hot cards that you can see porn free
put this ad on dumb ass

Seb From Holland · 10-14-2003, 11:39 PM

It doesn't work that way bro. You donate the money you get from the auction to FightThePatent instead of the winner linking to their Website. Or was that what you meant?

Doctor Dre · 10-14-2003, 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Seb From Holland
It doesn't work that way bro. You donate the money you get from the auction to FightThePatent instead of the winner linking to their Website. Or was that what you meant?

No the winner send money to fightthepatent (dosen't matter if it's 20 $ or whatever) and I give them my sig space for a month

Mike AI · 10-14-2003, 11:46 PM

Seb From Holland · 10-14-2003, 11:46 PM

Oh ok, I thought they had to put up a link to FightThePatent as well. Good luck with the auction, *bump*!

Doctor Dre · 10-14-2003, 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mike AI
$50

Good that's a start ... I'l close tomorow when I come back from work :P

Thanx

Doctor Dre · 10-15-2003, 12:23 AM

Anyways out to sleep we'll see what happen tomorow

Bladewire · 10-15-2003, 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mike AI
$50

Thanks Mike!

Doctor Dre · 10-15-2003, 11:09 AM

No1 else ?

Ross · 10-15-2003, 11:17 AM

That's a nice gesture

Doctor Dre · 10-15-2003, 05:35 PM

Last call

Sly_RJ · 10-15-2003, 05:41 PM

$60. And I'll be using your sig to link to IMPAI and Fight the Patent.

tootie · 10-15-2003, 05:42 PM

I wish I had it to give this week. But I'll help keep this bumped in case there are any last minute bids.

chemicaleyes · 10-15-2003, 05:48 PM

funkmaster · 10-15-2003, 05:51 PM

I'd rather put my money on some more ACTG shares !!!

tootie · 10-15-2003, 06:01 PM

Sly_RJ · 10-15-2003, 06:04 PM

This is really pretty fucking pathetic. Nobody can touch $60? Jesus Christ. Everyone wants something done but isn't willing to pitch in a buck or two to make the cause possible.

I see people throwing $60 at a bar all the time.

tootie · 10-15-2003, 06:19 PM

Doctor Dre · 10-15-2003, 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ
This is really pretty fucking pathetic. Nobody can touch $60? Jesus Christ. Everyone wants something done but isn't willing to pitch in a buck or two to make the cause possible.

I see people throwing $60 at a bar all the time.

I drink WAY more than 60 $

Jer · 10-16-2003, 04:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Doctor Dre

I drink WAY more than 60 $

bar whore!

Doctor Dre · 10-16-2003, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jer

bar whore!

Nah I get free booze at most places ... :P

Anyways Mike contact me please no one seem to be willing to give more .

FightThisPatent · 10-16-2003, 10:55 AM

Doctor Dre,

I appreciate your efforts to support FTPF as well as those that bid, and of course, the bid winner.

I am not accepting money at this time, just pledges, so the winner can make their pledge at http://www.FightThePatent.com/pledge and I can verify it via a posting here (or privately).

I posted this in Squirt's thread.. and reposting here because it goes to show why Acacia's and the MANY other patent holders attempts at "convincing" companies to license their patent, is the new way of business in the Adult industry and why there needs to be organizations designed to specifically target these patent abuse cases..

I found this quote in a patent email-list that i subscribe to:

-------------------
If society allows patents in areas where cumulative innovation is the dominant mode of innovation, then new innovators end up carying the weight of the giants instead. This is because they need to license prior innovations before marketing their own innovation, and that expense grows exponentially with innovation generation for complex products.

(this is so simple you could put it on a T-shirt ;*)

See "Standing on the Shoulders of Giants: Cumulative Research and the
Patent Law", J. Economic Perspectives, Vol 5, winter 1991, p. 27-41
http://socrates.berkeley.edu/~scotch/giants.pdf

---------------------------

This is my reply, reposted here for your reading:

This is so true of Acacia Research's 2nd round of wielding a patent claim... first round with V-Chip, they got knocked down, but that was before they got companies to spend MILLIONS of dollars on "licensing their patent".

Round 2 is where they are making the broad claim to owning the process to downloading of audio or video from a website.

Acacia's attorneys cite that 150+ other patents reference their patent, as if that was some form of validation for the patent... more like the other patent holders citing all possible prior art as required by USPTO.

But Acacia's patent claims are like claiming to have a patent on a ball. Others may have a patent on a red ball. In this example, Acacia won't sue the patent of a red ball, but will sue not only the manufacturer of the red ball for patent infringement, but also the toy store that carries the red ball, for contributory infringement.

Patent Law allows them to do this... this is clearly patent abuse.

In real terms, Acacia is suing websites that have audio or video on their website.. they have yet to target companies like Microsoft, Real, or Apple for infringement.. these targets would fight back and tie them up on court. Based upon their failed V-chip patent, but successful licensing campaign, it seems to be the business model to throw a patent and some infringement letters at comanies who use the "alleged infringed patent" to "convince" them to license their patents.. using things like an "amnesty" cut-off date, where retroactive infringement fees could be accessed.

Most websites don't have the money to pay $10k-$35k to do the initial legal dance, so they have no choice but to license the patent. The kicker here, is that in the event the patent is invalidated by companies who do challenge the patent, they DON"T GET THEIR MONEY back from the license.

This kind of stuff really gets to me, that's why I started FightThePatent.com and my hopes to extend that work to Fight the Patent Foundation.

This is the new, new,new, new economy with the new kind of business plan. Get patents, get people to license the patents and bet that most won't be able to fight it, and will just settle. For those that do fight it, it gets stuck in court for years, but in the mean time, they collect licensing fees and continue to "convince" companies to license the patent.

This is wrong!

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Sly_RJ Live Hard - Die Hard Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Ready to leave... Posts: 17,042	This is really pretty fucking pathetic. Nobody can touch $60? Jesus Christ. Everyone wants something done but isn't willing to pitch in a buck or two to make the cause possible. I see people throwing $60 at a bar all the time. __________________ PHAT SERVERS - Quality dedicated hosting at a quality price! sly AT phatservers DOT com - 147479144

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FightThisPatent Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 4,090	Doctor Dre, I appreciate your efforts to support FTPF as well as those that bid, and of course, the bid winner. I am not accepting money at this time, just pledges, so the winner can make their pledge at http://www.FightThePatent.com/pledge and I can verify it via a posting here (or privately). I posted this in Squirt's thread.. and reposting here because it goes to show why Acacia's and the MANY other patent holders attempts at "convincing" companies to license their patent, is the new way of business in the Adult industry and why there needs to be organizations designed to specifically target these patent abuse cases.. I found this quote in a patent email-list that i subscribe to: ------------------- If society allows patents in areas where cumulative innovation is the dominant mode of innovation, then new innovators end up carying the weight of the giants instead. This is because they need to license prior innovations before marketing their own innovation, and that expense grows exponentially with innovation generation for complex products. (this is so simple you could put it on a T-shirt ;*) See "Standing on the Shoulders of Giants: Cumulative Research and the Patent Law", J. Economic Perspectives, Vol 5, winter 1991, p. 27-41 http://socrates.berkeley.edu/~scotch/giants.pdf --------------------------- This is my reply, reposted here for your reading: This is so true of Acacia Research's 2nd round of wielding a patent claim... first round with V-Chip, they got knocked down, but that was before they got companies to spend MILLIONS of dollars on "licensing their patent". Round 2 is where they are making the broad claim to owning the process to downloading of audio or video from a website. Acacia's attorneys cite that 150+ other patents reference their patent, as if that was some form of validation for the patent... more like the other patent holders citing all possible prior art as required by USPTO. But Acacia's patent claims are like claiming to have a patent on a ball. Others may have a patent on a red ball. In this example, Acacia won't sue the patent of a red ball, but will sue not only the manufacturer of the red ball for patent infringement, but also the toy store that carries the red ball, for contributory infringement. Patent Law allows them to do this... this is clearly patent abuse. In real terms, Acacia is suing websites that have audio or video on their website.. they have yet to target companies like Microsoft, Real, or Apple for infringement.. these targets would fight back and tie them up on court. Based upon their failed V-chip patent, but successful licensing campaign, it seems to be the business model to throw a patent and some infringement letters at comanies who use the "alleged infringed patent" to "convince" them to license their patents.. using things like an "amnesty" cut-off date, where retroactive infringement fees could be accessed. Most websites don't have the money to pay $10k-$35k to do the initial legal dance, so they have no choice but to license the patent. The kicker here, is that in the event the patent is invalidated by companies who do challenge the patent, they DON"T GET THEIR MONEY back from the license. This kind of stuff really gets to me, that's why I started FightThePatent.com and my hopes to extend that work to Fight the Patent Foundation. This is the new, new,new, new economy with the new kind of business plan. Get patents, get people to license the patents and bet that most won't be able to fight it, and will just settle. For those that do fight it, it gets stuck in court for years, but in the mean time, they collect licensing fees and continue to "convince" companies to license the patent. This is wrong! __________________ http://www.t3report.com (where's the traffic?) v5.0 is out! \| http://www.FightThePatent.com \| ICQ 52741957