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Old 10-14-2003, 10:28 AM   #1
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Sadam, Osama why havent we got em yet?

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NSA have ability to watch me from satellites taking a piss but we cant seem to finf these fuckers?
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Old 10-14-2003, 10:29 AM   #2
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Old 10-14-2003, 10:29 AM   #3
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Because they havent been link hotten people?
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Old 10-14-2003, 10:30 AM   #4
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There can be no peace without the threat of war !
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Old 10-14-2003, 10:32 AM   #5
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There can be no peace without the threat of war !
There will always be terrorism , no peace in middle east everrrrrr

War or not we just gotta deal with it
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Old 10-14-2003, 10:32 AM   #6
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If they have been captured, or are captured in the future, the probability is that we will never hear about it. The last thing we need is a bunch of angry brown tards threatening to blow themselves up and taking innocents with them unless Osama is released.

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Old 10-14-2003, 10:33 AM   #7
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Because if we did, the govt. would have no reason to impinge on our privacy and free speech in the name of anti-terrorism. Bush can't pretend to be saving the world from evil if he catches the bad guys
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Because if we did, the govt. would have no reason to impinge on our privacy and free speech in the name of anti-terrorism. Bush can't pretend to be saving the world from evil if he catches the bad guys
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Old 10-14-2003, 10:52 AM   #12
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Because if we did, the govt. would have no reason to impinge on our privacy and free speech in the name of anti-terrorism. Bush can't pretend to be saving the world from evil if he catches the bad guys
Exactly what I would have written....

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Old 10-14-2003, 11:37 AM   #14
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Both of them have access to billions of dollars.

With those types of resources you can deploy elaborate evasion techniques.

Saddam was a hardcore worst case scenario planner with backup upon backup of deeply hidden bunkers and safe houses all over Iraq. This is a guy who trusted only a single handful of people so there are a limited number of people who really know everything who can spill the beans on where he might be.

He has mastered the art of staying alive and in power for decades. He spent hundreds of millions of dollars paying off people ahead of time who would need to be in place to protect him in the event the US invaded the entire country and he had to operate entirely underground. Everything he would need was prepositioned.

I think eventually though by a chance of fate and luck the military will nail him. The question is does the US really want to? Its not in the interest of the folks in the military industrial complex to see this come to a quick ending. They thrive and make profits from chaos and I doubt they want to see this become a peaceful country anytime soon. You don't make money selling weapons, ammo, parts, planes, etc. if countries are getting along.

Osama, though not as wealthy as Saddam, has a tremendous network of extremely wealthy Islamic anti-american supporters. So even though he is on the run clearly, the area where he is supposedly nailed down in now is extremely hostile and virtually impossible to effectively search.

And again, the powers that be don't want people feeling all secure and cozy. They want and need a bad guy to be out there to justify everything they are spending money on and doing to erode our freedoms in the name of a more secure homeland.

So I seriously doubt we'll be seeing either captured anytime soon.
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I'll put my money down that one or the other will be found as well as some "WMDs" a month or two before the next election.
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Old 10-14-2003, 11:54 AM   #18
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Both of them have access to billions of dollars.

With those types of resources you can deploy elaborate evasion techniques.

Saddam was a hardcore worst case scenario planner with backup upon backup of deeply hidden bunkers and safe houses all over Iraq. This is a guy who trusted only a single handful of people so there are a limited number of people who really know everything who can spill the beans on where he might be.

He has mastered the art of staying alive and in power for decades. He spent hundreds of millions of dollars paying off people ahead of time who would need to be in place to protect him in the event the US invaded the entire country and he had to operate entirely underground. Everything he would need was prepositioned.

I think eventually though by a chance of fate and luck the military will nail him. The question is does the US really want to? Its not in the interest of the folks in the military industrial complex to see this come to a quick ending. They thrive and make profits from chaos and I doubt they want to see this become a peaceful country anytime soon. You don't make money selling weapons, ammo, parts, planes, etc. if countries are getting along.

Osama, though not as wealthy as Saddam, has a tremendous network of extremely wealthy Islamic anti-american supporters. So even though he is on the run clearly, the area where he is supposedly nailed down in now is extremely hostile and virtually impossible to effectively search.

And again, the powers that be don't want people feeling all secure and cozy. They want and need a bad guy to be out there to justify everything they are spending money on and doing to erode our freedoms in the name of a more secure homeland.

So I seriously doubt we'll be seeing either captured anytime soon.
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Old 10-14-2003, 11:55 AM   #19
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Because if we did, the govt. would have no reason to impinge on our privacy and free speech in the name of anti-terrorism. Bush can't pretend to be saving the world from evil if he catches the bad guys
That is exactly what my post above means.
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They haven't been captured because we are looking for people that aren't a common US criminal. Like it was mentioned before, Saddam has billions of dollars and bin Laden has millions. That type of money can go centuries in many countries around the world, especially poor ones.

Anything and anyone can be bought. Everyone has their price. The prices of the ones protecting and helping Saddam and Osama just happen to be a lot cheaper and in some cases free, because they aide them out of fear and/or religious brainwashing.

We're looking for needles in haystacks. It's not like on America's Most Wanted where the suspect has 10 tattoos and height/weight/hair color/eye color/race that differenciate them from the rest of society. We're talking about guys that purposely blend in with their surroundings, have hired look alikes and are roaming around rough terain.

From the beginning, it was said that it will take time. I wouldn't expect someone like Osama, who had the resources to mastermind something to magnitude of 9/11 to be caught easily.

Where is Jimmy Hoffa?

The truth always comes out in the wash. Justice is sometimes slow but I believe ultimately, Osama will be captured or found dead. Saddam has more power and influence, I'm waiting for him to surface in North Korea. Saddam's sons were too confident and complacent. When Saddam is found, he will be at the end of his moves, it won't happen because he made stupid mistakes. Osama will make stupid mistakes, because of lack of technology and resources at his disposal. Saddam is probably in cushy bunkers, Osama is in caves, running out of places to hide.

It will come... I predict Osama by next spring.
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Osama probably has it better than Saddam. People forget that Osama has access to $30 million of the bin Laden family money and they were still supporting him at the time 9/11 happened. Members of his family who are friendly with the Bush family, the Saudi royal family and pretty much all the other big families in the international crime syndicate we call a global economy were seen in videos with him 6 months before 9/11 happened.

The bin Laden family has the protection of the USA and and Osama has the protection of the bin Laden family. Plus, he's been on dialysis for quite some time. If he had just been cave hopping I doubt he'd have been able to stay alive so long.

Saddam, on the other hand is probably the one hiding in a cave somewhere. People forget that the muslim world(especially the terrorists) hate Saddam. Without his party he's nothing. He can't go hide with Al-Qaeda or anything like that because they all want to kill him for committing genocide against Shia Muslims.
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Osama probably has it better than Saddam. People forget that Osama has access to $30 million of the bin Laden family money and they were still supporting him at the time 9/11 happened. Members of his family who are friendly with the Bush family, the Saudi royal family and pretty much all the other big families in the international crime syndicate we call a global economy were seen in videos with him 6 months before 9/11 happened.

The bin Laden family has the protection of the USA and and Osama has the protection of the bin Laden family. Plus, he's been on dialysis for quite some time. If he had just been cave hopping I doubt he'd have been able to stay alive so long.

Saddam, on the other hand is probably the one hiding in a cave somewhere. People forget that the muslim world(especially the terrorists) hate Saddam. Without his party he's nothing. He can't go hide with Al-Qaeda or anything like that because they all want to kill him for committing genocide against Shia Muslims.
I disagree with you. Saddam has prepared for this years ago. He already has "pimped out" hiding places. It's not like he's saying SHIT where am I going to go?? He's been ready for this for a long time. I don't feel Saddam is in any type of cave amenities. He may not have the people power or following that Osama has, but that was a strategic move on his part. He chose to keep the people that are part of his plan to a minimal.

I don't believe for a second Osama is living in better conditions than Saddam. Osama is the rough and rugged battle type, Saddam is the hand feed me grapes type. Big difference.
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BINGO!..........................What do we have for him Jhonnie?
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If we find and kill them then the Us Government needs to come up with new people for the US people to fear...to much work for them
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Any thoughts?

NSA have ability to watch me from satellites taking a piss but we cant seem to finf these fuckers?
Because they don't exist.
They are both figments of george Bush's imagination.

Its all hype and the US people have been conned.
I live in Iraq and I have never heard of Saddan Hussein .
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"Saddam" doesn't exist anymore. Plastic surgery can do a lot for people with almost unlimited amounts of money, and since he isn't a fool he'll have anticipated something like this happening. I doubt he'll ever be found, and even if he's found, I don't think it'll really be him. Only thing that might happen is someone close to him ratting him out.
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BINGO!..........................What do we have for him Jhonnie?
I'll just take one of those pork barrel contracts Bushie & Co. are giving out to their cronies in the "rebuilding" effort.
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