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RedBumper 10-15-2003 04:28 AM

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Originally posted by rowan


The landing gear is down, but the wheel assembly tilts backwards... I presume it's to help soften the landing, or perhaps keep traction going on takeoff.

Awesome pic, but I want to know why no one is holding their ears? The noise at that distance must be incredible.

Your right about the wheel angle....... that angle is to let the wheels "softly" touch down.

Not alot of noise because at that level into the approach engines are running in idle. He is going to flair the aircraft wich is normal procedure. Right after touch down the noise increases again because the pilots apply thrust reverse in most airports. What they do is they idle the engines untill touch down then they put them in reverse and apply thrust again (reverse being that the thrust from the engines is directed to the opposit direction to help stop the aircraft)

RedBumper 10-15-2003 04:29 AM

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Originally posted by Shok
that's at the old Hong Kong airport. On that approach the planes have to make a hard right bank and then immediatly touch down. Lots of crosswind action there.

Planes would often land cocked into the wind then jab full rudder to straighten out when the tires touched.

Yups and blow some tires :-)

RedBumper 10-15-2003 04:30 AM

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Originally posted by rowan


What happened here? You can see wheel smoke and it looks like his nose is up so he's actually attempting to land at this angle? WTF?

Read above :-) Smoke is from the tires being ripped appart :-)

RedBumper 10-15-2003 04:32 AM

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Originally posted by Bex


It is neither one of those ... I flew into both in the past 2 years, and can tell you that it is not either one. If I remember correctly Puerto Plata runway is near the water (very fucking near ... too near for comfort), and it is short as hell, but there is no beach at the end of it.
I think St. Maarten is correct.

I used to fly the City Bird MD-11 Albatros into Punta Cana and Puerto Plata. Don't remember wich one but one of those has a beach infront of the marker, trust me :-)
Puerto plata is a level 3 at the breaks - so yes, very short :-)
The pisctures however could have been taken at St-Maarten, never been there myself.

invertiga 10-15-2003 04:46 AM

I've been into the old Hong Kong airport a number of times on the old approach through the city, pity they got rid of it cause it was freakin awesome.

Just as good was payin the old Hong Kong aeroclub on the side of the runway to sit on their roof drink beers and watch the planes come in. Watching China airlines pilots come in was the best, the amount of times they were way off line was frightening :)

Pad 10-15-2003 05:14 AM

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Originally posted by sarah_webinc
okay, no flight horror stories until after vegas :)
http://www.rotacoes.com/img/noticias/airplane_crash.jpg
THERE YOU ARE
I CAN TELL THE FUTURE
LISTEN, SARAH.. I CAN SENSE IT.. DON'T GO TO VEGAS
NEVER QUESTION THIS POST
I HAVE A REALLY BAD FEELING DON'T DO IT:Graucho

Shok 10-15-2003 05:37 AM

http://www.boobiebucks.com/boardstuff/jet4.jpg

http://www.boobiebucks.com/boardstuff/jet5.jpg

RedBumper 10-15-2003 07:14 AM

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Originally posted by Shok
http://www.boobiebucks.com/boardstuff/jet4.jpg

What happened? Looks like the engine seperated from the wing.

Shok 10-15-2003 07:23 AM

thats the American Airlines DC-10 crash at Chicago O'Hare in 1978.

Yeah the engine came off on takeoff which ripped the hydraulics out of the wing causing the slats to go up on that side but remained down on the otherside.

The pilots slowling lost all roll control.

Ironically this was the first flight that American was using the "Nose Cam" on, that allowed the passengers to watch the takeoff from the onboard screens. They all saw it coming.

RedBumper 10-15-2003 07:33 AM

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Originally posted by Shok
thats the American Airlines DC-10 crash at Chicago O'Hare in 1978.

Yeah the engine came off on takeoff which ripped the hydraulics out of the wing causing the slats to go up on that side but remained down on the otherside.

The pilots slowling lost all roll control.

Ironically this was the first flight that American was using the "Nose Cam" on, that allowed the passengers to watch the takeoff from the onboard screens. They all saw it coming.

What was the outcome of the investigation? Was it after that accident that they grounded all DC-10 and MD-11 to replace the engine pilons? I think it was around that time if i'm correct.

Guess the pilots didn't really know what was happening else they would have reconfigured the other wing and apply slats up and flaps down - i can slightly remember an incident where the aircraft suffered an in flight engine blow out. Parts of the engine penetrated the fuselage causing a loss of almost all hydraulics. The pilots reconfigured what they could and applied slats up and flaps down on both wings. They made it to the airport and did a hard touch down (i think it was around 220 knots TAS).

BlueDesignStudios 10-15-2003 07:35 AM

fiddy big bird pics!!

gornyhuy 10-15-2003 07:47 AM

Tell me thats not a bloody arm lying there:

http://www.hotxvids.com/approach/enf3.jpg

Shok 10-15-2003 07:50 AM

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Originally posted by RedBumper


What was the outcome of the investigation? Was it after that accident that they grounded all DC-10 and MD-11 to replace the engine pilons? I think it was around that time if i'm correct.

Guess the pilots didn't really know what was happening else they would have reconfigured the other wing and apply slats up and flaps down - i can slightly remember an incident where the aircraft suffered an in flight engine blow out. Parts of the engine penetrated the fuselage causing a loss of almost all hydraulics. The pilots reconfigured what they could and applied slats up and flaps down on both wings. They made it to the airport and did a hard touch down (i think it was around 220 knots TAS).


Yeah the investigation found that the way the engines were being mounted caused the cracks that led to the engine coming off.

The other flight your thinking of was the United flight in the late 80's. They lost all control except for the engine thrust on each wing. Amazing they even made it anywhere near an airport let alone on the runway.

RedBumper 10-15-2003 07:50 AM

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Originally posted by gornyhuy
Tell me thats not a bloody arm lying there:

Nope and i don't see what you mean.

mrthumbs 10-15-2003 07:54 AM

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Originally posted by gornyhuy
Tell me thats not a bloody arm lying there:

yeah it is

RedBumper 10-15-2003 07:55 AM

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Originally posted by Shok



Yeah the investigation found that the way the engines were being mounted caused the cracks that led to the engine coming off.

The other flight your thinking of was the United flight in the late 80's. They lost all control except for the engine thrust on each wing. Amazing they even made it anywhere near an airport let alone on the runway.

Tried it in the sim....... we where able to keep it up for about 10 mins then hell broke loose when we wanted to turn hard left.
Pitched down and uhm........... it kept doing that lol

RedBumper 10-15-2003 07:55 AM

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Originally posted by mrthumbs


yeah it is

I can asure you it isn't.

Shok 10-15-2003 07:58 AM

thats a rusted part of the inner wing, how would an arm get out on the wing, besides it wasnt a crash just an engine burn

Shok 10-15-2003 08:01 AM

http://boobiebucks.com/boardstuff/jet6.jpg

RedBumper 10-15-2003 08:04 AM

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Originally posted by Shok
http://boobiebucks.com/boardstuff/jet6.jpg
You want the transcript?

RedBumper 10-15-2003 08:04 AM

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Originally posted by Shok
thats a rusted part of the inner wing, how would an arm get out on the wing, besides it wasnt a crash just an engine burn
yeah and it was VERY uncontained :1orglaugh

Shok 10-15-2003 08:06 AM

yeah I saw the transcipt, pretty cool photo though.

RedBumper 10-15-2003 08:10 AM

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Originally posted by Shok
yeah I saw the transcipt, pretty cool photo though.
yup but with a very ugly outcome..........
again (like always) it was just a chain of things that caused it to go bad. Don't really get it why they grounded all the birds after that for changes. I think Concorde is about the only aircraft who now has wheel caps and wing puncture plates.

404 10-15-2003 08:16 PM

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Originally posted by Shok


The other flight your thinking of was the United flight in the late 80's. They lost all control except for the engine thrust on each wing. Amazing they even made it anywhere near an airport let alone on the runway.

sioux city...they played much of the crew's conversation right up to the point of impact on the 'black box' tv series. those pilots were absolute pros, no panic at all.

head to your bookstore and grab 'air disaster' (3 volumes) by macarthur job, goes into incredible detail of most of the big accidents over the years.

PinkMonkey 10-15-2003 08:39 PM

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Originally posted by Peaches

Holy crap - they're that close and the landing gear's not even all the way down??! Have they had any accidents there?

You're going to be in trouble for "the other" picture. :1orglaugh

The landing gear is fully down...it's angled so the back tires touch first then the forward tires on the back hit second.

PinkMonkey 10-15-2003 08:41 PM

http://www.airdisaster.com/

Have fun with that site.....make you never wanna fly again...i mean ever. Every recorded commercial airliner crash recorded.

integrated 10-15-2003 08:43 PM

interesting thread

i enjoyed reading it

integrated 10-15-2003 09:35 PM

any footage of planes landing at the old hong kong airport?

404 10-15-2003 10:08 PM

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Originally posted by rowan


What happened here? You can see wheel smoke and it looks like his nose is up so he's actually attempting to land at this angle? WTF?

i've got the mov file that this is capped from...a kal landing that lurches wildly this way & that several times before touching down. would have scared the crap outta me if i was a passenger.

and thanks for the pics shok :thumbsup

RedBumper 10-16-2003 04:16 AM

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Originally posted by integrated
any footage of planes landing at the old hong kong airport?
I know i've got some somewhere..... gimmie a few and i'll put it up

RedBumper 10-16-2003 04:21 AM

haha, funny shit........ FOD. This is what happens if you forget to clear left and right before pushing up that throttle.

http://www.hotxvids.com/fod1.jpg

http://www.hotxvids.com/fod2.jpg

http://www.hotxvids.com/fod3.jpg

chodadog 10-16-2003 04:48 AM

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Originally posted by mastamindz


Whats with the bare ass

Welcome to St. Maarten?

404 10-16-2003 04:50 AM

you think that's good, have a read of this


http://www.vision.net.au/~apaterson/..._anchorage.htm

myjah 10-16-2003 07:50 AM

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Originally posted by RedBumper
Some nice approach pictures and some pilots who need to do some final approach training :-)

http://www.hotxvids.com/approach/gfy1.jpg

http://www.hotxvids.com/approach/gfy2.jpg

http://www.hotxvids.com/approach/gfy3.jpg

thats craaazy!


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