BREAKING NEWS: New Patent for Exit-Console Traffic Approved... another Acacia? - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

Bladewire · 10-09-2003, 03:51 PM

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Originally posted by JupZChris
good think i dont use exit consoles :-D

It's NOT just exit consoles JupZChris!

It's also directing access to content on a computer network , serving content over a wide area network, providing internet advertising service ... and MANY more.. see my original post here.

How are you going to avoid these pending patents JupZChris? By going out of business maybe? without being able to advertise on the intrnet without paying a patent license I think you might have to go out of business.

We have to stick together here and fight for the small guys right to do business on the net in an affordable manner, or we will all be edged out by big business.

FightThisPatent · 10-09-2003, 03:51 PM

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Originally posted by BradShaw
I hear rumors that FM Ron Levi is involved in this, or trying to be. Not to mention he is working at locking down or buying other patents. He will use these in a vindictive way against this industry in which he had such a harsh fall from grace. You heard it here first. This is no joke.

yowsa!

Bladewire · 10-09-2003, 03:51 PM

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Originally posted by BradShaw
I hear rumors that FM Ron Levi is involved in this, or trying to be. Not to mention he is working at locking down or buying other patents. He will use these in a vindictive way against this industry in which he had such a harsh fall from grace. You heard it here first. This is no joke.

BS what do you know about this connection?

Ideafloods is owned by Global reach Inc.
Web1000 is owned by Global reach Inc.
xxx.com is owned by web1000

What can we do here?

Bladewire · 10-09-2003, 03:54 PM

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Originally posted by Praguer

As stupid as this may sound, it is possible to patent the idea. If nobody has not done it before, the patent will be granted, simple as that, any idea with a practical application can be patented.

Scarry isn't it?

BradShaw · 10-09-2003, 03:55 PM

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Originally posted by Squirtit

BS what do you know about this connection?

Ideafloods is owned by Global reach Inc.
Web1000 is owned by Global reach Inc.
xxx.com is owned by web1000

What can we do here?

I would have to look into it. Nothing off the top of my head. I do know FM was running his mouth about how he was going to support the fight against Acacia and he has yet to put $1 towards the cause as I understand it. Where there is smoke, there is fire.

Support the IMPA.

Bladewire · 10-09-2003, 04:01 PM

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Originally posted by BradShaw

I would have to look into it. Nothing off the top of my head. I do know FM was running his mouth about how he was going to support the fight against Acacia and he has yet to put $1 towards the cause as I understand it. Where there is smoke, there is fire.

Support the IMPA.

This support is vital to the top guys making money off the little guys. If the little guys go out of business.. or there are fewer of us.. who's gonna make the dough for the big guys? TGP.. feeder sites... affiliate etc?

I hope something changes here.... support is vital to long term profits for all.

Dravyk · 10-09-2003, 04:07 PM

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Originally posted by Kimmykim
You want prior art? Robin Nixon built it, Timon figured out how to turn it into money.

Schuster's not got a leg to stand on.

And ... seriously, ask Serge and Meatman to be sure, they were there ... a guy name Spanker invented it.

Dravyk · 10-09-2003, 04:10 PM

PS ... one would think Netscape who invented Java Script 1.0 and put the coding in there may have known what they were doing as well. If so, Netscape was eaten by AOL which was eaten by Time-Warner, so let them protect the code from XPics!

I doubt even Schuster's wallet can match theirs!

Bladewire · 10-09-2003, 04:13 PM

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Originally posted by Dravyk
And ... seriously, ask Serge and Meatman to be sure, they were there ... a guy name Spanker invented it.

Ok.. gonna post a new thread adressing this issue and see if I can get a response. Thanks for the tip. Their GFY usernames are Serge and Meatman? Is Spanker on here too? Any other sames who could help us here?

Bladewire · 10-09-2003, 04:14 PM

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Originally posted by Dravyk
PS ... one would think Netscape who invented Java Script 1.0 and put the coding in there may have known what they were doing as well. If so, Netscape was eaten by AOL which was eaten by Time-Warner, so let them protect the code from XPics!

I doubt even Schuster's wallet can match theirs!

It doens't matter who invented the programmng language it's the process that they are patenting ... i.e. Like driving a car isn't patented.. but the way you drive it could be process patented. ( not a completely accurate example but it gets the point accross

The Truth Hurts · 10-09-2003, 04:16 PM

how do you "invent" something built into the code it's written in?

never quite got this whole idea of someone inventing consoles.. exit or otherwise.. other than the people that developed JavaSc®ipt/Java/ActiveX or whatever else that can spawn a window..

Bladewire · 10-09-2003, 04:22 PM

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Originally posted by The Truth Hurts
how do you "invent" something built into the code it's written in?

never quite got this whole idea of someone inventing consoles.. exit or otherwise.. other than the people that developed JavaSc®ipt/Java/ActiveX or whatever else that can spawn a window..

Well a basic example be this: Plastic is a material, the shape you mold the platic into can be patented. i.e. kids toy, watering can, baby bottle, etc. etc.

Code is the same way.. the program or process that the code creates can be patented.

Far-L · 10-09-2003, 04:23 PM

The IMPA will work for Patent Reform as one of its agendas.

There is a movement for reform and we intend to file a brief on the subject of Prior Art requirements.

I will release more info on this asap.

Bladewire · 10-09-2003, 04:28 PM

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Originally posted by Far-L
The IMPA will work for Patent Reform as one of its agendas.

There is a movement for reform and we intend to file a brief on the subject of Prior Art requirements.

I will release more info on this asap.

Great! My ICQ is in the location field of my profile to the left ... ICQ me if I can help in any way with this.

Hustler DJ · 10-09-2003, 07:39 PM

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Originally posted by Praguer

As stupid as this may sound, it is possible to patent the idea. If nobody has not done it before, the patent will be granted, simple as that, any idea with a practical application can be patented.

Disgusting, ain't it Praguer...

If memory serves, in order to invalidate this patent, one will have to prove that ALL of the claims of the patent existed in prior art less than one year before the grant date of the patent itself.

Contrarily, to prove infringement on the patent, they'll only have to show that one of us violated ONE of their claims. The rub comes when you examine the claims and find the 1-2 that pass the "novelty" test and try to find evidence of prior art that they missed. That way, even the most idiotic/technophobic justice can realize what needs to be done...

Argh.

BradShaw · 10-09-2003, 08:08 PM

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Originally posted by The Truth Hurts
how do you "invent" something built into the code it's written in?

never quite got this whole idea of someone inventing consoles.. exit or otherwise.. other than the people that developed JavaSc®ipt/Java/ActiveX or whatever else that can spawn a window..

Ask Ron.

skoopy · 10-09-2003, 10:13 PM

I could live without using exit consoles

morecash · 10-09-2003, 10:46 PM

Wow, I've been using exit consoles since 1997!!!

I've been using exit consoles since 1997.
http://web.archive.org/web/199812031....com/pregnant/

http://web.archive.org/web/199712220.../ahotsite.com/

Hey Dravyk, what was Spankers site? xxxstories or something like that.
I think Colin had a few circle jerk sites as well back then.

I think robin started his first exit console program for webmasters in early 97. I forget the name of it, but you had to have at least 20,000 hits a day to join.

Marina · 10-09-2003, 11:10 PM

Maybe collect signatures on fightthepatent and IMPA websites? Mail them to your gov and the patent office (and any other appropriate people)? With a nice long letter on how it is ridiculous....

Enough signatures on anything WILL get noticed!

Furious_Male · 10-09-2003, 11:16 PM

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Originally posted by skoopy
I could live without using exit consoles

Its not just exit consoles. Did you

read this?.

First streaming media.. then exit consoles whats next?? The flood gates are opening.

Anothers · 10-09-2003, 11:28 PM

maybe this idea to patent www wasn't so bad at all?
(who was it? I can't remember)

in about 2 years there will be hard to surf the net in US because license fees

God Bless America

morecash · 10-09-2003, 11:31 PM

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Originally posted by Squirtit

Ok.. gonna post a new thread adressing this issue and see if I can get a response. Thanks for the tip. Their GFY usernames are Serge and Meatman? Is Spanker on here too? Any other sames who could help us here?

Hey Squirtit,

Spanker left the industry back in 98 or 99.
The real person to talk with is Robin Nixon, I think he was the first to use exit consoles and start an exit trading program.
Robin left the industry for awhile, but I heard he's back now on some other board.

Thxs,
BOOM

BradShaw · 10-09-2003, 11:34 PM

Where is RON?

Hooper · 10-09-2003, 11:34 PM

i hate to "break the news" to you... but "breaking news" usually happened *RECENTLY*

that patent was filed in 98... hardly new news.

just new that you found it.

FightThisPatent · 10-10-2003, 07:00 AM

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Originally posted by Anothers
maybe this idea to patent www wasn't so bad at all?
(who was it? I can't remember)

Tim Berners-Lee invented the concept of the World Wide Web.. he was faced with the option to patent the idea, or to release it for free for all to use.... he chose not to patent it.

All of the founding technology of the Internet was developed by people who shared their talents and innovations with the world, without getting a patent and without expecting a license fee.

For all the REAL hardward, software, and technology created, it really is arrogant for Acacia to think they the disclosure of the patent for all to read helped others to learn from their patent and to expand on it.

I do believe that their patent does describe teleportation (http://www.FightThePatent.com/v2/Teleportation.html) or some kind of futuristic Home Shopping Network where items could be digitized and shipped to you like "beam me up scotty"....

Berman also cites in Acacia's defense that 100+ other patents reference their patent.. .this is no validation of the legitimacy of their patent, it means that other applicants are doing what is required by USPTO, and that is to reference ALL prior art that they are aware of.....

Fight the Patent!

SomeCreep · 10-10-2003, 07:23 AM

I own the patent to breath air. Pay up motherfuckers!

FightThisPatent · 10-10-2003, 07:47 AM

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Originally posted by Hooper
i hate to "break the news" to you... but "breaking news" usually happened *RECENTLY*

that patent was filed in 98... hardly new news.

just new that you found it.

true....but Acacia was sending their 'info packets' last year (fall 2002), and this is still news to many people today.... and as more awareness is generated, it will be "breaking news" for other webmasters once they get informed.

For the defendants fighting against Acacia's claims, it's breaking their wallets.

Fight the Patent!

FightThisPatent · 10-10-2003, 07:49 AM

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Originally posted by SomeCreep
I own the patent to breath air. Pay up motherfuckers!

be sure to amend your patent to include the exiting of air as well.. you could have the patent on breathing in air.. but if someone has got the exiting (traffic) of air, then you gonna have to share 50/50 the license fees

Fight the Patent!

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The Truth Hurts Zph7YXfjMhg Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: In Your Skull Posts: 15,304	how do you "invent" something built into the code it's written in? never quite got this whole idea of someone inventing consoles.. exit or otherwise.. other than the people that developed JavaSc®ipt/Java/ActiveX or whatever else that can spawn a window..

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