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Paul Markham · 10-10-2003, 11:22 PM

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Originally posted by JayJay
I love this FightThisPatent guy If we all had even as half as much fighting passion and spirit as him no one could touch our business

JayJay one of the truest statements I have read.

I ICQed the threads to all on my contacts list, one guy came back to ask what it had to do with him as he does not sell videos or even content.

He's a third party processor with 60% of his business in the adult world. If my worse case scenario is right he is fucked becasue no the big guys with 75% of the industry will have their own merchant accounts, direct from Visa and their own hosting. The middle men in this business. like hosting, 3rd party, traffic, design and even content will take a massive hit. Most will die off.

FightThisPatent · 10-11-2003, 06:42 AM

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Originally posted by charly

I think what a lot of do not realize is the financial benefits to the companies paying the license and them with the patents to reduce this market down to 100 players.

One could almost chalk the idea that the big players who are settling with Acacia are doing so to knock out competitors as a conspiriacy theory, but given some astute observations, it does not sound so far off.

Combine this with the fact that some industry players have patents and have patents-pending that you can now see that patents can be used to reduce competition... afterall, that's kinda what the patent means......

The original intent of the patent system was to allow inventors to share their discoveries and inventions for all to read and learn to further technological progress [do you hear the patriotic music going in the background?] but then [music scratches to complete stop] businesses discovered that a patent can be used to shut out competitors and either make them pay to continue or shutdown.

Henry Ford faced patent issues back in the day, so this current trend of patent infringement cases, is just history repeating itself over and over.

These patent abuse cases will repeat themselves over and over, hence the need and the time to make a stand.

Both FTPF and IMPA have it in their focus to fight against patent abuse cases.

FTPF has the altruistic method of getting experts to come forward to participate, rather than trying to seek them out individually (yes, this will be done as well, but having broader exposure certainly helps alot to uncover the prior art).

FTPF touches upon a grassroots effort to get people, who may have the silver bullets to invalidate a patent claim, involved in the fight.

Believe me, it's not easy to get someone to come forward to help... i have spent hours and hours in emails, phone, and fax to get to people to get their attention, even calling them at their home numbers to get their attention.

There is a great synergy between IMPA and FTPF efforts, but our charters are very different, but we have some strong common traits that makes us great contributors to the side of fighting against bad patents.

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FightThisPatent · 10-11-2003, 06:22 PM

Quick Acacia Summary:

Acacia has patents in several international countries, so this ain' a US-specific absurdity:

http://www.acaciatechnologies.com/patents.htm

Information abou their licensing structure for webmasters and content producers is here:

http://www.acaciatechnologies.com/te...t_adultent.htm

A way that you can fight against all patent abuse cases like Acacia is here: http://www.FightThePatent.com/go

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FightThisPatent · 10-12-2003, 06:33 AM

Sponsors and Content Producers, I am creating an email for you to present my observations about your issues with Acacia's patent (ie. licensing). While I can't give you a definitive answer to do or don't license it, I can give you some things to consider when making your personal and professional decision.

I have had several already contact me, and I feel it is good informaiton to share in email, rather than posting.

I will be starting a campaign this week to contact all Content Producers and Sponsors... if you want to get on the list faster to receive my thoughts on these issues, email me at:

brandon -at- fightthepatent.com

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SGS · 10-12-2003, 06:43 AM

FightThisPatent,

Goal = $250,000
Pledged = $5,700

That?s a bit of a gap! What are your realistic chances of getting anywhere close to your target?

FightThisPatent · 10-12-2003, 06:53 AM

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Originally posted by SGS
FightThisPatent,

Goal = $250,000
Pledged = $5,700

That?s a bit of a gap! What are your realistic chances of getting anywhere close to your target?

Yes, a very big gap indeed... i have had many people tell me before the Pledge Drive started, that i realistically won't reach the goal, since most webmasters don't care, are ignorant of the issues, don't know about the issues, are cheap, are frugal, etc, etc.

I believe that there is a sense of community despite the big players settling, and probably more so because the big players have settled.

Getting $5,700 in pledge since the launch of the pledge drive on Wednesday is not bad at all... granted, the pace does need to pick up.

I may have tapped out on what awareness and pledges I can generate from the boards, so I am complementing my message with an email campaign to sponsors and content producers... to give them my observations about the patent and the licensing issues, and to get their support with either pledges and/or helping to spread the word to their customers by passing on an email message from FTPF.

The Pledge Drive is also in conflicts with IMPA's donation efforts. While Spike and Far-L understand there is great synergy between the organizations and we both are fighting for the same causes and on the same sidees, that donations/pledges to either side, takes away from the other.

I am not accepting any money from any webmasters until the pledge drive goal has been reached.

I can't fight to defend webmaster's rights if they don't want to be defended and don't support those that do. Activism takes money, especially given my approach to getting mainstream experts and prior art to come forward to want to help invalidate the patents.

Being a businessman and a realistic thinker, I am still optimistic that I the community will come together and the goal of pledging at least $250,000 will be reached. I am willing to try and push, willing to sacrifice my personal and professional time to ensure that prior art is found and that all websites are able to have audio or video on their websites.

You can learn more about Fight the Patent Foundation at http://www.FightThePatent.com/go

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SGS · 10-12-2003, 07:47 AM

Two things come to mind at this point:

1. Not quite sure how splitting the fund raising affects the focus on IMPA.
2. The lack of pledges would initially indicate that a lot of the bigger companies are planning to settle as soon as a palatable way to do this can be found.

The run-up to end of the announced grace period is going to be very interesting.

FightThisPatent · 10-12-2003, 08:33 AM

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Originally posted by SGS

The run-up to end of the announced grace period is going to be very interesting.

indeed... companies are faced with the hard business decision to accept the patent license now, or fear to have to pay more after the "amnesty" date has passed.

I believe that Nov. 30th is the date.

Sponsors and Content Producers can email me at:

brandon -at- FightThePatent.com

and I will send you an email that summarizes my observations in respect to the decision to be made.

I will be contacting all sponsors and content producers myself, but if you want to get a jump on the information, email me and i can respond with the message.

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Suckitbitch · 10-12-2003, 12:44 PM

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Originally posted by SGS
Two things come to mind at this point:

1. Not quite sure how splitting the fund raising affects the focus on IMPA.
2. The lack of pledges would initially indicate that a lot of the bigger companies are planning to settle as soon as a palatable way to do this can be found.

The run-up to end of the announced grace period is going to be very interesting.

The problem is the smart webmasters are setteling. The stupid ones don't even know whats going on and have their heads up their asses or burried in the sand. The "fight for the principal of the thing / common good" crowd is going to wind up with a huge bill, win or lose.

If the patent is invalidated, expect a lengthy appeal process and all those companies that chose to settle suing acacia to get out of their agreement and saying "thanks for doing our dirty work".

SGS · 10-12-2003, 01:02 PM

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Originally posted by Suckitbitch

The problem is the smart webmasters are setteling. The stupid ones don't even know whats going on and have their heads up their asses or burried in the sand. The "fight for the principal of the thing / common good" crowd is going to wind up with a huge bill, win or lose.

If the patent is invalidated, expect a lengthy appeal process and all those companies that chose to settle suing acacia to get out of their agreement and saying "thanks for doing our dirty work".

It would certainly be interesting to see a list of all of those who have settled already.

FightThisPatent · 10-12-2003, 04:03 PM

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Originally posted by Suckitbitch

The problem is the smart webmasters are setteling. The stupid ones don't even know whats going on .....

I wouldn't say that.. i would say the webmasters with stupid IP/Patent attorneys are settling, and the ones that have smart IP/Patent attorneys are fighting.

None of the big players have contacted me to get my opinion on the matter, nor what prior art I could present to them to make some kind of informed decision.

I have never claimed to be an expert in patent law, but it doesn't take a JD degree and passing the patent exam to figure out that if someone is out there talking to experts and finding prior art as reported on a website that has been highly publicized on message boards and easily found on Google searches, that, that's the person you want to talk to.

I agree, there are alot of webmasters who have no clue about what is going on and they sit there and post on GFY looking for the next video content to put up.....

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FightThisPatent · 10-12-2003, 07:26 PM

FightThisPatent · 10-12-2003, 07:39 PM

The Pledge Drive seems to have hit a speed bump...was doing so well there for a while....

Any ideas on ways to get webmasters interested to pledge?

I am thinking maybe a raffle approach, where a $100 contribution "buys" a ticket.. it's gotta be something pretty cool.... maybe something like some big music star doing a shout-out for the winner of the raffle.......i'll have to dig into my connections into the music biz to see what's available

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FightThisPatent · 10-12-2003, 10:03 PM

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Originally posted by SGS

It would certainly be interesting to see a list of all of those who have settled already.

Acacia already has their own list.. it's called Press Releases...everytime they signup a company, they issue a PR statement...check out the list of who's who of licensing Acacia's patent:

http://www.acaciatechnologies.com

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FightThisPatent · 10-13-2003, 06:02 AM

Charly made a great conspiracy theory post that could be very realistically possible.

The idea is that Acacia could be convinced by the big players that signed to not bother going after licensing deals with adult webmasters, and just stop everyone from using their patents, and focus on the large mainstream fish.

While they could certainly do that, i still hold to my theory on their strategy to get like 100,000 websites to license their patent for a minimum of $1,500/year, which brings the yearly revenue stream to $150 million dollars.

yowsa...

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FightThisPatent · 10-13-2003, 09:09 AM

bump...see post above.. interesting conspiracy theory

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sexeducation · 10-13-2003, 11:19 PM

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Originally posted by FightThisPatent

Acacia already has their own list.. it's called Press Releases...everytime they signup a company, they issue a PR statement...check out the list of who's who of licensing Acacia's patent:

http://www.acaciatechnologies.com

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Brandon ...
may I suggest you post like this ...

Hustler.com just signed up ...
Vivid as well ...

What - "more well known" - companies is Acacia now bragging about?

We all know it is just math.
Easier to settle and go on with their daily tasks of business - then in it is to go to court.

See the following link ...
for others that have taken the easy "math" way out ... ???

Holly · 10-13-2003, 11:42 PM

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Originally posted by sexeducation

Brandon ...
may I suggest you post like this ...

Hustler.com just signed up ...
Vivid as well ...

What - "more well known" - companies is Acacia now bragging about?

We all know it is just math.
Easier to settle and go on with their daily tasks of business - then in it is to go to court.

See the following link ...
for others that have taken the easy "math" way out ... ???

I'm gonna tie you down and take an electric belt sander and scrub every inch of your body with 40 grit sandpaper, top to bottom. Twice. Then I'm going to get towels and soak them until they're wringing wet, in pure grain alcohol and wrap you in them, head to toe. Next, I'm gonna get two dull steak knives and stab right through the center of each of your eyeballs. When I'm through with that, if you're still conscious, I'm gonna load up a syringe of Ajax, and give you a few cc's in each arm.

That should do, for starters.

GFED · 10-15-2003, 08:00 AM

FightThisPatent · 10-15-2003, 08:03 AM

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Originally posted by Holly

I'm gonna tie you down and take an electric belt sander ....

Holly, i apologize for any past, past-life, present, future, or future-self things that I had/have/or will do to piss you off...

I don't think anyone would want to be in SE's place given the R rating of your text trailer for your upcoming movie.

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10-11-2003, 06:22 PM	#53
FightThisPatent Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 4,090	Quick Acacia Summary: Acacia has patents in several international countries, so this ain' a US-specific absurdity: http://www.acaciatechnologies.com/patents.htm Information abou their licensing structure for webmasters and content producers is here: http://www.acaciatechnologies.com/te...t_adultent.htm A way that you can fight against all patent abuse cases like Acacia is here: http://www.FightThePatent.com/go Fight the Patent! __________________ http://www.t3report.com (where's the traffic?) v5.0 is out! \| http://www.FightThePatent.com \| ICQ 52741957

10-12-2003, 06:33 AM	#54
FightThisPatent Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 4,090	Sponsors and Content Producers, I am creating an email for you to present my observations about your issues with Acacia's patent (ie. licensing). While I can't give you a definitive answer to do or don't license it, I can give you some things to consider when making your personal and professional decision. I have had several already contact me, and I feel it is good informaiton to share in email, rather than posting. I will be starting a campaign this week to contact all Content Producers and Sponsors... if you want to get on the list faster to receive my thoughts on these issues, email me at: brandon -at- fightthepatent.com Fight the Patent! __________________ http://www.t3report.com (where's the traffic?) v5.0 is out! \| http://www.FightThePatent.com \| ICQ 52741957

10-12-2003, 06:43 AM	#55
SGS Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mallorca - Nottingham Posts: 5,176	FightThisPatent, Goal = $250,000 Pledged = $5,700 That?s a bit of a gap! What are your realistic chances of getting anywhere close to your target? __________________ See sig...

10-12-2003, 07:47 AM	#57
SGS Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mallorca - Nottingham Posts: 5,176	Two things come to mind at this point: 1. Not quite sure how splitting the fund raising affects the focus on IMPA. 2. The lack of pledges would initially indicate that a lot of the bigger companies are planning to settle as soon as a palatable way to do this can be found. The run-up to end of the announced grace period is going to be very interesting. __________________ See sig...

10-12-2003, 07:26 PM	#62
FightThisPatent Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 4,090	. __________________ http://www.t3report.com (where's the traffic?) v5.0 is out! \| http://www.FightThePatent.com \| ICQ 52741957 Last edited by FightThisPatent; 10-12-2003 at 07:38 PM..

10-12-2003, 07:39 PM	#63
FightThisPatent Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 4,090	The Pledge Drive seems to have hit a speed bump...was doing so well there for a while.... Any ideas on ways to get webmasters interested to pledge? I am thinking maybe a raffle approach, where a $100 contribution "buys" a ticket.. it's gotta be something pretty cool.... maybe something like some big music star doing a shout-out for the winner of the raffle.......i'll have to dig into my connections into the music biz to see what's available Fight the Patent! __________________ http://www.t3report.com (where's the traffic?) v5.0 is out! \| http://www.FightThePatent.com \| ICQ 52741957

10-13-2003, 06:02 AM	#65
FightThisPatent Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 4,090	Charly made a great conspiracy theory post that could be very realistically possible. The idea is that Acacia could be convinced by the big players that signed to not bother going after licensing deals with adult webmasters, and just stop everyone from using their patents, and focus on the large mainstream fish. While they could certainly do that, i still hold to my theory on their strategy to get like 100,000 websites to license their patent for a minimum of $1,500/year, which brings the yearly revenue stream to $150 million dollars. yowsa... Fight the Patent! __________________ http://www.t3report.com (where's the traffic?) v5.0 is out! \| http://www.FightThePatent.com \| ICQ 52741957

10-13-2003, 09:09 AM	#66
FightThisPatent Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 4,090	bump...see post above.. interesting conspiracy theory Fight the Patent! __________________ http://www.t3report.com (where's the traffic?) v5.0 is out! \| http://www.FightThePatent.com \| ICQ 52741957

10-15-2003, 08:00 AM	#69
GFED Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 8,120	__________________ https://www.flow.page/savethechildren