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BBWTori · 10-07-2003, 04:35 PM

OK I am pretty new to all this so please be gentle

I run an amateur adult niche web site called BBWTori.com
The main model, you guessed it, is me and my girlfriends.
Now here is my issue, I also run a successful print magazine that has been in existence for more than 8 years called BIG BUTT Magazine. We are second to none in sales, beating ALL other big girl magazines out there.
My site is an extension of me and I am really unsure of where to go with it. I have had it on the web for like, 4 years but I was happy in my own little crowd, generating memberships that didn't really amount to much.
ANYWAY here is my question to all you knowledgeable people out there. As for generating traffic...what can I do?
I mean I KNOW there are big girl/BBW lovers out there, since my magazine sells so well, but HOW do I reach them on the web? Does anyone have any suggestions? I just did a redesign and I want to start fresh when generating traffic...can anyone help a sista out?

brand0n · 10-07-2003, 04:38 PM

i like big butts and i can not lie (well not that big)

good luck on your site and news add, i just wanted to make the big butt joke

NetRodent · 10-07-2003, 04:40 PM

Why not ask your magazine subscribers where they go online?

Here are a few other suggestions...

1. Search Engines
2. TGPs
3. Exit swaps with other BBW sites
4. Yahoo Groups (and similiar online communities)

Before you start promoting yourself, take a good long look at your site. It needs some work.

GrimShawn · 10-07-2003, 04:40 PM

FATPad · 10-07-2003, 04:44 PM

I would put more popups on your site.

(Sorry, I'm just tired of checking out amateur sites and ending up with 7 popups to toplists and other crap.)

MetaMan · 10-07-2003, 04:46 PM

one of the B's has to be taken out of the BBW.

OUCH!

natas · 10-07-2003, 04:49 PM

damn!

lose the pop ups ffs

footsex · 10-07-2003, 04:53 PM

fucking pop up hell

quite now and go play with your magazine

BBWTori · 10-07-2003, 05:01 PM

sheeeeeeeeeeeit!
I knew I was gonna get some criticism, but damn! LOL
Its all good, I got a THICK skin

Anyways
A) I am NOT spamming I am seriously looking for some ideas
For those who sent me some cool suggestions THANKS ! A friend told me to check you guys out...
B) I HATE THE POP UPS but right now its driving in the traffic for me since I really dont know what else to do...
Thanks anyways

blindman · 10-07-2003, 05:03 PM

how big is your mag icq me

J.R. · 10-07-2003, 05:05 PM

36-24-26 ?

Yeah, only if she is 5' 3"

So your girlfriend drives a Honda and playing workout
tapes by Fonda...

darnit · 10-07-2003, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BBWTori
sheeeeeeeeeeeit!
I knew I was gonna get some criticism, but damn!

seriously if you want advice this is probably a bad place to start looking. My advice find high traffic bbw sites, search on sextracker or something for the ones with a lot of traffic and begin to disect how they generate their traffic....find who they trade with and why, email the webmaster or webmistress...start there, begin to make connections and learn from others who work in your same niche....

oh and go fuck yourself....

NetRodent · 10-07-2003, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BBWTori
B) I HATE THE POP UPS but right now its driving in the traffic for me since I really dont know what else to do...
Thanks anyways

If you must use popups, pop them on exit not on load. I trust you have your own tracking in place to monitor how many hits you send out versus how many hits you get in.

BBWTori · 10-07-2003, 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NetRodent
Why not ask your magazine subscribers where they go online?

Here are a few other suggestions...

1. Search Engines
2. TGPs
3. Exit swaps with other BBW sites
4. Yahoo Groups (and similiar online communities)

Before you start promoting yourself, take a good long look at your site. It needs some work.

I would really like your opinion on what you feel it needs work on. I never claimed to be a professional at this...would you mind letting me know?Thank you
Tori

ZoiNk · 10-07-2003, 05:08 PM

ICQ me (info on the left) and I will give you a handful of suggestions. Just not in the mood at typing them out at the moment.
ZoiNk

nofx · 10-07-2003, 05:08 PM

8 men wanted!

kaylacam · 10-07-2003, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BBWTori
sheeeeeeeeeeeit!
I knew I was gonna get some criticism, but damn! LOL
Its all good, I got a THICK skin
Anyways
A) I am NOT spamming I am seriously looking for some ideas
For those who sent me some cool suggestions THANKS ! A friend told me to check you guys out...
B) I HATE THE POP UPS but right now its driving in the traffic for me since I really dont know what else to do...
Thanks anyways

Pop ups are evil. I have ONE, on unload UNLESS they hit anything else on my website. I just added it this morning. I am not a pop up lover at ALL!

Look for alternative marketing.

BBWTori · 10-07-2003, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kaylacam

Pop ups are evil. I have ONE, on unload UNLESS they hit anything else on my website. I just added it this morning. I am not a pop up lover at ALL!

Look for alternative marketing.

Hence the reason I am here...

FATPad · 10-07-2003, 05:27 PM

You have ICQ?

HEARTBREAKER · 10-07-2003, 05:29 PM

BBWTori · 10-07-2003, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FATPad
You have ICQ?

Ya Sure do
18495959
and Yahoo
luscious_tori

Nanda · 10-07-2003, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NetRodent
Why not ask your magazine subscribers where they go online?

Here are a few other suggestions...

1. Search Engines
2. TGPs
3. Exit swaps with other BBW sites
4. Yahoo Groups (and similiar online communities)

Before you start promoting yourself, take a good long look at your site. It needs some work.

I agree, and u also need to get rid of those pop ups. I felt I was bombarded by pops....

ZoiNk · 10-07-2003, 06:00 PM

Just a bump, I gave some help, but the most ppl that do help, the easier this will be.
ZoiNk

NetRodent · 10-07-2003, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BBWTori

I would really like your opinion on what you feel it needs work on. I never claimed to be a professional at this...would you mind letting me know?Thank you
Tori

1. Are you running a link site or a paysite? Every link on your site that leads to someone else is a potential lost sale. If you want to get people to join your site, don't give them any reason to get distracted and leave.

2. Link from your free sites to your paysites, but not the other way around. Your free sites (such as your yahoo club) should exist to funnel traffic to the pay site. Once the traffic hits the paysite you don't want to give it an easy way out. Once someone hits bbwtori.com do you really want them to visit your
yahoo club or do you want them to join?

3. Make it easy for members to join. Here too think of your cover and tour as a funnel, leading to your join page. Everything should lead to your join page. There should always be a link visible to 'see it all' or 'get access'.

4. Don't give them too much for free. Show them some pictures to excite them, but don't over look the judicious use of text to describe the content that is "too hot to show in the tour".

5. Unless you're going for the 1997 retro look, get a more contemporary design and use better photos. Avoid over compressing pics, the grainy look is not enticing.

6. Why is it a lair? Why not an a playpen, hangout, or club house? Other than the name there was nothing lair like about the site. Pick a voice and give the site some personality. Is the site just a heap of big-butt content or is it your lair? Emphasis your bio.

7. Take all of the promotional crap for other sites and put the best of it on an exit console or two. Take your best shot at the surfer, if he doesn't buy then you can try to send the hit off somewhere else.

Amputate Your Head · 10-07-2003, 06:05 PM

Aloha!

welcome to GFY.

BBWTori · 10-07-2003, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
Aloha!

welcome to GFY.

Aloha!!!

SureFire · 10-07-2003, 06:46 PM

BBWTori,

Checked out your site; popup hell. You may want to learn html.

Nas7782 · 10-07-2003, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FATPad
I would put more popups on your site.

(Sorry, I'm just tired of checking out amateur sites and ending up with 7 popups to toplists and other crap.)

I got some BBW traffics and bookmarkers, but I wouldn't want to send them to those popup hell.

Honeyslut · 10-07-2003, 07:17 PM

Tori,

Here is where you can link your site to. There are lots of links there

http://www.pornresource.com/guide.php?cat=8

Keep the popup hell and make a separate page for the affiliates if you have a program.

That is what I do. I keep the pop ups etc for the traffic that I create and send the affiliates to a tour with NO traffic leaks etc..

clubsexy · 10-07-2003, 07:28 PM

I am afraid to even look. Are the popups that bad gang?

StacyCat · 10-07-2003, 07:57 PM

Tori! Welcome to GFY! I see you have gotten the usual responce :-)

Popups suck. I havent seen the popups on your site, but I dislike them :-) try exit popups, or try putting the popups on a rotating basis (I can give you a script if you need one) but, I can see how they can bring traffic.

Im not a traffic queen, I know little about it!

But, guys, Tori is a very well respected magazine publisher, treat her with some respect! Not to mention, shes a damn fine BBW :-)

Tofu · 10-07-2003, 08:12 PM

damnit. I always come in late on the BBW threads....

Welcome Tori!

Sarah_Jayne · 10-07-2003, 08:47 PM

I can't actually get your site to load but I think I have seen you around. I certainly know Big Butt.

There is a BBW board..can hit me up if you aren't there already...might be a bit more open to helping.

Are your pop ups those pika pika things? I notice a lot of BBW sites have them and they drive me bonkers.

grogan · 10-07-2003, 08:58 PM

Welcome.

FFFFFFFATTY

Tofu · 10-07-2003, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sarah_webinc
Are your pop ups those pika pika things? I notice a lot of BBW sites have them and they drive me bonkers.

pickas = good traffic

gornyhuy · 10-07-2003, 09:19 PM

go to tomsnewbiebooster and voltar's and learn the basics of traffic generation and site design. When you have that working for you, start an affiliate program and of course, promote your site all over big butt magazine.

StacyCat · 10-07-2003, 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tofu-Adult.com

pickas = good traffic

Yeah, I get decent traffic from the picka site. However, they dont enforce their own rules, so people really abuse their popups (4 is their max, I know a few sites with 8-10 of the picka lists alone)

Fletch XXX · 10-07-2003, 09:27 PM

mmm big girls.

Abyss_Vee · 10-07-2003, 09:38 PM

i hope you dont have popups in your magazine

EZRhino · 10-07-2003, 10:14 PM

dougeetx · 10-07-2003, 11:13 PM

YGG!! Speaking for most black men, WE LOVE THOSE BIG OLE ASSES!!

Furious_Female · 10-07-2003, 11:44 PM

Being you have your own magazine, did you ever try putting your address in there? Free advertisement? You already have their attention and interest there, I'd imagine they'd visit your web site as well? I was always curious how print ads convert into web traffic. Offer them exlcusive content, that they can't see in the magazines.

GrimShawn · 10-07-2003, 11:47 PM

I know nothing

StacyCat · 10-08-2003, 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Furious_Female
I was always curious how print ads convert into web traffic.

tori would be much better to answer this, but I will throw in my hearsay into this.

From the girls that I have heard that have posed for big butt, they said they didnt really see big jumps in memberships or traffic to their sites. They did get a lot of mail to their mailboxes (if they disclosed them) and those that did videos and had paper catalogs did well.

Most guys that buy magazines are not going to join a porn site, even if our product makes more sense financially. But, I would assume they would be more likely to buy videos or other tangible items, since they have already bought a tangible item, we can assume they dont have to hide it too hard.

brizzad · 10-08-2003, 01:06 AM

1) don't call yourself a sista
2) sign up at my search engine, and ill credit you some ppc money to play with and get some targeted traffic. we don't get too many searches for bbw, but every little bit helps

quiet · 10-08-2003, 01:07 AM

'some girls are bigger than others'

Sarah_Jayne · 10-08-2003, 02:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tofu-Adult.com

pickas = good traffic

so I hear but last I checked they don't take avs sites and that is what I mostly do *shrug*

Sarah_Jayne · 10-08-2003, 02:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by StacyCat

Most guys that buy magazines are not going to join a porn site, even if our product makes more sense financially. But, I would assume they would be more likely to buy videos or other tangible items, since they have already bought a tangible item, we can assume they dont have to hide it too hard.

and that isn't even easy to do. I posed for a UK based BBW nudie mag a few years ago (called Belly) and watched as hey struggled to get into profit despite having a healthy subscriber base. He tried to really push videos but they didn't sell. His bbw dating line did better but still not enough.

Sarah_Jayne · 10-08-2003, 02:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
'some girls are bigger than others'

Some girl's mothers are bigger than Other girl's mothers...

being played tonight on my first radio show ;)

SomeCreep · 10-08-2003, 06:44 AM

50 hugs and kisses

10-07-2003, 04:35 PM	#1
BBWTori Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: AZ/NY Posts: 615	Big Gurls need love too!!! OK I am pretty new to all this so please be gentle I run an amateur adult niche web site called BBWTori.com The main model, you guessed it, is me and my girlfriends. Now here is my issue, I also run a successful print magazine that has been in existence for more than 8 years called BIG BUTT Magazine. We are second to none in sales, beating ALL other big girl magazines out there. My site is an extension of me and I am really unsure of where to go with it. I have had it on the web for like, 4 years but I was happy in my own little crowd, generating memberships that didn't really amount to much. ANYWAY here is my question to all you knowledgeable people out there. As for generating traffic...what can I do? I mean I KNOW there are big girl/BBW lovers out there, since my magazine sells so well, but HOW do I reach them on the web? Does anyone have any suggestions? I just did a redesign and I want to start fresh when generating traffic...can anyone help a sista out? __________________ Tori's Lair- Where Hot Fat Sex Reigns Supreme ICQ # 18495959

10-07-2003, 04:38 PM	#2
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NetRodent Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: In the walls of your house. Posts: 3,985	Why not ask your magazine subscribers where they go online? Here are a few other suggestions... 1. Search Engines 2. TGPs 3. Exit swaps with other BBW sites 4. Yahoo Groups (and similiar online communities) Before you start promoting yourself, take a good long look at your site. It needs some work. __________________ "Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." --H.L. Mencken Last edited by NetRodent; 10-07-2003 at 04:42 PM..

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BBWTori Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: AZ/NY Posts: 615	sheeeeeeeeeeeit! I knew I was gonna get some criticism, but damn! LOL Its all good, I got a THICK skin Anyways A) I am NOT spamming I am seriously looking for some ideas For those who sent me some cool suggestions THANKS ! A friend told me to check you guys out... B) I HATE THE POP UPS but right now its driving in the traffic for me since I really dont know what else to do... Thanks anyways __________________ Tori's Lair- Where Hot Fat Sex Reigns Supreme ICQ # 18495959

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StacyCat Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,167	Tori! Welcome to GFY! I see you have gotten the usual responce :-) Popups suck. I havent seen the popups on your site, but I dislike them :-) try exit popups, or try putting the popups on a rotating basis (I can give you a script if you need one) but, I can see how they can bring traffic. Im not a traffic queen, I know little about it! But, guys, Tori is a very well respected magazine publisher, treat her with some respect! Not to mention, shes a damn fine BBW :-)

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