Groove

I had been thinking about giving some work to adultoutsourcing.com. But I just had an ICQ chat with someone who says they got burned pretty badly by these guys. I was wondering if anyone has any comments about their experiences with adultoutsourcing.com -- good, bad, or indifferent?

johnbosh

never heard of them, you tried to search the board?

Groove

Yep there are other threads. But was interested in finding out about peoples recent experiences because I have been told that some people have had problems.

harvey

oopsie!


hey groove, do you want to encode your stolen videos with super-mpeg?

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Groove

They're already encoded with a patented soopa-doopa mpeggy codec. I'm personal friends with the genious who invented this amazing technology. And it's guaranteed 100% Acacia safe

WendyB

We used them until recently and chose not to renew. Our decision was due to their internal problems they seem to be having.

Information I have received indicates there may be a staff mutiny in the works.

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Dailydiapers

Never worked with adultoutcourcing.com but I've gotten great service from http://www.xxxoutsourcing.com/ I highly recomend them!

Mike

xxxoutsourcing

Hi,

We have some webmasters and desginers that are still available, numbers are limited.
If you have any questions I'm more than happy to help.
You can talk to me directly on ICQ: 1997467

Thanks

Greg

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pimplink

What kind of work do you need outsourced?

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Groove

Initially PHP/MySQL development and gallery submitting.
Later writing, sales and possibly web design.

Groove

Do you guys have any relationship with adultoutsourcing.com?
Your web sites are remarkably similar.

WendyB

I see both of you (Dailydiapers/XXXOUTSOUR...)
are posting from same IP address block?????

Couple questions for you.

What Country are your designers located?

Please describe your direct management and supervision of staff you have in place.

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prostock

First , wendy we are not in the same place as dailydiapers . He is in the USA , and as your old company you used i am in PI < I live here and I have lived here for over two years . I over see my workers along with my partner , at all times one of us is there all the time . I am as well a content maker and been doing content for a while .
I am very well knew of here .
FOR the ip matters , well i am behind firewalls and routers so i am very sure that will hide all

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prostock

we are not in any way the same company , and to me i am sorry i dont see where we look the same , other then the fact we both offer the same things ! that is about all .
I do know the owner there , and that is as far as it goes .
We are not here to bash them in any ways . We are two companys that happen to do the same thing that is all there is there !

THanks Jim

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Veterans Day

daily diapers and a new diaper paysite Hmmmmm coincidence LOL

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Groove

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If you need Paysites management solution with pre-developed professional designs fro your members areas, AdultWebware.com may help you.

We are always welcome for projects of any type as well.



I am always available for conversations of any kind here:

Email: [email protected]
MSN: [email protected]
ICQ: 166487010

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loverboy

i suggest you try to contact them and check them out for yourself. in fact, you may try them out 1 Week Free (No Charge/No Obligation). if you're not satisfied with their work after the trial period (which i think is the only the outsourcing company in the bizz which offers such Trial), then walk away, no question asked.

prostock

and GROOV i am glade to see you know how to use SEARCH , but next time jsut ask i will save you the time ok ! ! ! ! !


I will let you both on a few things ,
Lets start with Dailydaipers ,
maybe you should check the site the who is and so on and see who owns it , a Man from the USA does ,

We have been making content for him and his diaper sites for over a year !
Who ownes xxxdiaper sex I DO and my parnter and I have never tried to HIDE that , i do not try to hide it and havnt tried to . Many here know me and know that is one of OUR new sites .
Why do we have the site , me and the guy that owns dailydiapers became friends over the year i been making for him and he help me set the site up ! again nothing here to HIDE so please look else place if you think you wil find somthing here .

He also owns this site , that we are redoing to whole site for him
www.sexindiapers.com

and he owns diaperclub as well , and others . so please know more what you want to say ok .

go look at dailer diapers and all his sites and you will see we are by far differnt then that site !


and one last thing , just to keep you inform GROOV ,
i have 6 more sites opening very soon , i wil keep you on the heads up to save you time on the look ups ok ! :o)

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loverboy

i would not call it "staff mutiny", in the first place, there was no such mutiny at AOS, based on the information i got directly from them.

loverboy

Nice point. I can see some similar text used taken from AOS to describe their products/services.

http://www.xxxoutsourcing.com/solutions.html

Also, the word "Solutions" is misspelled. You may want to check that out.

lamrobertson

Based on the information you got from who?

prostock

you know i would hate to POST ICQ`s i get from you CLINTS !! , i am sure JAMES would HATE for me to do that , to show people maybe some , well alot of problems there , you want to come at me we can ,

and talk about a misspelled word


maybe you should read how this READS on your site !

If you are not happy with his work, the work is not what you expected, or just do want to continue for any reason what so ever, just tell us on day 7 and walk away.
Choose the right guy for you!

and you want to tell me about ONE MISSPELLED WORD PLEASE get a real life

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prostock

Based on he ether works there , or has a friend there , or based he is friends with the OWNER JAMES and they dont want alot of BAD Info out there that shouldnt be out there , so he wants all to try to look away and look at me in a bad way when there isnt a bad thing there to look at

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AWS Venus

Hi Groove,

If you don't find gallery submitters, feel free to check our site at http://www.adultwebmasterservices.com

I am sure we can work something out.

Dailydiapers

I think prostock answered everything quite well, but I'll post anyway

They have done great work for me over the last year and are really helping to increase my sales and retention rates. At some point, since he was shooting so much content for me, prostock figured out there must be a market for the pics and opened his own diaper site - which was fine with me. I own 5 large diaper-fetish sites and would still only have 2 sites without their help!

As for the IP thing, I find that highly doubtful since I am on a static RoadRunner IP from a Texas-based network, and pro ain't even in this country.

We're two seperate people, and my recomendation of them is quite honest.

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lamrobertson

lol I thought this thread was about adultoutsourcing

loverboy

i guess some people here just don't get it ...

btw, tnx for the chat

prostock

you are right you jsut dont get it do you !

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WendyB

Hummm. Maybe there is a better word, that would could be used. What you like to hear about our company experiance with them?

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The Other Steve

Groove - if your looking to have some written work done for your sites you are going to be much better served if you go to one of the specialists in written work.

Sin Text or Sex Story Text are two of the best out there.

In the interests of full disclosure I'm friends with the lady behind the first site and my partner is the lady behind the second site.

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Bucho

for what its worth - we were using adultoutsourcing for some time for some paysite projects we had going, we decided to stop using them (for reasons not related to their services). We were happy with them, the guy we had working for us (onaq) was a real quick learner, honest and hard working. Couldnt have asked for anything else.
The guys at AOS were quite pro to deal with, they contacted me quite often asking if everything was ok.

I have recently learned that the guy We had working for us isnt with AOS anymore, dont know why - however he didnt mention anything related to mutiny.

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WendyB

We too were happy with our designer, he also was a quick learner. In our case, it was decision of management to remove our designer from the account.

The staff mutiny comment refers to what I have now learned about the internal problems currently plaguing the Adult Outsourcing Company who operate in the Philippines.

According to Albert from Adult Outsourcing, several of their staff were suspected of creating their own outsourcing company from within the company.

As a now former AOS client, who is also mindful that sure it is a possibility when you have talented individuals who only make approximately US$200 per month.

Who could blame them for wanting more. As a client, we were always considerate of the labor policy/mentality there in the Philippines.

The straw that broke the camels back in our case was when they removed our designer, without notice. There was no problem with our designer, as he tackled his assignments and was able to speak fluent English. We are located in Seattle, and had provided our designer with a phone with a local Seattle phone number.

Please consider we spent a month training our outsourced designer, in our expectations and methodology. We declined their offer to provide us with a new staff person, as any reasonable person would conclude there would be a high risk considering their current internal problems.

At the time they pulled our designer he was in various stages of development on several ongoing projects. We acceept responsibility for and in hindsight should have retrieved the designers master (psd) files on a daily basis.

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Groove

I didn't say a word, all I did was cut/paste and laugh.

And I'm still laughing

Groove

WendyB, it does seem very strange that they'd sack your designer without consulting you. Did they offer any explanation as to why you were not consulted first?

Groove

Thanks for spamming my thread

prostock

Groov , any time you like to chat a minute please hit me up and the hell withthe other bull shit , hit me up for a short and we can chat ok

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WendyB

We were not consulted and/or alerted in any way they were having internal problems. If their management had communicated with us, we would have more sympathy towards their problem(s).

It was us that called them, looking for our designer... 2 hours after his shift was supposed to start. This should never have happened.

I must include the next day, adult outsourcing did offer to find us a new webmaster...however we declined.

It is inexcusable to make such a significant change without consulting us. After we had spent time and energy training the designer regarding our expectations and methods. At the time aos dismissed our designer, he was in various stages of development in graphic projects. Needless to say, we never received those files.

Again I must emphasize we had no problem with our designers performance. Our assigned designer was amazing.

I have been recently speaking with many people who either are potential clients, current Adult Outsourcing Clients or former clients. In addition I am currently seeking to speak with current and/or former Adult Outsourcing staff.

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prostock

Wendy , you cant realy say it is inexcusable with out knowing all the problems or reason that came to that and what happen to you and the worker , if you have a person stealing from ,( not saying this was happing ) and you own a company are you going to go around and ask the buyers , hey is it ok that we get fire this person he is rubbing us blind , I dont think so , and for the files gone , you ever think maybe the worker did some thing with it , maybe he was cought and basted in acts he wasnt to be doing so to be a dick he kills all work for all people on his way out the DOOR ! , you dont know all so be a little open minded .
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WendyB

I must admit that after seeing the post/reply from Prostock, I just about fell off my chair in laughter.
When a company markets its services, as to provide an assigned designer exclusively to purchasing client. Whereas the reasonable expectation is the (ADULT OUTSOURCING) company will make the assigned designer available during the agreed times.

When the company providing the above stated services fails to notify purchasing client of any direct or indirect interruption of services, is not only inexcusable, but highly unethical as well.

Here in America, there is no excuse that is acceptable as to the way AOS conducts business. Am I reasonable? YES. Am I open minded? YES.

As to prostock, this is a free country and the last time I checked, free speech was welcomed. You principals and/or business ethics may think it is acceptable for a company to create an adverse situation which effects a customer. I am sorry, I can't agree and didn't attend that school.

Do you run your company in such a negligent way?

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prostock

First lets not talk on HOW FREE THE USA is for you are losing more and more of the so called rights every day we all know this and to let you know i am from there .
I do not agree of how they didnt fully let you know what was going on there with you , for we would never do that , and at worse me or my partner would have been there to get the rest of the jobs done for you , and i would have made sure no lose work would haev happen . Again I am sure you do not know all that went on there and it is sad they had a problem , but jsut for it is here please do not tell me companys in the USA do not have probs ether

and for you to make this statment on ether end is not fair ! Do you run your company in such a negligent way!?


I will make this statment , and this is just from what i know , the reason the guys got fired and had a problem was from webmasters tring to PRIVIT there employes and the workers took it . and sorry to say we all know this , it can happen any where NO MATTER what country a company is in .
and not only this they was tring to make there own company inside within there , so you think they are so bad to fire the bad apples i think not , maybe think a bit more on it !

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pimplink

Maybe the best solution would be for task specific and time limited projects for outfits that have experience doing the specific task. Sounds like Adult Outsourcing tried to do too much in one package...while paying their employees (educated and experienced) only twice the minimum wage of the Philippines (based on DOLE stats at Google).

The problem with this, as WendyB's posts can attest to, is that the client ends up "educating" the assigned employee and there is no incentive for the employee to stick around.

Maybe the best way is to just pay per bundled task
ie., submissions, templates, paysite designs, etc.

The pay maybe cheap but there are ALWAYS costs involved. Im not saying don't pay cheap, just cover your ass by going to a cheap but quality specialist.

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lamrobertson

One of the big problems here is that the people running the company and the employees working there seem to think the people using their services are rich and can afford to be ripped off. Alot of the clients are 1 man operations, small webmasters trying to keep their head above water. They are people that are supporting their family and cannot afford to be ripped off.

I keep reading all this and increasingly getting pissed. The job of any outsource company is to manage those employees and manage them properly. They are in a supervised environment and should be being supervised.

For everyone thinking of oursourcing be very very careful. For any of you who are being approached by these independent self employed phillipinos that want offer their services, I would recommend that you stay away. There are several of designers that have surfaced that are employed by other companies or have been fired from other companies. They are working for multiple clients and lying to the clients about the amount of time it takes to complete a project. There is an incredible amount of greed going on here. These people are asking for twice what they were making from other oursource companies and then are collected from four or five different people. Then once they are working for you they appear to be slow because they can't possibly do all the work. I won't post the names but if you have been approached by someone and would like to verify the name with me contact me on icq 161212855. Its very easy to verify who they are. There are also several companies that have surfaced that are offering outsource services. These are the employees that were fired! And they are doing exactly what they were fired for. They will take you on as a client and one webmaster/designer will be doing work for multiple clients or working for another outsource company.

pimplink

Excellent points. Moral of the story: focus on task specific services instead of trying to score your own personal Filipino/Indian/Thai OOMPA LOOMPA

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lamrobertson

Well I am sure there are probably people who have sucessfully outsourced to individuals in there countries. But I want everyone to be forewarned of this group of phillipinos that are ripping people off.


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prostock,

Why are you defending a competitor, Adult Outsourcing?

scoreman

OOMPA LOOMPA

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Prostock,

Isn't the owner of AOS named JOHN not james?

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Right on, somebody else saw "Charlie and Chocolate Factory" -- Willy Wonka rulez!!!

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