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iroc409 · 10-03-2003, 10:48 AM

come on pansies, get with the program.

some of the bigger boxes could replace entire data centers

http://www.as400.ibm.com/

sync · 10-03-2003, 10:50 AM

And what happens when the drunk night admin trips over the power cords ;)

RedBumper · 10-03-2003, 10:50 AM

Disk (maximum)
144 TB

Anybody got some content to fill a members area?

iroc409 · 10-03-2003, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sync
And what happens when the drunk night admin trips over the power cords ;)

they come with a ups. actually, the older models actually had the ups BUILT INTO the box. fucking shit those things were heavy, i helped move one once. i think the sticker on it said 45kg, or more, or something, it was fucking heavy. took 2 of us to move it, and that was a SMALL one.

i've got a small box that was just before they started using RISC. it doesn't have the internal ups, but the thing is still a fucking bitch to move, and has to be about 80lbs.

skillfull · 10-03-2003, 10:55 AM

this is newbie stuff, lets play with something big

http://www.sgi.com/origin/3000/overview.html

iroc409 · 10-03-2003, 10:57 AM

yeah, and you know what else rocks? i bet your pc server doesn't do this.

the fucker will email you when it has impending problems - which isn't likely in the first place - and give you an entire listing of how to fix it, alternatives, etc.

and if that's not enough, some of the more expensive models will fix themselves (as long as it's not hardware, of course).

it is impossible for them to get a virus.

the power is truly amazing. mind boggling. where i worked a couple years back, we had a smaller model (much bigger than mine, but still about the size of a refrigerator). it ran 30 retail stores, and a couple wholesale locations that were full of people. god knows how many terminals that was... all running off the same box.

and that machine was a _drip in the bucket_ as far as power was concerned. we looked it up at the time. in reference, that box was kinda like comparing a 433 celeron to a dual zeon 3.2.

iroc409 · 10-03-2003, 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by skillfull
this is newbie stuff, lets play with something big

http://www.sgi.com/origin/3000/overview.html

i *almost* bought a fucking cray off ebay, but i had absolutely no idea what to do with it.

but i'm curious, what the fuck do you do with 256gb of ram??

skillfull · 10-03-2003, 10:58 AM

analyse some meteorologic data ? :P

skillfull · 10-03-2003, 11:00 AM

top 500 supercomputer of the world

http://www.top500.org/list/2003/06/?page

swedguy · 10-03-2003, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by iroc409

they come with a ups. actually, the older models actually had the ups BUILT INTO the box. fucking shit those things were heavy, i helped move one once. i think the sticker on it said 45kg, or more, or something, it was fucking heavy. took 2 of us to move it, and that was a SMALL one.

i've got a small box that was just before they started using RISC. it doesn't have the internal ups, but the thing is still a fucking bitch to move, and has to be about 80lbs.

45kg is only 100 pounds

iroc409 · 10-03-2003, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by skillfull
analyse some meteorologic data ? :P

the as/400 is much more comfortable as a web server, compared to some of the other big computing boxes, just as those computing boxes would make a fairly shitty server relatively, but can crunch some serious #'s.

although, about a year and a half ago or so, there was a company i believe out in california that ordered a 400, and its specs were going to place it in the top 10 fastest computers in the world.

Quote:

Processor performance
3600-37400 CPW

i can't remember exactly how those numbers correspond, but believe me, 37400 cpw is fucking INSANE. i think the box we had was around 500 or less (i could be wrong.. that was quite some time ago). probably around a $2mil box, roughly.

iroc409 · 10-03-2003, 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by swedguy
45kg is only 100 pounds

i actually thought it said 80kg, but since i'm not real familiar with metric wieghts, i figured that was absurdly heavy.

skillfull · 10-03-2003, 11:04 AM

kind of thing you only dream of

this is the fastest computer on earth

NetRodent · 10-03-2003, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by iroc409
but i'm curious, what the fuck do you do with 256gb of ram??

You keep your databases on a ram disk.

swedguy · 10-03-2003, 11:07 AM

My vote goes to......

Sun Enterprise 10000

iroc409 · 10-03-2003, 11:07 AM

i bet that plays half-life really well.

Ray@TastyDollars · 10-03-2003, 11:08 AM

Im cuming!

http://www-132.ibm.com/content/home/...825/index.html

$574,224.00

iroc409 · 10-03-2003, 11:09 AM

http://www-132.ibm.com/content/home/...890/index.html

nothing beats ibm.

Ray@TastyDollars · 10-03-2003, 11:10 AM

Its as easy as adding to cart

http://www-132.ibm.com/content/home/...nterprise.html

swedguy · 10-03-2003, 11:12 AM

I guess I've been out ouf the loop for too long.

Sun Fire 15K looks quite nice.

- Up to 106 UltraSPARC III Cu processors
- Over 1/2 TB of memory
- Over 250 TB of storage
- Up to 18 Dynamic System Domains

Priced from $547,090.00.

http://store.sun.com/catalog/doc/Bro...html?cid=70636

with 72 U III's - $2,661,730

OUCH

iroc409 · 10-03-2003, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by swedguy
I guess I've been out ouf the loop for too long.

Sun Fire 15K looks quite nice.

- Up to 106 UltraSPARC III Cu processors
- Over 1/2 TB of memory
- Over 250 TB of storage
- Up to 18 Dynamic System Domains

Priced from $547,090.00.

http://store.sun.com/catalog/doc/Bro...html?cid=70636

with 72 U III's - $2,661,730

OUCH

i was kinda thinking the ultrasparc 2 proc was outdated...

DrGuile · 10-03-2003, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by iroc409
i bet that plays half-life really well.

lol, I would bet it doesnt.

Ray@TastyDollars · 10-03-2003, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by swedguy

http://store.sun.com/catalog/doc/Bro...html?cid=70636

with 72 U III's - $2,661,730

OUCH

Im cuming again, thx

Project-Shadow · 10-03-2003, 11:23 AM

You know if you installed windows on that it would run about as fast as a snail on speed

webair · 10-03-2003, 11:23 AM

commodore 64 baby - 64k blazing

iroc409 · 10-03-2003, 11:23 AM

if you wanna be hip, sounds like you gotta go zseries.

iroc409 · 10-03-2003, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Project-Shadow
You know if you installed windows on that it would run about as fast as a snail on speed

you don't run windows. you run *nix on top of os/400 if you like, tho.

unconnected · 10-03-2003, 01:18 PM

Nothing beats IBM?
Do you have a clue how much an SGI machine runs for?
The SGI setup and processors run circles around IBM's machines.. Not saying that IBM is bad, far from it, but if you want to go toe to toe power wise, the SGI machines wipe the floor with anything on the planet..

You want to talk price? Those bad boys run up in the millions and millions of dollars, and have Memory in the terrabytes in a cluster..

Yuo can't touch SGI when it comes to pure power, nothing can and nothing has been able to in a while..

EZRhino · 10-03-2003, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by skillfull
this is newbie stuff, lets play with something big
http://www.sgi.com/origin/3000/overview.html

I just nutted on my screen!!!

nobull · 10-03-2003, 01:28 PM

kinda funny that people think that sites with MAJOR traffic run huge computers. I was the system architect for a really large company that has web traffic like you could only dream about...and the key is this:

twice as many small web servers as you need
and a 3 million $ EMC mass storage SIM.

I think the largest server was a dell poweredge 2 Ghz with 1 GB ram.

The other thing is that it was a 100% microsoft environment.

RedBumper · 10-03-2003, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by skillfull

kind of thing you only dream of
this is the fastest computer on earth

Does this thing operate with just one keyboard, screen and mouse? Does it run Windows 3.11?

Evil1 · 10-03-2003, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ray
Its as easy as adding to cart

http://www-132.ibm.com/content/home/...nterprise.html

Lease for $15,176.74/mo. for 36 months**

My fucking cart will fucking stay fucking empty.. thank you.

RedBumper · 10-03-2003, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Evil1

My fucking cart will fucking stay fucking empty.. thank you.

10 Words, 3 times fucking..... that's 33.3% fucking. I don't want to have an argument with you

j/k

NetRodent · 10-03-2003, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by unconnected
Nothing beats IBM?
Do you have a clue how much an SGI machine runs for?
The SGI setup and processors run circles around IBM's machines.. Not saying that IBM is bad, far from it, but if you want to go toe to toe power wise, the SGI machines wipe the floor with anything on the planet..

You want to talk price? Those bad boys run up in the millions and millions of dollars, and have Memory in the terrabytes in a cluster..

Yuo can't touch SGI when it comes to pure power, nothing can and nothing has been able to in a while..

SGI machines are nice but not in quite the same league as some of the machines IBM has built. Check out the Top 500 Supercomputers list. IBM has two of the top 5 spots. SGI's top machine appears to be ranked at around 300.

iroc409 · 10-03-2003, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NetRodent

SGI machines are nice but not in quite the same league as some of the machines IBM has built. Check out the Top 500 Supercomputers list. IBM has two of the top 5 spots. SGI's top machine appears to be ranked at around 300.

if you look in the top 100 for html, ibm has the majority of those spots

imagine, a machine that's not even built for number crunching hardly at all, is in the top 10 (or was at the time) fastest in the world. and yes, it was a several million dollar computer

iroc409 · 10-03-2003, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nobull
kinda funny that people think that sites with MAJOR traffic run huge computers. I was the system architect for a really large company that has web traffic like you could only dream about...and the key is this:

twice as many small web servers as you need
and a 3 million $ EMC mass storage SIM.

I think the largest server was a dell poweredge 2 Ghz with 1 GB ram.

The other thing is that it was a 100% microsoft environment.

you generally don't need a huge fancy computer to run a website. to buy a $500k as400 and run 1 website is pretty much a waste.

you take a data center of 1500 unix servers, and replace them with one as400. and have better uptime.

there was a rumor running around a few years back. i can't accredit at all, my boss claimed it came from a good source, but who knows.

apparently at the time microsoft was running on the as400, the had 2 or 3 of them running their main networks.

they decided that they should be running their products, and changed over to 1300 NT servers.

the project was too buggy, had too many errors so they switched back to the as400.

again, i can't verify it. i'd take that most likely as hearsay. but ibm makes extremely nice computers. i've seen only fractions of what these machines can do, and it's amazing.

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