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View Poll Results: If you live in the USA, do you consider yourself an "American"?
I'm proud to be an American and I proudly wave my flag. 27 52.94%
I'm not patriotic -- I just live here, for whatever reason. 15 29.41%
I don't live in the USA. 9 17.65%
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Old 10-02-2003, 12:02 PM   #1
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If you live in the USA, do you consider yourself a "American"?

I bet if this poll was taken yearly over the internet, you would find that communications technology is really killing off patriotism...

This GFY poll just proves my point.
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Old 10-02-2003, 12:21 PM   #2
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If you vote -- please bump this damn thing...
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Old 10-02-2003, 12:22 PM   #3
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This should be titled as "Worst Poll Ever".
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Old 10-02-2003, 12:22 PM   #4
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I am american born and after some things that just happened to my family I can not wait to leave.


This country is going down hill fast!
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Old 10-02-2003, 12:23 PM   #5
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I am american born and after some things that just happened to my family I can not wait to leave.


This country is going down hill fast!
I agree! Bush is really fucking it up!

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Old 10-02-2003, 12:29 PM   #7
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This should be titled as "Worst Poll Ever".
Why? I think it's a serious question...
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Old 10-02-2003, 12:34 PM   #8
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I am american born and after some things that just happened to my family I can not wait to leave.


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Old 10-02-2003, 12:34 PM   #9
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I agree! Bush is really fucking it up!

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I keep seeing these brain dead responses with no logical reasons
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Old 10-02-2003, 12:44 PM   #10
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communications technology is really killing off patriotism.
Interesting point.

The Internet is a huge eye-opener. Many good discussions about controversial stuff. And maybe - just maybe - Americans will become more interested in how things are done elsewhere. An example: Comparisons between USA and Canada/Australia/Europe concerning guns, politics, distribution of wealth, education, health care, etc, etc.
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Interesting point.

The Internet is a huge eye-opener. Many good discussions about controversial stuff. And maybe - just maybe - Americans will become more interested in how things are done elsewhere. An example: Comparisons between USA and Canada/Australia/Europe concerning guns, politics, distribution of wealth, education, health care, etc, etc.
It's interesting that everyone assumes:

1. Americans who don't like/agree with the way other countries do things, must be ignorant.
(I've lived in the UK and Australia, and I would NEVER want to live under their systems for guns, politics, distribution of wealth, education, health care, etc... ever again!)

2. That people living outside the US are somehow better informed and less influenced by their own media and provincial views than Americans are.
(heck, in Italy, 6 out of the 7 TV channels that broadcast news in the country are directly owned by the Prime minister personally. One man, Rupert Murdock, owns virutally ALL of the news sources in Australia, and he certainly has an agenda. The Royal Navy was so disgusted by the BBCs blatant slant, and refusal to cover stories about the war that didn't follow the BBCs views, that they stopped showing it on their ships)

The average citizen in the EU is born, raised, and dies within 30 miles of the same spot......but somehow, they AREN"T provincial?

The rest of the world needs to give everybody a break. The only reason that you think that the US is so ignorant and you're not is that we are held up to world view EVERY DAY. If the rest of the world population was scrutinized just a closely, you would find that ALL of the countries have ignorant, provincial, narrow-minded, uniformed, zenophobic people that make up a majority
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Old 10-02-2003, 02:16 PM   #12
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Americans will become more interested in how things are done elsewhere.
or how the things that America does is viewed by others.

The media in any country is very much... well, patriotic. They show what they want their people to see. You hear about all the victories and casualties but not the under lying things that your gov't doesn't want you to know about.

Happens everywhere, same with Canada.

However, some other country's news isn't shy about showing it.... so in Canada, we hear bad things about us in the US news, and in the US, you'd hear about things about your country in the Canadian news.

Viewing your own country through the eyes of the rest of the world can be a huge eye opener
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Old 10-02-2003, 04:11 PM   #16
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I don't consider myself American even if I live here !
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Interesting results... I'm not feeling up to doing calculations yet, but it looks like > 1/3 of pornographers aren't patriotic... It might be worth doing this survey on a larger scale on an ongoing basis and then graph the results...
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Old 10-02-2003, 07:26 PM   #18
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or how the things that America does is viewed by others.

The media in any country is very much... well, patriotic. They show what they want their people to see. You hear about all the victories and casualties but not the under lying things that your gov't doesn't want you to know about.

Happens everywhere, same with Canada.

However, some other country's news isn't shy about showing it.... so in Canada, we hear bad things about us in the US news, and in the US, you'd hear about things about your country in the Canadian news.

Viewing your own country through the eyes of the rest of the world can be a huge eye opener
I don't think we get any Canadian news.
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I think what would be more interesting to find out is how many of the flag wavers could pass even a basic US history exam.

The woefully ignorant are always patriotic and universities are packed with leftists.

I wonder why that is.
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Old 10-02-2003, 08:15 PM   #22
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I bet if this poll was taken yearly over the internet, you would find that communications technology is really killing off patriotism...

This GFY poll just proves my point.
i think it goes a little deeper and beyond just communications technology... patriotism has been in a downward spiral for a while now
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Most people I meet are stupidly patriotic. I don't go around waving a flag because I see our country as a work in progress. I don't really feel like we are a free country yet. Not when our prisons are full of pot smokers and smut peddlers. They day we decriminalize drugs and porn becomes so mainstream it's on late night public TV, then I'll wave the flag and be proud to be an American.
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I think what would be more interesting to find out is how many of the flag wavers could pass even a basic US history exam.

The woefully ignorant are always patriotic and universities are packed with leftists.

I wonder why that is.
The reason that the universities are packed with leftists is because in the university enviroment they don't have to deal with the real world, just dreams and ideals that don't hold up in day to day life. They don't have to run a business, they don't fight to defend their country and their freedoms, They don't even have to compete with anyone to make their livelyhood once they get tenured. They generally cruise along making up these unrealistic senarios as to how things SHOULD work with a barely disguised contempt for those in society how have to compete and struggle in the real world.
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