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Jimbo 10-02-2003 01:58 PM

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Originally posted by Meloman
Bump.

Newbies and even midbies should read this. There's a lot of good info here especially WiredGuys posts :thumbsup

I second that, I'll give cashquest2 a try :Graucho

Meloman 10-02-2003 02:00 PM

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Originally posted by WiredGuy
Thanks Meloman :thumbsup
No prob bro. I've read a lot of your posts and you definitely know your shit. If you're in Vegas in January we have to hook up for a drink and shoot the shit. :thumbsup

WiredGuy 10-02-2003 02:10 PM

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Originally posted by Meloman
No prob bro. I've read a lot of your posts and you definitely know your shit. If you're in Vegas in January we have to hook up for a drink and shoot the shit. :thumbsup
I've been there last 3 years, so I definitely see myself going back in January, see you there. Cheers :glugglug

WG

S.L.L.D 10-02-2003 02:21 PM

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Originally posted by WiredGuy


There's so many sponsors out there that it only takes a matter of time before finding out which ones will convert best or not. I typically look for the bigger, more respectable companies and those that have multiple billers (cascading options) as well as payout on multiple billing methods (dialers and checks for example). But in general, getting 1:100 is not too difficult, at least not from my traffic.

WG

I am not saying it can't be done, but if you filter to the extreme you cannot send that traffic to just any sponsor. The very act of filtering implies narrowing options. If you can send your same SE traffic to 15 different sponsors, filtering was poorly done.

WiredGuy 10-02-2003 02:26 PM

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Originally posted by S.L.L.D
I am not saying it can't be done, but if you filter to the extreme you cannot send that traffic to just any sponsor. The very act of filtering implies narrowing options. If you can send your same SE traffic to 15 different sponsors, filtering was poorly done.
That's true. Like say an escort site for example, there's only a handful that come to mind like USAEscorts, HotLocalEscorts and EvilEscorts. There should only be a few options available once you filter it down well enough but if that's the case, usually conversions will be pretty good.

WG

Meloman 10-02-2003 02:48 PM

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Originally posted by S.L.L.D


I am not saying it can't be done, but if you filter to the extreme you cannot send that traffic to just any sponsor. The very act of filtering implies narrowing options. If you can send your same SE traffic to 15 different sponsors, filtering was poorly done.

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Originally posted by WiredGuy


That's true. Like say an escort site for example, there's only a handful that come to mind like USAEscorts, HotLocalEscorts and EvilEscorts. There should only be a few options available once you filter it down well enough but if that's the case, usually conversions will be pretty good.

WG

I agree with both of you. If you overfilter then you can waste traffic. It makes more sense to get 15 sales from 1 escort sponsor than 1 sale each from 15 sponsors (if the ratio is the same with each).

I personally have never tried filtering down to a niche and then offering several sponsors in that niche on the same page. I have the sponsors I like to push and I filter down to the appropriate niche and then there's usually 1 option for said sponsor. This way all my traffic goes to just a few sponsors and I can hit all there bonuses etc..

I basically filter through using FPA pages and consoles. So when traffic comes from a SE they hit an FPA page geared to what they were searching for. There may also be some extra options on the bottom in a table that go to other niche fpa's. And then there's exit consoles that show lots of other niches. And again everything leads to an FPA. My final click to the sponsor is always through a big fpa ad.

So I basically circle my traffic around untill they finally feel like going to a sponsor OR I end up sending them somewhere to trade the traffic out (top list, fake tgp etc..).

When done right filtering is fun. Especially if you can get it down to the point where you're able to get "something" from everyone...whether it's a sale or trading the traffic out for fresh traffic...

WiredGuy 10-02-2003 02:52 PM

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Originally posted by Meloman
When done right filtering is fun. Especially if you can get it down to the point where you're able to get "something" from everyone...whether it's a sale or trading the traffic out for fresh traffic...
That's when I become suicidal. Getting borderline cases like "redhead lesbians". Obviously there are no sites that have redheaded lesbian girls so does that guy wanna see a redheaded girl or a lesbian site. This is where I go nuts trying to figure out which niche these borderline cases belong in!

WG

Meloman 10-02-2003 02:56 PM

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Originally posted by WiredGuy


That's when I become suicidal. Getting borderline cases like "redhead lesbians". Obviously there are no sites that have redheaded lesbian girls so does that guy wanna see a redheaded girl or a lesbian site. This is where I go nuts trying to figure out which niche these borderline cases belong in!

WG

ROFLMAO :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

I totally know what you mean, lol

WiredGuy 10-02-2003 02:59 PM

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Originally posted by Meloman
ROFLMAO :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

I totally know what you mean, lol

:1orglaugh

Those are the days I come home and look like I wanna kill someone :)

WG

jerry_31 10-02-2003 03:34 PM

...do you get better results by sending them through a FPA page instead of redirecting them straight to the targeted niche paysite ?




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Originally posted by Meloman


I agree with both of you. If you overfilter then you can waste traffic. It makes more sense to get 15 sales from 1 escort sponsor than 1 sale each from 15 sponsors (if the ratio is the same with each).

I personally have never tried filtering down to a niche and then offering several sponsors in that niche on the same page. I have the sponsors I like to push and I filter down to the appropriate niche and then there's usually 1 option for said sponsor. This way all my traffic goes to just a few sponsors and I can hit all there bonuses etc..

I basically filter through using FPA pages and consoles. So when traffic comes from a SE they hit an FPA page geared to what they were searching for. There may also be some extra options on the bottom in a table that go to other niche fpa's. And then there's exit consoles that show lots of other niches. And again everything leads to an FPA. My final click to the sponsor is always through a big fpa ad.

So I basically circle my traffic around untill they finally feel like going to a sponsor OR I end up sending them somewhere to trade the traffic out (top list, fake tgp etc..).

When done right filtering is fun. Especially if you can get it down to the point where you're able to get "something" from everyone...whether it's a sale or trading the traffic out for fresh traffic...


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Meloman 10-02-2003 03:45 PM

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Originally posted by jerry_31
...do you get better results by sending them through a FPA page instead of redirecting them straight to the targeted niche paysite ?





I do both. An FPA page is going to have a better chance at SE rankings than some sort of redirect page that could possibly get you banned. Plus with the FPA page you are able to give the surfer a sales pitch before you send them off. This way you prequalify the surfer first. I also have a very targeted exit chain off the FPA's. At the end of the chain I pop a Top List which therefore gets me fresh traffic back.

Try both ways and see which one converts better. Sometimes if the incoming hit is so highly targted and you offer them the right site from the get go then redirecting works out well.

For example I have a java script that redircts to a sponsor url but first drops a blur console on the way there. This way I have a blur console waiting for the surfer after they are done with said sponsor. I've had these redirect pages get picked up by the SE's and the conversions kick ass. BUT the search term I'm ranking for is the PaySite name so therefore no pre-selling is required (this is a golden nugget piece of info .:Graucho )


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