OK, It's October, what are the per-signup guys doing to reduce chargebacks? - GoFuckYourself.com

Lensman · 10-01-2003, 08:26 AM

Ours is below 1%, I think you guys have seen the changes we've done. What changes have you seen from the other guys?

Has anyone elimated free trials? Lowering rebill amounts and payouts?

AaronM · 10-01-2003, 08:27 AM

We lowered our rebills by 13 cents and somehow managed to keep our payouts the same.

InsaneGreen · 10-01-2003, 08:33 AM

my main sponser cut my payouts by almost $700 a month....
and im sure im just a little guy. makes ya wonder if they payouts needed to be dropped that much.

Juicy D. Links · 10-01-2003, 08:37 AM

We are beta testing this, so far good results

doober · 10-01-2003, 08:42 AM

lol @ juicy, this should be an interesting thread...

strobi · 10-01-2003, 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by juicylinks
We are beta testing this, so far good results

hehehe

avion · 10-01-2003, 08:51 AM

I experience a paycut with some of the sponsors I am using...others are trying to keep the free trials...so far nothing really big...

thank you
Avion

J.R. · 10-01-2003, 09:49 AM

We are well below the 1%.

I don't think people realize how IMPORTANT this
issue really is.

BradShaw · 10-01-2003, 09:52 AM

Lensman, several of the big guys are up to monkey business (of course). I am not going to call anyone out, but lets just say people have been very creative and called in help from "family and friends".

GTS Mark · 10-01-2003, 09:57 AM

Hasn't affected me at all... Not to brag but when you send a shitload of signups you can demand higher payouts.

DH

Serge_Oprano · 10-01-2003, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw
Lensman, several of the big guys are up to monkey business (of course). I am not going to call anyone out, but lets just say people have been very creative and called in help from "family and friends".

Brad "doesn't call anyone" anymore???

What happened to you, man?????
;-)))

HarlotCash Dyker · 10-01-2003, 10:07 AM

Our chargebacks have never been a problem to us -
Currently .02%
We offer tials only as a last resort sale - (if the surfer closes the sign up page without joining for a month, he is offered a three day trial.)
We do not use plug ins - Relying solely on our own produced content and getting loads of feedback from our members works well. We add around 300-500 new images a day - So we give them plenty of what they want - Works for us.

pimplink · 10-01-2003, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw
Lensman, several of the big guys are up to monkey business (of course). I am not going to call anyone out, but lets just say people have been very creative and called in help from "family and friends".

Care to elaborate on this?

BradShaw · 10-01-2003, 10:12 AM

Serge, I save my ammo.

brand0n · 10-01-2003, 10:14 AM

a couple friends of mine are worried sick.. we will all see how this goes for everyone in a matter of time

BradShaw · 10-01-2003, 10:17 AM

I can not be the only one who figured out the games people are up to, hoping to get around visa. Open your eyes, you can not miss it.

pimplink · 10-01-2003, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw
I can not be the only one who figured out the games people are up to, hoping to get around visa. Open your eyes, you can not miss it.

I see... the recent promos aimed at boosting transactions to minimize chargebacks. Im sure there are more "tricks" than this.

Dax · 10-01-2003, 10:19 AM

I have noticed a lot of ppl talking and doing something about it.. somehow... maxcash has not done anything or said anything about it.. it seems as if that company is running by itself.. no reality sites like most ppl... no updates on the 1%... weird...

Anyone get info from them?

BradShaw · 10-01-2003, 10:24 AM

I would suspect Max Cash is ok with the 1%. They have never billed aggressively, or done much cross selling. I know for us, before we started to buy cross sells, our CB's were under .7%.

Paul Markham · 10-01-2003, 10:25 AM

I was talking to a guy who earns a living putting up TGP pages, he said some of his sponsors are already getting refusals when they try to rebill the member, anyone know anything about that?

Or was he just BSing me?

RichC · 10-01-2003, 11:40 AM

The Offendale sites that MaxCash sends traffic to have never been aggressive, never relied on the double and triple cross sell methods and have been up front to the consumer.

would like to add

Also MaxCash is very proactive in developing methods which catch affiliate fraud well before they turn into chargebacks. No issues here. Nothing has changed.

SGS · 10-01-2003, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly
I was talking to a guy who earns a living putting up TGP pages, he said some of his sponsors are already getting refusals when they try to rebill the member, anyone know anything about that?

Or was he just BSing me?

Interesting...

Shok · 10-01-2003, 11:51 AM

I will rebill 50 cents twice a day for 30 days per member

grogan · 10-01-2003, 11:52 AM

For my only billable one I own, I offer a free dvd after 3 months and also include a $1/month membership billed seperately.

That site has waaaaay below 1%. Sorry, no affiliate program.

Darren · 10-01-2003, 11:56 AM

i think most people who ran thigns properly are below 1% eg no tricks etc and everything up front...

We are at 0.2% at moment.

10-01-2003, 08:26 AM	#1
Lensman GFY Chaperone Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Adult.com Posts: 9,846	OK, It's October, what are the per-signup guys doing to reduce chargebacks? Ours is below 1%, I think you guys have seen the changes we've done. What changes have you seen from the other guys? Has anyone elimated free trials? Lowering rebill amounts and payouts?

10-01-2003, 08:33 AM	#3
InsaneGreen Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: southern california Posts: 996	my main sponser cut my payouts by almost $700 a month.... and im sure im just a little guy. makes ya wonder if they payouts needed to be dropped that much. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

10-01-2003, 09:52 AM	#9
BradShaw Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: KB's trailer Posts: 7,840	Lensman, several of the big guys are up to monkey business (of course). I am not going to call anyone out, but lets just say people have been very creative and called in help from "family and friends". __________________ Sig too big http://www.gofuckyourself.com/gfy_faqs.html Want to use a large banner in your sig??? Contact Eric about getting on as an advertiser - eric AT adult.com

10-01-2003, 10:07 AM	#12
HarlotCash Dyker Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: At a whorehouse near you Posts: 1,828	Our chargebacks have never been a problem to us - Currently .02% We offer tials only as a last resort sale - (if the surfer closes the sign up page without joining for a month, he is offered a three day trial.) We do not use plug ins - Relying solely on our own produced content and getting loads of feedback from our members works well. We add around 300-500 new images a day - So we give them plenty of what they want - Works for us. __________________ !!!Harlot Cash<<>>Harlot Cash<<>>Harlot Cash<<>>Harlot Cash!!!

10-01-2003, 10:12 AM	#14
BradShaw Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: KB's trailer Posts: 7,840	Serge, I save my ammo. __________________ Sig too big http://www.gofuckyourself.com/gfy_faqs.html Want to use a large banner in your sig??? Contact Eric about getting on as an advertiser - eric AT adult.com

10-01-2003, 08:27 AM	#2
AaronM Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: ┌∩┐ ◣_◢ ┌∩┐ Posts: 46,909	We lowered our rebills by 13 cents and somehow managed to keep our payouts the same.

10-01-2003, 08:37 AM	#4
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	We are beta testing this, so far good results

10-01-2003, 08:42 AM	#5
doober Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: in yoOoo kitchen Posts: 6,984	lol @ juicy, this should be an interesting thread...

10-01-2003, 08:51 AM	#7
avion Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: right next to u Posts: 1,403	I experience a paycut with some of the sponsors I am using...others are trying to keep the free trials...so far nothing really big... thank you Avion

10-01-2003, 09:49 AM	#8
J.R. WantBoobs.com Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Calif & Washington Posts: 3,472	We are well below the 1%. I don't think people realize how IMPORTANT this issue really is.

10-01-2003, 09:57 AM	#10
GTS Mark Vrume Mark Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 20,912	Hasn't affected me at all... Not to brag but when you send a shitload of signups you can demand higher payouts. DH

10-01-2003, 10:14 AM	#15
brand0n been very busy Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: the queen city Posts: 26,983	a couple friends of mine are worried sick.. we will all see how this goes for everyone in a matter of time __________________ want to buy this spot for cheap? it is of course for sale. long term deals are always the best bet. brand0n/ at/ a o l dot commies.

10-01-2003, 10:17 AM	#16
BradShaw Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: KB's trailer Posts: 7,840	I can not be the only one who figured out the games people are up to, hoping to get around visa. Open your eyes, you can not miss it. __________________ Sig too big http://www.gofuckyourself.com/gfy_faqs.html Want to use a large banner in your sig??? Contact Eric about getting on as an advertiser - eric AT adult.com

10-01-2003, 10:19 AM	#18
Dax Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: USA Posts: 3,161	I have noticed a lot of ppl talking and doing something about it.. somehow... maxcash has not done anything or said anything about it.. it seems as if that company is running by itself.. no reality sites like most ppl... no updates on the 1%... weird... Anyone get info from them?

10-01-2003, 10:24 AM	#19
BradShaw Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: KB's trailer Posts: 7,840	I would suspect Max Cash is ok with the 1%. They have never billed aggressively, or done much cross selling. I know for us, before we started to buy cross sells, our CB's were under .7%. __________________ Sig too big http://www.gofuckyourself.com/gfy_faqs.html Want to use a large banner in your sig??? Contact Eric about getting on as an advertiser - eric AT adult.com

10-01-2003, 10:25 AM	#20
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	I was talking to a guy who earns a living putting up TGP pages, he said some of his sponsors are already getting refusals when they try to rebill the member, anyone know anything about that? Or was he just BSing me? __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

10-01-2003, 11:40 AM	#21
RichC Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: by ocean Posts: 368	The Offendale sites that MaxCash sends traffic to have never been aggressive, never relied on the double and triple cross sell methods and have been up front to the consumer. would like to add Also MaxCash is very proactive in developing methods which catch affiliate fraud well before they turn into chargebacks. No issues here. Nothing has changed. __________________ I brought the flutes this time Last edited by RichC; 10-01-2003 at 11:44 AM..

10-01-2003, 11:51 AM	#23
Shok Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: LIVE EVIL Posts: 5,611	I will rebill 50 cents twice a day for 30 days per member

10-01-2003, 11:52 AM	#24
grogan So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: CHICAGO Posts: 2,284	For my only billable one I own, I offer a free dvd after 3 months and also include a $1/month membership billed seperately. That site has waaaaay below 1%. Sorry, no affiliate program.

10-01-2003, 11:56 AM	#25
Darren Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,994	i think most people who ran thigns properly are below 1% eg no tricks etc and everything up front... We are at 0.2% at moment. __________________ Penis enlargement / male enhancement pills - earn up to $229.48 per signup ICQ: 46335817