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gooddomains 09-30-2003 12:58 PM

If that was a typo, why do the meta tags contain "preteen"? This is not funny, because typos like that is what makes it so hard to convince VISA/MC to continue billing.

JSA Matt 09-30-2003 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by carbon5
It was just a typo - ive made no reference to her being undarage on the site. this was an honest typo i made the change two days ago and did not realize i made the error until you guys started attacking the site, now im probably going to have to switch to a different billing company because of this stupid error.
this sucks

Judging by the meta tags and links to other sites, this was no typo.

Edit: Your meta tags are so blatent it's funny...

"free preteen underage galleries model dani"
"13 to 19 teen chat"
"miss teen usa"
"preteen model"
"pre teen model"
"child super model"
"playboy,deep throat,anal,cute,underage,preteen,barbie"

Dude you're so busted. I hope you go to jail and I hope Playboy, Barbi, and Miss Teen USA sue your ass.

Sly_RJ 09-30-2003 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by carbon5
It was just a typo - ive made no reference to her being undarage on the site. this was an honest typo i made the change two days ago and did not realize i made the error until you guys started attacking the site, now im probably going to have to switch to a different billing company because of this stupid error.
this sucks

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You're scum. Fuck off.

GigaChris 09-30-2003 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ytcracker


it does now

it was JUST changed

Thats what I figured probably the only way she can get away w/ having her site up

JSA Matt 09-30-2003 01:04 PM

Also, since the guy come on GFY and posted about HIS site.. I think Lensman should contribute the IP address and expose this piece of shit.

DarkJedi 09-30-2003 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by carbon5
It was just a typo - ive made no reference to her being undarage on the site. this was an honest typo i made the change two days ago and did not realize i made the error until you guys started attacking the site, now im probably going to have to switch to a different billing company because of this stupid error.
this sucks



http://sexy-celebs.net/hotlink/07-minister.jpg

gooddomains 09-30-2003 01:05 PM

as I said, these mistakes will cost us the ability to accept credit cards sooner or later

ytcracker 09-30-2003 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DarkJedi




http://sexy-celebs.net/hotlink/07-minister.jpg

LOLOLROLOFFOFROFFRLLLLL
dude tres letras is on that bitch whodi phear
the clink loves pedo shit

BVF 09-30-2003 01:09 PM

HOw the hell can you have a site up and don't notice that the HEADLINE of your site is wrong??

If you want to exploit a 16 year old bitch, be a man and admit it....You sound like my soon to be ex-wife in divorce court....making up lies off of the top of your head when ALL EVIDENCE shows that you're lying...

carbon5 09-30-2003 01:30 PM

first of all meta tags are just to get traffic from search engines - thats all i just used a premade most popular search keyword list that just happens to have keywords such as preteen etc. thats not a crime and everyone does it.
As far as the 16 It was a mistake and i stated that on the homepage, this matter is resolved. thanks

DarkJedi 09-30-2003 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by carbon5
first of all meta tags are just to get traffic from search engines - thats all i just used a premade most popular search keyword list that just happens to have keywords such as preteen etc. thats not a crime and everyone does it.
As far as the 16 It was a mistake and i stated that on the homepage, this matter is resolved. thanks

fucking die you pedo fuck


http://perverted-justice.com

Seb From Holland 09-30-2003 01:41 PM

Site is taken down now.

RedBumper 09-30-2003 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by carbon5
first of all meta tags are just to get traffic from search engines - thats all i just used a premade most popular search keyword list that just happens to have keywords such as preteen etc. thats not a crime and everyone does it.
As far as the 16 It was a mistake and i stated that on the homepage, this matter is resolved. thanks

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh
So uhm..... howlong has this misstake been on your homepage?
"Over 3000 members" so you overlooked this "misstake" for howmany months/years?
Do you really think we are all THAT stupid? :321GFY

JSA Matt 09-30-2003 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Seb From Holland
Site is taken down now.
Good.. I'm sure the host and ASACP got plenty of reports.. I know I sent a couple myself : )

Nembrionic 09-30-2003 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by carbon5
first of all meta tags are just to get traffic from search engines - thats all i just used a premade most popular search keyword list that just happens to have keywords such as preteen etc. thats not a crime and everyone does it.
As far as the 16 It was a mistake and i stated that on the homepage, this matter is resolved. thanks

Meaning you don't read what you put up on your own site?
Putting 16 on the site along with these fucked up keywords is NO MISTAKE.

People like you are exactly the kind of people I was talking about earlier. You say it's a keyword for search engines, but with keywords like 'young teens' and 'pre teens' you TARGET pedo's intentionaly. Are you not?

And you know what the worst part about this is?
I have a LE with you. Correction: HAD.

Either *I* haven't paid attention when adding your link, OR you are lying your ass off.

Perhaps I was off guard, but thanks for the wake-up call again.

:321GFY

Mutt? Any response on my previous post?

Nima 09-30-2003 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Trent Edison
http://www.32R.com/owned.jpg

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

ouch :1orglaugh

just a punk 09-30-2003 02:14 PM

Such sort of people is also increasing our problems with VISA/MC. First of all they drop a shadow to billing companies like CCBill.

PerfectionGirls 09-30-2003 02:46 PM

Quote:

first of all meta tags are just to get traffic from search engines - thats all i just used a premade most popular search keyword list that just happens to have keywords such as preteen etc. thats not a crime and everyone does it.
Aint that sad!

Well.. does anyone use meta tahs anymore anyways? Damn.. if i haveot use "preteen" on my site anywhere to get a sale I will close my program up now. Damn..

Mistakes happen... you being really new is somewhat of an excuse, but your ccbill sales rep should be strung up by the fucking balls for letting that slip through. However.. its your site. You learned some important shit the hard way today. You are not the first.

JSA Matt 09-30-2003 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PerfectionGirls
your ccbill sales rep should be strung up by the fucking balls for letting that slip through
I don't think it was an accident.. :2 cents:

Tofu 09-30-2003 03:04 PM

a damn good thread

teenjump 09-30-2003 03:06 PM

This was a good read. Nice to see another site taken to justice. This industry doesn't need more of this guy.

harvey 09-30-2003 04:29 PM

the site looks down for me. :1orglaugh

and you carbon5, what can I say? You just make typos that go exactly with your meta tags, and you made profit of it, and of course, never noticed it. yeah, that's right, you run a business and you never noticed you're a pedo :ak47: :BangBang: I hope some disturbed psychopat like you and all your clients finds you in a dark alley, after all, that's what you like

life sucks, indeed. and it sucks more due to people like you :feels-hot

JDog 09-30-2003 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JSA Matt


Judging by the meta tags and links to other sites, this was no typo.

Edit: Your meta tags are so blatent it's funny...

"free preteen underage galleries model dani"
"13 to 19 teen chat"
"miss teen usa"
"preteen model"
"pre teen model"
"child super model"
"playboy,deep throat,anal,cute,underage,preteen,barbie"

Dude you're so busted. I hope you go to jail and I hope Playboy, Barbi, and Miss Teen USA sue your ass.

Damn, dude is busted. Can't believe he said it was an accident! yea how do you look over "pre teen model" and not notice that

jDoG

Yngwie 09-30-2003 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by carbon5
first of all meta tags are just to get traffic from search engines - thats all i just used a premade most popular search keyword list that just happens to have keywords such as preteen etc. thats not a crime and everyone does it.
As far as the 16 It was a mistake and i stated that on the homepage, this matter is resolved. thanks

Thats a LAME excuse! Anyone n the porn biz would know NOT to use such keywords because they would more then likely get you in trouble.. No matter how much traffic you think you would get with those keywords you should NOT use them!

Now, with keywords like that, who do you think you are attracting? regular porn surfers? FUCK NO! you are targetting PEDOS!

So to say that they are just meta tags for search engines use is fucking bullshit. If you really wanted good, legal keywords you would have removed the ones that pertain to preteen, lolita or anything underage.. And obviously to get your so called premade list you would have had to do a search using those keywords or a part of them

As for the Playboy keyword.. if Playboy finds out you better run and hide.

Saying that typing 16 was a typo is all good BUT when you have keywords like that what do you think people will think about you?

I run a legal teen TGP and nowhere on my site will you see anything that reffers to underage girls.. not in the title, the keyword or anywhere.. So the point is, you are a sick fuck!

Yngwie

Theo 09-30-2003 05:17 PM

we should contact his host as well. I bet very few if none would like this clown as a client

Digipimp 09-30-2003 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
we should contact his host as well. I bet very few if none would like this clown as a client
Apparently CCBill didn't mind him as a client until it was exposed on a big place like this.

Funny thing is they were passing her site off as a 16 year old model and she looks to old to be on a Lightspeed site!

teenjump 09-30-2003 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Digipimp


Apparently CCBill didn't mind him as a client until it was exposed on a big place like this.

Funny thing is they were passing her site off as a 16 year old model and she looks to old to be on a Lightspeed site!

I wouldn't say that was the case - I think someone emailed them about it - and it was posted here at the same time. I don't think they would let that slip.

Digipimp 09-30-2003 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by teenjump


I wouldn't say that was the case - I think someone emailed them about it - and it was posted here at the same time. I don't think they would let that slip.

Oh so you're saying the site was changed after being approved, which I don't believe is the case at all. Clearly the site was marketed as teen model non nude site and I would bet they let it in because of that, while sites like that aren't illegal we all know what purpose those sites serve and CCBill cares about money above all else as do most other companies.

JSA Matt 09-30-2003 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JDog


Damn, dude is busted. Can't believe he said it was an accident! yea how do you look over "pre teen model" and not notice that

jDoG

I like how he said the keywords were a "template" yet the word "dani" is nicely placed next to the word "preteen"

corvette 09-30-2003 05:50 PM

Digipimp,

We process for thousands of existing websites that constantly change and have hundreds of accounts added to existing accounts every single day. We have a review department that goes through the sites based on set rules that are designed to bring the accounts with risk factors to our eyes so that we can look at them right away and as well, periodically review every single account we have within a set cycle.

We turn accounts off every single day. This is very frustrating to me to have to try to explain this. If we find an account that is violating our AUP, it will be addressed immediately. Period.

Digipimp 09-30-2003 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by corvett
Digipimp,

We process for thousands of existing websites that constantly change and have hundreds of accounts added to existing accounts every single day. We have a review department that goes through the sites based on set rules that are designed to bring the accounts with risk factors to our eyes so that we can look at them right away and as well, periodically review every single account we have within a set cycle.

We turn accounts off every single day. This is very frustrating to me to have to try to explain this. If we find an account that is violating our AUP, it will be addressed immediately. Period.

You don't have to explain anything to me I understand how you work as do all other companies work. I know you guys have a ton of sites to manage and review and that things get by from time to time I suppose. So in your response you would be implying that this site was not accepted as it was but was changed after it was reviewed is that correct? If I were you guys I would watch taking a position on this either way so that you don't get proven wrong, you shut the account down and that's the right thing to do.

Radik 09-30-2003 08:16 PM

I shoot full nakid, run nn for a year, then go softcore, then full.. wtf I get three trips in three markets before it's worn and tired.

I have nothing to do with pedo but 80% of my current sales result from softcore/nonnude tease live cam sites.

So please, let's make this clear -18 BAD, +18 GOOD..

greetings from canada btw.

Yngwie 09-30-2003 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by uproared
Listen Guys...

"NN" encompasses all the values of "ADULT", but on a smaller scale. By NN I am referring to NN18+, a niche that focuses specifically on better conversions due to less saturation - a bit like the TGP2 concepts, etc (however, instead of minimizing the number of pictures, we minimize the nudity).

Now, I agree that NN has some bad eggs (NN18-, people using stupid meta-tags, etc.), however the MAJORITY of sites are ethically and legally sound. FFS, think of how many rape/beast/shit sites there are in "ADULT" - if I came in here crying "ADULT IS BAD....BAN PORN" everytime I saw one, I'd have a GFY bomber jacket by now...

What I'm trying to say is that YOU CANNOT group all NN sites into the 1 category. You'd be suprised how many prominent GFY figures operate in the 18+ NN niche - and by stating that "All NN Fuckers should die" (and the like), you're treading on a shit load more toes than you'd like to know about...


Cheers
Uproared

Thats very true

Yngwie

Dax 09-30-2003 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Yngwie
As for the Playboy keyword.. if Playboy finds out you better run and hide.


I have already emailed the head counsel at playboy :thumbsup

SpeakEasy 09-30-2003 10:41 PM

Fletch I tend to agree with you..

basschick 09-30-2003 11:12 PM

tgps have scripts that check galleries several times a day. why can't the processors have the same type of script that scans meta and text on the page once a day? that way, if any forbidden words get added, they can immediately yank the account.

Digipimp 09-30-2003 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by basschick
tgps have scripts that check galleries several times a day. why can't the processors have the same type of script that scans meta and text on the page once a day? that way, if any forbidden words get added, they can immediately yank the account.
Because then they wouldn't make any money. :1orglaugh

FTVGirls 09-30-2003 11:34 PM

who cares, the site will return with verotel as its cc processor.

Ludedude 10-01-2003 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DarkJedi




http://sexy-celebs.net/hotlink/07-minister.jpg

Poseur. Here's the real deal.

http://www.theinformationminister.co...p?ID=612319603

sexeducation 10-01-2003 01:46 AM

How can a minor make a legally binding contract?
How can a minor consent to the sale of their likeness (for any reason) until they are an adult?
They can not.

The picture "may" be taken - but the contract is void until they are an adult and can legally consent to the sale of them.

<H3>BYE BYE - all fucking teen "model" website</H3>

In the terminology of this board ...
FUCK OFF AND DIE ALL "TEEN MODEL" WEBSITES ...

We know who you cater too ...

So let me make this point blank clear.
You (any distributing the likenesses) are at risk of being sued by the minor you took advantage of when she becomes an adult.

Visa knows it too ...
CC processors know this too ...

BYE BYE all "teen model" websites ???
Not quite - but she better be an adult NOW if they are being sold.

If you sold pictures of a minor while they were a minor there are four word you need to understand;

PUNITIVE DAMAGES
RISK MANAGEMENT

IMO

sexeducation 10-01-2003 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by uproared



You need to take "Sentence Structure & Paragraphing 101" :2 cents:

This is a "chat board" now with the speed of posts.
I don't care if I miss a "plural" or other "gramatical" error ...
You need to stop attacking the messenger and start attacking the message.

Your handle is being memorizde ...
[pun intended]

nutzella 10-01-2003 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gooddomains
If that was a typo, why do the meta tags contain "preteen"? This is not funny, because typos like that is what makes it so hard to convince VISA/MC to continue billing.
:(

sexeducation 10-01-2003 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nutzella


:(

I find that "typo" as noted in this thread pretty hard to belive too...
All I saw was their original homepage.

I didn't see 2257 compliance originally and much earlier today.
I didn't see an ICRA.org statement either.

If the "model" is not currently an adult ...
I smell a lot of legal and police heat for someone.

And when she is an adult ...
I smell major FUCKING LAWSUITES ...
against any company that profited from the sale of her underage identity.

You can not sell something that belongs to someone else without their permission.

A minor can not legally make a "binding contract" in this situation.

I smell big time shut downs as the internet grows up.

sexeducation 10-01-2003 02:18 AM

GoodDomains.com (?) I am presuming ...
if not then GoodDomains the handle on GFY ...

Awesome thread.
Open - frank - and with results.

GoodDomains.com
Good job.
We need more of this.

Dravyk 10-01-2003 03:58 AM

Brad, you should offer your services to CC Bill on a consulting basis. You seem to have a long history for and a very natural talent at finding password traders, hackers, cheaters, underage sites ... you should leverage it. Helps clean up the industry too.

DJRCyberAVS 10-01-2003 04:08 AM

I certainly don't build under -18 sites. Tthe 18+ nn is a totally diffrerent market and nothing to do with these underage modelling pedo site. The 18+ nn market is pretty good when promoted with the right intentions.

I don't condone under 18 content, and to put it on the same site as adult sponsors/content is fucking sickening. Over here in the UK, models can go topless in the newspaper at 16 and also have sex legally. I'm sure Sam Fox was 16 when she first started getting her tits out for a major newspaper. Laws are different worldwide.

I've reported two sites this last week to the ASACP - both featured underage nude content and one of the sites had already had thousands of complaints. Both of these were classed as nude art sites and the ASACP could do nothing else. The sites is question would no doubt try to portray themselves as modelling portfollio/advertising type sites... so fuck knows what the chance of legal action is.

adultwebware 10-01-2003 06:30 AM

http://www.dani-model.com/

already in down. someone has done a great work. =)

Living For Today 10-01-2003 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sexeducation


This is a "chat board" now with the speed of posts.
I don't care if I miss a "plural" or other "gramatical" error ...
You need to stop attacking the messenger and start attacking the message.

Your handle is being memorizde ...
[pun intended]

You didnt just miss a plural or a gramatical error. Your whole post was worse than a fucking full blown russian posting to try and sell his 6 digit icq uin. i couldnt comprehend the first two lines and the rest looked like it followed suit.

WebTitan 10-01-2003 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by carbon5
first of all meta tags are just to get traffic from search engines - thats all i just used a premade most popular search keyword list that just happens to have keywords such as preteen etc. thats not a crime and everyone does it.
As far as the 16 It was a mistake and i stated that on the homepage, this matter is resolved. thanks

dude, it is obvious to everyone here that your WHOLE goal was to try and push this to pedophiles...OPPS! missed the '16' on there...OPPS! Missed the PreTeen metatags...uh...just use them for traffic...

what the fuck kind of traffic do you think you were going to get using shit like that???

it is people like you that give this industry a bad name and make it tough for the legit guys to keep there doors open. you should be strung up by your balls, when "bubba" gets his big old hands on you in the big house.

Mylene 10-01-2003 08:11 AM

Well, first of all sorry about my english.

I dont understand you guys...
My friends doutcher want to be a model. she is 14 years old , so her parents biled her non nude site with her photos.
ofcourse her parents dont have any problemms with that.
This girls earnining money from her website, and also very enjoi it.
More than that, a lot of profesional agenncyes, wanted to shoot her, after thay saw the web site.
Modeling carier it what she want to do in her life, and she is very preaty.
SO WHAT WRONG WITH THAT???????

That some pedofils can be a members of her site? ok, thatre is a posibillity, and she know that....but she want a modeling carier, so she dont care about that.

IMHO its all depends...
If you have underage site, with little girls , with open legs, (even non nude), with sexsual posez, with a panty and bra. this is BAD !
But if you have a NN site, even -18, with a good modeling photos.
with no provocative shoot. I dont see any problemm with that.


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