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Chaldoray · 09-29-2003, 06:12 PM

Can anyone tell me what's a good paintball gun between $100-300 thanks.

Mr Pheer · 09-29-2003, 06:20 PM

i've got a WOR autococker and a marbalized tippman 98.... both are pretty good... and used once

nofx · 09-29-2003, 06:20 PM

I have a tippman 98 and it works just fine for me.

beemk · 09-29-2003, 06:20 PM

i have a spyder shutter, its a good gun

natas · 09-29-2003, 06:23 PM

I worked in a shop that sold paintball guns for a few years back in the day.

Apparently the one to go for is the Angel...

nothing beats it, so said everyone I knew

http://www.wdp-paintball.co.uk <--- more here

Chaldoray · 09-29-2003, 06:28 PM

Yeah.. I know the ANGEL LCD is the best. I am not looking to spend $1000 on a paintball gun

I want to spend around $100-$300. Is the tipman or pirhana good? I was looking at this site http://www.xpaintball.com

nofx · 09-29-2003, 06:29 PM

i'd go with the tippman 98, its a good first gun to have.

swedguy · 09-29-2003, 06:33 PM

This weekend at the field I used the E-Mag. It's a god damned sweet gun if you feel like paying a little more

The rental guns we have are Tippman 98 Custom. They work in all weathers, don't break very easy and don't require much maintenance. I think they are in the $100-200 range.

candyflip · 09-29-2003, 06:34 PM

No paintball newbie should be running with an Autococker of any sort. Just too much can go wrong and if you're not able to strip and repair your maker on the field if there's a problem...you'll be fucked.

If you've got the bucks to invest, check out the Angel LCD markers. Fucking kick ass, but will run you $1200. Even a newb can show up with an Angel and own.

Spyder E-99 is the best marker on the market under $200.

nofx · 09-29-2003, 06:38 PM

any n00bie with an automatic is going to own the fuck out the people playing with semi's

Chaldoray · 09-29-2003, 06:39 PM

is Spyder E-99 better than tipman and pirhana? Which spyder is good check it here http://search.store.yahoo.com/cgi-bi...ns earch.html

KMR Stitch · 09-29-2003, 06:42 PM

:-x I use a spyder IMAGE.

Use the change left over and buy a barrel upgrade.
12v rev hopper.

KMR Stitch · 09-29-2003, 06:43 PM

Upgrade to Compresed air. DON'T USE C02

candyflip · 09-29-2003, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Chaldoray
is Spyder E-99 better than tipman and pirhana? Which spyder is good check it here http://search.store.yahoo.com/cgi-bi...ns earch.html

Personally, I think it's a much better marker. I own an E99 as my backup, and my dad has the Tippman 98. He's always trying to snag my Spyder

Chaldoray · 09-29-2003, 06:48 PM

Ok, the spyder that comes with nothing is $144.77

Chaldoray · 09-29-2003, 06:50 PM

why? What's the difference between compressed air and co2?

Mr Pheer · 09-29-2003, 06:51 PM

i got a new nitrogen tank for sale... its a big one

how the fuck do i get the nitrogen out of it anyway before I ship it

candyflip · 09-29-2003, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Chaldoray
why? What's the difference between compressed air and co2?

Google cut and paste:

CO2 vs Compressed Air
CO2: CO2 is actually a liquid that must be changed to a gas. The Conversion from liquid to gas causes your tank to get cold and the colder your tank gets the less pressure it produces. The Ideal tank tempature is 70 degrees, this is because at 70 degrees liquid CO2 produces about 850psi, which is the average operating pressure needed for optimal performance of most paintball guns. As the tank tempature gets lower the pressure drops and the gun performance drops as well. The faster you pull the trigger on your gun the colder your tank gets. At some point most guns will end up sucking in liquid CO2. This will cause things to freeze inside your gun which will cause your gun to stop working for a short period of time. In most cases CO2 works ok, but if tempaturers are below 50 degrees you can expect to have some problems with things freezing up.

Nitrogen/Compressed air/HPA(High Pressure Air): Nitrogen is basically the opposite of CO2. It is cleaner(makes up about 80% of the air we breathe), which is better for the internals of your gun. Compressed air under pressure it is a gas. This means that there is no need to worry about things freezing up. Compressed Air Systems use a regulator that is usually preset at 850psi, this means that no matter how fast you pull the trigger or how cold the tempature outside is you are getting a consistent 850psi to your gun.

The designation of 3000psi or 4500psi refers to the capacity of your tank. The more pressure you can fill it with, the more shots it can deliver. How many shots will your get? 3000psi tanks deliver about 10 shots per cubic inch (68ci = 680 shots, 47ci = 470 shots, 88ci = 880 shots, 114ci = 1140 shots). 4500psi tanks can deliver 15 shots per inch (68ci = 1020 shots, 88ci = 1320 shots, 114ci = 1720 shots). Shot fired vary with each gun depending on the type of setup you are using.

Chaldoray · 09-29-2003, 06:55 PM

Ok, where do i get the compressed air shit at?

Chaldoray · 09-29-2003, 06:56 PM

I am new to this paintball stuff but this gun is auto correct? What do you do with gun oil do i need that? Hoppers to what do those do.

GotGauge · 09-29-2003, 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Chaldoray
Yeah.. I know the ANGEL LCD is the best. I am not looking to spend $1000 on a paintball gun I want to spend around $100-$300. Is the tipman or pirhana good? I was looking at this site http://www.xpaintball.com

TIPPMAN all the way.
You can get the complete kit for uder $200.
Pay a little more to get the custom so you can add more later if you want.

I didn't look around for Prices, but
HERE IS AN EXAMPLE

If you want to spend a little more get the A-5
Link to an A-5

Chaldoray · 09-29-2003, 07:18 PM

Hmm.. Everyone is telling me to go with the spyder

candyflip · 09-29-2003, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Chaldoray
Hmm.. Everyone is telling me to go with the spyder

For a reason.

candyflip · 09-29-2003, 07:25 PM

I didn't realize that there's a new E-99. Still priced under $200 with some new features:

http://www.expertshot.com/e99avnant.html

http://www.kingmanusa.com/section/em...ant/index.html

Chaldoray · 09-29-2003, 07:27 PM

Ok, I'm going with the Spyder, You still didn't tell me what the hopper and gun oil does.

Chaldoray · 09-29-2003, 07:29 PM

should i order it from the site you gave me or from http://search.store.yahoo.com/cgi-b...%2Fnsearch.html

candyflip · 09-29-2003, 07:31 PM

Hopper holds your paint and gun oil keeps the parts lubed.

Inexpensive, but kickass barrel upgrade

Inexpensive, but kickass hopper

candyflip · 09-29-2003, 07:34 PM

That Xtremez store is probably the biggest online paintball supplier. I've ordered from them in the past with no complaints. I always thought of those selling thru the Yahoo stores to just be resellers. If it's a matter of a few $$$, I'd go with the link I mentioned.

Chaldoray · 09-29-2003, 07:44 PM

Ok, That gun is auto and compressed air correct? The reason i wanna order from the link i posted is because i don't have a credit card now only checking account. So they don't have the new spyder anywhere that accepts checks?

Excellence · 09-29-2003, 08:38 PM

It is out of your price range, but here is what you NEED, if you want to play real paintball:

1. Stock automag (with powerfeed)
2. Revolution hopper.
3. Stick Squeegee.

Your upgrades will then go in this order:
1. Dye 12" 2 piece barrel.
2. Drop forward with HPA (nitro)

Thats it! Now you are tournament level.

Angels go out of timing, cokers go out of timing, spyders are absolute shit, and almost every other gun is a knockoff of the shitty spider. The shocker is too heavy, and likes co2, instead of hpa (crap).

Our 2 teams took 1st and 2nd in a tournament in Kendal, Fl.

If you get an automag, you will never ever be without help, or a parts kit, and there is no more reliable marker in the world.

Excellence · 09-29-2003, 08:41 PM

Forgot, you are also going to need a pack to carry your extra paint (get a 5 or 6 cannister drop out the bottom (not the side, you will get hit in it)). And absolute MUST! JT spectra 260 mask. Go to world cup and see what the best wear. There is no finer.

http://www.warpig.com/ has everything you would ever need to know about the sport.

magicmike · 09-29-2003, 08:46 PM

I just have a Piranha E-Force, I've only played like 6 times in the last few years though, so I don't see a need for something better.

That being said, I love playing and would like to play more (I prefer to play with buddies and its hard getting a few together that want to play)

But damn is it fun to go out for a day and play outdoors, give it all you got and just have a blast for a few hours.

I've tried indoors, - fun but not the same.

So if you play a lot go for something great, if not get something average / rent.

Excellence · 09-29-2003, 08:53 PM

Final Hot Link that should be a dream find if you're looking for the real deal on all the markers out there (in addition to whats available on the forums) http://www.warpig.com/paintball/tech...echnical.shtml

GotGauge · 09-29-2003, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Excellence
It is out of your price range, but here is what you NEED, if you want to play real paintball:

1. Stock automag (with powerfeed)
2. Revolution hopper.
3. Stick Squeegee.

Your upgrades will then go in this order:
1. Dye 12" 2 piece barrel.
2. Drop forward with HPA (nitro)

Thats it! Now you are tournament level.

Angels go out of timing, cokers go out of timing, spyders are absolute shit, and almost every other gun is a knockoff of the shitty spider. The shocker is too heavy, and likes co2, instead of hpa (crap).

Our 2 teams took 1st and 2nd in a tournament in Kendal, Fl.

If you get an automag, you will never ever be without help, or a parts kit, and there is no more reliable marker in the world.

What do you think about the Tippman's?
I have a 98
a 98 custom - flatline
and now an A-5 with E-Grip
I have Never had any problems with any Tippman
My Spider is Broke all the time.
my 2 pirhana's Suck Ass

Excellence · 09-29-2003, 09:29 PM

I've never heard anything bad about a tipman, I would probably choose it over the spyder. The quesiton is, for and xtra $100 to $150 bucks, why not have the best, most reliable, tournament grade marker out there? You never have to sell it, ever.

Almost everyone that buys a more expensive marker (angel, anything electronic) keeps their automag as a backup for when their more expensive gun fails, or to hand to friends to play with.

I've played with shockers, cockers, angels, automags, and shot a few rounds out of a tipman. For me, the angel is not as consistant as the mag or cocker (it's accuracy by volume). And For every 1 working properly cocker I've seen, I've seen 2 broken ones.

Back when I had a spyder half the day was spent fixing it, a quarter cursing it on field, and 1/4 having fun playing.

With the mag, its 100 percent fun. No problems, no hassles, and the paint goes right where you want it. (YOU MUST HAVE A REVOLUTION HOPPER ON ANY PAINTBALL GUN YOU WANT TO SHOOT FAST). If you don't you will break paint and cry your way off the field (or use the aforementioned squeegee to clean out all the paint in the barrel and off the bolt before you ever shoot another straight shot).

The good old days.

I am thinking of starting up another team for fun down here in Fort Lauderdale. Anyone have any favorite fields down here?

09-29-2003, 09:33 PM

Here's what you need:

If it's hotlink protected click here:
http://www.tippmann.com/home/hhound/hhound.html

Jamie · 09-29-2003, 09:53 PM

I started playing PB 8 months ago, I started with the most expensive gun I could find. At that time it was the E-Orracle made by WGP (WORR) Autococker. Ended up spending $3,000 on all the gear.

If anyone plays at Tombstone, Hollywood Sports, Jungle or SC Village, you'll find us. We'll be at Jungle this Sat if anyone is interested in meeting up. I run with the guys who work for WGP and we all have E-Orracles, 22+ balls a second

icq 18519335

Chaldoray · 09-29-2003, 10:35 PM

add me on aim at nickopray or icq at 237842929 i want to talk more about these paintball guns. I'm from san diego :P

Big Fish 47 · 09-29-2003, 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nofx
any n00bie with an automatic is going to own the fuck out the people playing with semi's

My Tippmann A-5 R/T pounds noobies with autos!!!

-=HOAX=- · 09-29-2003, 10:44 PM

Personally an automag or minimag would be my choice. They're durable as al hell upgradable to compete with those angel's and cockers and the most important factor...they hold their value.

You can buy and old ass automag, clean it up put a new trigger and valve on it and you're competting at a very high level.

And when you've trashed the hell out of it...you can still get a decent price for it...

Check out ebay, you'll find that the mags are all about the same price while it seems you'll fnd most all other guns will be varying widely in price, why? Because when they get beat up a bit they die...you will definitely need co2 with a mag, but that goes true with most any gun if you want to compete. I've seen some tricked out mags get 9 to 13 balls per second too...same as an angel, and not suffer much drop off. But the spray and pray method has never been my style...which is why I went with a mag...my accuracy is dead on...

-=HOAX=- · 09-29-2003, 10:47 PM

Not only that...PB is an expensive habit...and I've watched a ton of kids buy a brand new this and that...get into it and find they couldn't keep up money wise...I'd say get a decent but not overly pricey gun and save some money for some field time.

If you burnout in 4 months and you've got a $1200 gun on your hands...you'll be seling it for $800...and losing money.

Chaldoray · 09-29-2003, 11:11 PM

automag or minimag? I want to buy one brand new i'll see from ebay or from that xpaintball site.

Chaldoray · 09-29-2003, 11:11 PM

How much is a automag or minimag brand new? What kind of automag should i get?

Chaldoray · 09-29-2003, 11:13 PM

IS automag the full gun name or ? Who's the manufacture

-=HOAX=- · 09-29-2003, 11:13 PM

Start by researching here...

http://www.airgun.com/

Chaldoray · 09-29-2003, 11:14 PM

wtf is better a electric gun or auto

Chaldoray · 09-29-2003, 11:29 PM

http://www.expresspaintball.com/expr...s/02AUTOMAGPKG

and heres all gun models
http://www.expresspaintball.com/expr.../catalogs/1001

which one pick one for me around 250

Keev · 09-30-2003, 01:17 AM

Now thats some hot shit, take that buggy to glamis!

09-29-2003, 06:12 PM	#1
Chaldoray Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 2,868	Need help on picking a good paintball gun.. Can anyone tell me what's a good paintball gun between $100-300 thanks.

09-29-2003, 06:20 PM	#2
Mr Pheer Retired Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 21,263	i've got a WOR autococker and a marbalized tippman 98.... both are pretty good... and used once __________________ 2 lifeguards for Jessica

09-29-2003, 06:20 PM	#3
nofx Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Virgin Mary's womb Posts: 16,826	I have a tippman 98 and it works just fine for me. __________________ Often times I wonder why There's love and hate, theres live or die. When sickness comes I must decide: When feelings go, theres suicide.

09-29-2003, 06:20 PM	#4
beemk CLICK HERE Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 20,829	i have a spyder shutter, its a good gun __________________ I host with Vacares

09-29-2003, 06:29 PM	#7
nofx Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Virgin Mary's womb Posts: 16,826	i'd go with the tippman 98, its a good first gun to have. __________________ Often times I wonder why There's love and hate, theres live or die. When sickness comes I must decide: When feelings go, theres suicide.

09-29-2003, 06:23 PM	#5
natas Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: : unknown Posts: 3,377	I worked in a shop that sold paintball guns for a few years back in the day. Apparently the one to go for is the Angel... nothing beats it, so said everyone I knew http://www.wdp-paintball.co.uk <--- more here

09-29-2003, 06:28 PM	#6
Chaldoray Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 2,868	Yeah.. I know the ANGEL LCD is the best. I am not looking to spend $1000 on a paintball gun I want to spend around $100-$300. Is the tipman or pirhana good? I was looking at this site http://www.xpaintball.com

09-29-2003, 06:33 PM	#8
swedguy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 7,981	This weekend at the field I used the E-Mag. It's a god damned sweet gun if you feel like paying a little more The rental guns we have are Tippman 98 Custom. They work in all weathers, don't break very easy and don't require much maintenance. I think they are in the $100-200 range.

09-29-2003, 06:34 PM	#9
candyflip Carpe Visio Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New York Posts: 43,064	No paintball newbie should be running with an Autococker of any sort. Just too much can go wrong and if you're not able to strip and repair your maker on the field if there's a problem...you'll be fucked. If you've got the bucks to invest, check out the Angel LCD markers. Fucking kick ass, but will run you $1200. Even a newb can show up with an Angel and own. Spyder E-99 is the best marker on the market under $200. __________________ Spend you some brain. Email Me

09-29-2003, 06:38 PM	#10
nofx Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Virgin Mary's womb Posts: 16,826	any n00bie with an automatic is going to own the fuck out the people playing with semi's __________________ Often times I wonder why There's love and hate, theres live or die. When sickness comes I must decide: When feelings go, theres suicide.

09-29-2003, 06:39 PM	#11
Chaldoray Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 2,868	is Spyder E-99 better than tipman and pirhana? Which spyder is good check it here http://search.store.yahoo.com/cgi-bi...ns earch.html

09-29-2003, 06:42 PM	#12
KMR Stitch I am cool Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 14,494	:-x I use a spyder IMAGE. Use the change left over and buy a barrel upgrade. 12v rev hopper.

09-29-2003, 06:43 PM	#13
KMR Stitch I am cool Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 14,494	Upgrade to Compresed air. DON'T USE C02

09-29-2003, 06:48 PM	#15
Chaldoray Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 2,868	Ok, the spyder that comes with nothing is $144.77

09-29-2003, 06:50 PM	#16
Chaldoray Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 2,868	why? What's the difference between compressed air and co2?

09-29-2003, 06:51 PM	#17
Mr Pheer Retired Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 21,263	i got a new nitrogen tank for sale... its a big one how the fuck do i get the nitrogen out of it anyway before I ship it __________________ 2 lifeguards for Jessica

09-29-2003, 06:55 PM	#19
Chaldoray Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 2,868	Ok, where do i get the compressed air shit at?

09-29-2003, 06:56 PM	#20
Chaldoray Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 2,868	I am new to this paintball stuff but this gun is auto correct? What do you do with gun oil do i need that? Hoppers to what do those do.

09-29-2003, 07:18 PM	#22
Chaldoray Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 2,868	Hmm.. Everyone is telling me to go with the spyder

09-29-2003, 07:25 PM	#24
candyflip Carpe Visio Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New York Posts: 43,064	I didn't realize that there's a new E-99. Still priced under $200 with some new features: http://www.expertshot.com/e99avnant.html http://www.kingmanusa.com/section/em...ant/index.html __________________ Spend you some brain. Email Me

09-29-2003, 07:27 PM	#25
Chaldoray Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 2,868	Ok, I'm going with the Spyder, You still didn't tell me what the hopper and gun oil does.

09-29-2003, 07:29 PM	#26
Chaldoray Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 2,868	should i order it from the site you gave me or from http://search.store.yahoo.com/cgi-b...%2Fnsearch.html

09-29-2003, 07:31 PM	#27
candyflip Carpe Visio Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New York Posts: 43,064	Hopper holds your paint and gun oil keeps the parts lubed. Inexpensive, but kickass barrel upgrade Inexpensive, but kickass hopper __________________ Spend you some brain. Email Me

09-29-2003, 07:34 PM	#28
candyflip Carpe Visio Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New York Posts: 43,064	That Xtremez store is probably the biggest online paintball supplier. I've ordered from them in the past with no complaints. I always thought of those selling thru the Yahoo stores to just be resellers. If it's a matter of a few $$$, I'd go with the link I mentioned. __________________ Spend you some brain. Email Me

09-29-2003, 07:44 PM	#29
Chaldoray Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 2,868	Ok, That gun is auto and compressed air correct? The reason i wanna order from the link i posted is because i don't have a credit card now only checking account. So they don't have the new spyder anywhere that accepts checks?

09-29-2003, 08:38 PM	#30
Excellence Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 89	It is out of your price range, but here is what you NEED, if you want to play real paintball: 1. Stock automag (with powerfeed) 2. Revolution hopper. 3. Stick Squeegee. Your upgrades will then go in this order: 1. Dye 12" 2 piece barrel. 2. Drop forward with HPA (nitro) Thats it! Now you are tournament level. Angels go out of timing, cokers go out of timing, spyders are absolute shit, and almost every other gun is a knockoff of the shitty spider. The shocker is too heavy, and likes co2, instead of hpa (crap). Our 2 teams took 1st and 2nd in a tournament in Kendal, Fl. If you get an automag, you will never ever be without help, or a parts kit, and there is no more reliable marker in the world.

09-29-2003, 08:41 PM	#31
Excellence Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 89	Forgot, you are also going to need a pack to carry your extra paint (get a 5 or 6 cannister drop out the bottom (not the side, you will get hit in it)). And absolute MUST! JT spectra 260 mask. Go to world cup and see what the best wear. There is no finer. http://www.warpig.com/ has everything you would ever need to know about the sport.

09-29-2003, 08:46 PM	#32
magicmike Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: JustPorno Posts: 2,384	I just have a Piranha E-Force, I've only played like 6 times in the last few years though, so I don't see a need for something better. That being said, I love playing and would like to play more (I prefer to play with buddies and its hard getting a few together that want to play) But damn is it fun to go out for a day and play outdoors, give it all you got and just have a blast for a few hours. I've tried indoors, - fun but not the same. So if you play a lot go for something great, if not get something average / rent. __________________ Just Porno with both classic and mobile porn versions. Gay Porn Our mega gay site tranny porn

09-29-2003, 08:53 PM	#33
Excellence Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 89	Final Hot Link that should be a dream find if you're looking for the real deal on all the markers out there (in addition to whats available on the forums) http://www.warpig.com/paintball/tech...echnical.shtml

09-29-2003, 09:29 PM	#35
Excellence Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 89	I've never heard anything bad about a tipman, I would probably choose it over the spyder. The quesiton is, for and xtra $100 to $150 bucks, why not have the best, most reliable, tournament grade marker out there? You never have to sell it, ever. Almost everyone that buys a more expensive marker (angel, anything electronic) keeps their automag as a backup for when their more expensive gun fails, or to hand to friends to play with. I've played with shockers, cockers, angels, automags, and shot a few rounds out of a tipman. For me, the angel is not as consistant as the mag or cocker (it's accuracy by volume). And For every 1 working properly cocker I've seen, I've seen 2 broken ones. Back when I had a spyder half the day was spent fixing it, a quarter cursing it on field, and 1/4 having fun playing. With the mag, its 100 percent fun. No problems, no hassles, and the paint goes right where you want it. (YOU MUST HAVE A REVOLUTION HOPPER ON ANY PAINTBALL GUN YOU WANT TO SHOOT FAST). If you don't you will break paint and cry your way off the field (or use the aforementioned squeegee to clean out all the paint in the barrel and off the bolt before you ever shoot another straight shot). The good old days. I am thinking of starting up another team for fun down here in Fort Lauderdale. Anyone have any favorite fields down here?

09-29-2003, 09:33 PM	#36
evildick Guest Posts: n/a	Here's what you need: If it's hotlink protected click here: http://www.tippmann.com/home/hhound/hhound.html

09-29-2003, 09:53 PM	#37
Jamie Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: CelebPay.com Posts: 2,517	I started playing PB 8 months ago, I started with the most expensive gun I could find. At that time it was the E-Orracle made by WGP (WORR) Autococker. Ended up spending $3,000 on all the gear. If anyone plays at Tombstone, Hollywood Sports, Jungle or SC Village, you'll find us. We'll be at Jungle this Sat if anyone is interested in meeting up. I run with the guys who work for WGP and we all have E-Orracles, 22+ balls a second icq 18519335 __________________ CelebPay: Promote Celebrity Reviews i/c/q - :1851935

09-29-2003, 10:35 PM	#38
Chaldoray Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 2,868	add me on aim at nickopray or icq at 237842929 i want to talk more about these paintball guns. I'm from san diego :P

09-29-2003, 10:44 PM	#40
-=HOAX=- Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: CrackYaMental Posts: 4,365	Personally an automag or minimag would be my choice. They're durable as al hell upgradable to compete with those angel's and cockers and the most important factor...they hold their value. You can buy and old ass automag, clean it up put a new trigger and valve on it and you're competting at a very high level. And when you've trashed the hell out of it...you can still get a decent price for it... Check out ebay, you'll find that the mags are all about the same price while it seems you'll fnd most all other guns will be varying widely in price, why? Because when they get beat up a bit they die...you will definitely need co2 with a mag, but that goes true with most any gun if you want to compete. I've seen some tricked out mags get 9 to 13 balls per second too...same as an angel, and not suffer much drop off. But the spray and pray method has never been my style...which is why I went with a mag...my accuracy is dead on... __________________ Insert Value Here.

09-29-2003, 10:47 PM	#41
-=HOAX=- Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: CrackYaMental Posts: 4,365	Not only that...PB is an expensive habit...and I've watched a ton of kids buy a brand new this and that...get into it and find they couldn't keep up money wise...I'd say get a decent but not overly pricey gun and save some money for some field time. If you burnout in 4 months and you've got a $1200 gun on your hands...you'll be seling it for $800...and losing money. __________________ Insert Value Here.