4 year-old boy shoots 5 year-old sister

[BRISK]

http://www.news-leader.com/today/092...nd-177524.html

[pamphage]

"Richardson said the 4-year-old cannot be held criminally responsible, but the parents or other adults connected to the house could potentially face charges of leaving the young children unattended or leaving the gun where the children could get it."

uh yeah. i would hope so

[sacX]

now wait for the anti-gun crowd to come out and blame everyone, everything but the fact the weapon existed.

[bhutocracy]

the parents should be shot.

[spamofon]

the parents

[Kevin2]

thats sad. Why the hell do adults leave loaded guns where kids can get hold of them

[JDog]

did this happen a couple years ago too?

put the parents away! they shouldn't leave shit like that out, fucking a, a four yr old!

jDoG

[Mutt]

yes i shot my sister too, but she got up every time, she was like the Terminator, nothing could stop her. she was very overweight as a child so i think that's what saved her.

[Lane]

would this have happened if people were not allowed any guns except hunting rifles?

would this have happened if the parents were not stupid enough and maybe more educated?


one can be done with a single law, the other takes generations to change.

[eroswebmaster]

Follow up to that article.

When Billy showed up to the playground all the children stepped asid at the slide and let him go first.

[pamphage]

Originally posted by Mutt
yes i shot my sister too, but she got up every time, she was like the Terminator, nothing could stop her. she was very overweight as a child so i think that's what saved her.

[hyper]

this is better, from the same page

Gorilla escapes zoo, injures toddler, teen

Boston ? A restless gorilla broke out of its zoo enclosure Sunday, injuring a 2-year-old and a teenager before it was sedated and recaptured almost two hours later, zoo officials said.

The gorilla escaped from the Franklin Park Zoo minutes before the zoo was scheduled to close, Zoo New England CEO and President John Linehan said.

The gorilla injured the young girl and an 18-year-old woman almost immediately after escaping, Linehan said. A witness said she later saw the 5-foot, 300-pound adolescent gorilla sitting at a bus stop on a street near the zoo.

[BRISK]

What kind of parents would leave a loaded semi-automatic handgun out where their kids can just pick it up?

Stupid parents, and now their 5 year old daughter is dead.

[eroswebmaster]

Originally posted by hyper
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A witness said she later saw the 5-foot, 300-pound adolescent gorilla sitting at a bus stop on a street near the zoo.

he was hangin' with the homies.

[BRISK]

Another article

http://www.sunspot.net/news/local/ba...ocal-headlines

[Tuga]

This shit only happens in a country where having a gun in the house is like having a refrigerator or a tv. Makes me sick.

[blazin]

Originally posted by Mutt
yes i shot my sister too, but she got up every time, she was like the Terminator, nothing could stop her. she was very overweight as a child so i think that's what saved her.

Somehow I fail to see the funny side

[brand0n]

[jennym]

Originally posted by Lane
would this have happened if people were not allowed any guns except hunting rifles?

would this have happened if the parents were not stupid enough and maybe more educated?


one can be done with a single law, the other takes generations to change.

Stupid case to use for gun-bashing!! A 4 yr. old and 5 yr old were left home alone by stupid fucking parents!! They could have died in a fire, drowned in the tub, went outside and got hit by a car, choked on a piece of fucking candy....should we make matches, baths, cars, and candy illegal too because there are stupid fucking morons in this country??? (this includes you for that stupid fucking comment!!)


aahhh...breathe...sorry

I have a 9 year old daughter, and a gun. I have NEVER left my daughter home alone...not because of the gun, but because of everything else!

[LadyMischief]

Originally posted by BRISK
What kind of parents would leave a loaded semi-automatic handgun out where their kids can just pick it up?

Stupid parents, and now their 5 year old daughter is dead.

That pretty much sums it up. Owning guns is not a bad thing. When there are children, the children should be protected the guns kept under lock and key. It's fucking criminal that the gun was available that readily to the children. The loss of innocent life is criminal, and were it not for the other child, both parents should fucking go to jail.

[12clicks]

Originally posted by Lane
would this have happened if people were not allowed any guns except hunting rifles?

would this have happened if the parents were not stupid enough and maybe more educated?


one can be done with a single law, the other takes generations to change.

oh, the silliness of youth.

[djdez]

Originally posted by jennym


Stupid case to use for gun-bashing!! A 4 yr. old and 5 yr old were left home alone by stupid fucking parents!! They could have died in a fire, drowned in the tub, went outside and got hit by a car, choked on a piece of fucking candy....should we make matches, baths, cars, and candy illegal too because there are stupid fucking morons in this country??? (this includes you for that stupid fucking comment!!)


aahhh...breathe...sorry

I have a 9 year old daughter, and a gun. I have NEVER left my daughter home alone...not because of the gun, but because of everything else!

It's a perfect case to demonstrate how dangerous handguns are. Handguns will kill the innocent and even one innocent life taken is too much of a price to pay....let alone the thousands that are taken every year.

[jennym]

I don't think the gun was the dangerouse part of this equation - stupid fucking parents were - as I said those children could have died any number of ways.

It is very tragic, but we cannot protect the world because some people are stupid an irresponsible.

I guess you think alcohol should be illegal because so many people use it irresponsibly by drinking and driving and killing innocent people every day???

[jennym]

Originally posted by djdez

even one innocent life taken is too much of a price to pay...

To high of a price for who? Not for me! There are many things in this world that kill people, but I don't want my right to own something (like a steak knife) taken away because there are stupid fucks in this world!

[loverboy]

tragic, the parents are solely reponsible for this incident.

[BRISK]

Originally posted by jennym


To high of a price for who? Not for me! There are many things in this world that kill people, but I don't want my right to own something (like a steak knife) taken away because there are stupid fucks in this world!

A good argument could be made that most other things in this world have a primary purpose for existing, and it isn't killing humans. (ie: a steak knife exists to cut steak, a baseball bat exist to play baseball, etc...). People might occasionally get killed by those things, but thats not what those things main purpose is for.

Hand guns exist for only one purpose, to kill humans.

[C_U_Next_Tuesday]

Originally posted by jennym
I don't think the gun was the dangerouse part of this equation - stupid fucking parents were - as I said those children could have died any number of ways.

It is very tragic, but we cannot protect the world because some people are stupid an irresponsible.

I guess you think alcohol should be illegal because so many people use it irresponsibly by drinking and driving and killing innocent people every day???

excellent point! Alcohol is way more dangerous than guns...especially when combined with a moving vehicle....does anyone have any statistics on the deaths from alcohol...

I personally have known more people that have died from alcohol related deaths than from gunshots (probably would be different if i grew up in the hood)..

the parents are to blame for leaving the children home alone or unattended..

[Triple 6]

Originally posted by djdez


It's a perfect case to demonstrate how dangerous handguns are. Handguns will kill the innocent and even one innocent life taken is too much of a price to pay....let alone the thousands that are taken every year.

nope, it was a stupid example, and jennym put it in perspective.

In this situation, I dont blame the gun, or gun laws. I blame the PARENTS for

1. leaving children at home
2. having a loaded weapon in the house that was
3. not locked up

That gun could have been a sword, matches, drugs, alcohol, whatever the fuck. As a parent you should not leave dangerous things around where kids can get them. As a parent, you shouldnt leave your kids around home alone.

[jennym]

Originally posted by BRISK


A good argument could be made that most other things in this world have a primary purpose for existing, and it isn't killing humans. (ie: a steak knife exists to cut steak, a baseball bat exist to play baseball, etc...). People might occasionally get killed by those things, but thats not what those things main purpose is for.

Hand guns exist for only one purpose, to kill humans.

Point taken, and understood...HOWEVER, my point still stands. You cannot make something illegal, just because ignorant fucktards use that object illegally. My gun is used to LEGALLY protect myself, my child, and my property. It is for my protection...yes to take someone's life...but I will take a dumb mother fuckers life if he comes in my house to harm me or my child and never feel bad about it!!

[jennym]

wow...a lot of "f" words out of my mouth today...sorry.

I get really worked up on very few things, but this story combines two of them

children and guns

I hope nobody feels personally attacked by me, (this mainly goes to Lane)

sorry for the personal attack

[Lane]

Originally posted by jennym


Stupid case to use for gun-bashing!! A 4 yr. old and 5 yr old were left home alone by stupid fucking parents!! They could have died in a fire, drowned in the tub, went outside and got hit by a car, choked on a piece of fucking candy....should we make matches, baths, cars, and candy illegal too because there are stupid fucking morons in this country??? (this includes you for that stupid fucking comment!!)


aahhh...breathe...sorry

I have a 9 year old daughter, and a gun. I have NEVER left my daughter home alone...not because of the gun, but because of everything else!

do you have another suggestion that will stop this from happening again? irresponsible parents will always exist

[jennym]

no, unfortunately I don't

Do you have a suggestion that will stop people from drowning their children, burning them, starving them, or beating them to death?

[grogan]

happens alot.


there's a 9.95 trigger lock at walmart. guess your kids aren't worth the ten-spot.

[uranidiot]

Originally posted by BRISK
http://www.news-leader.com/today/092...nd-177524.html

Guns don't kill people. People kill people.

[Triple 6]

Originally posted by jennym
no, unfortunately I don't

Do you have a suggestion that will stop people from drowning their children, burning them, starving them, or beating them to death?

[Triple 6]

this all really boils down to the parents. thats it.

[smack]

now i'm going to go out on a limb here and make a couple assumtions. i have my 9mm auto pistol sitting right here next to me. first off. it NEVER EVER sits around loaded unless it is in my holster in my pants. other than that the bullets are out and in a different place. secondly, for a 4 year to be able to shoot that gun, there HAD TO BE a round in the chamber. there's no way around it, a 4 year is NOT PHYSICALLY strong enough to cock a slide. it's not possible. which means that the parents have allowed a long string of dangerous situations to pile up before something bad happened.

rest assured, if and when i have kids several things will happen.
1.) they will know not to FUCK with dad's guns
2.) they will know how to safely operate and unload a firearm.
3.) i will NEVER EVER leave a loaded handgun, ESPECIALLY WITH A ROUND IN THE CHAMBER, anywhere that a child could get their hands on it.

you know when i was a child alot of my friends parents had guns laying around in closets and attics. now here is the moral of the story. i was taught how to properly handle a gun, and i knew they were dangerous, and therefore NEVER fucked around.

so the moral of the story is, lock up the guns, and educate the kids.

[smack]

Originally posted by grogan
happens alot.


there's a 9.95 trigger lock at walmart. guess your kids aren't worth the ten-spot.

AMEN, that about sums it up grogan. what lengths are you willing to goto to keep your kids safe. for these people apperently not alot.

[jennym]

Originally posted by smack
now i'm going to go out on a limb here and make a couple assumtions. i have my 9mm auto pistol sitting right here next to me. first off. it NEVER EVER sits around loaded unless it is in my holster in my pants. other than that the bullets are out and in a different place. secondly, for a 4 year to be able to shoot that gun, there HAD TO BE a round in the chamber. there's no way around it, a 4 year is NOT PHYSICALLY strong enough to cock a slide. it's not possible. which means that the parents have allowed a long string of dangerous situations to pile up before something bad happened.

rest assured, if and when i have kids several things will happen.
1.) they will know not to FUCK with dad's guns
2.) they will know how to safely operate and unload a firearm.
3.) i will NEVER EVER leave a loaded handgun, ESPECIALLY WITH A ROUND IN THE CHAMBER, anywhere that a child could get their hands on it.

you know when i was a child alot of my friends parents had guns laying around in closets and attics. now here is the moral of the story. i was taught how to properly handle a gun, and i knew they were dangerous, and therefore NEVER fucked around.

so the moral of the story is, lock up the guns, and educate the kids.

Agree on most points. I, like most people, have the belief that "my child knows better". She does not go anywhere near my closet without permission. Many children though will do things they know to be wrong when parents are not around. Therefore, my child is not left unsupervised, so she doesn't have the opportunity to make that mistake.

I also agree on the point about a round in the chamber....my gun doesn't have one in the chamber, and my child is not physically strong enough to pull the slide back.

[plexer]

Originally posted by pamphage
"Richardson said the 4-year-old cannot be held criminally responsible, but the parents or other adults connected to the house could potentially face charges of leaving the young children unattended or leaving the gun where the children could get it."

uh yeah. i would hope so

Agreeed!

[smack]

Originally posted by jennym


Agree on most points. I, like most people, have the belief that "my child knows better". She does not go anywhere near my closet without permission. Many children though will do things they know to be wrong when parents are not around. Therefore, my child is not left unsupervised, so she doesn't have the opportunity to make that mistake.

I also agree on the point about a round in the chamber....my gun doesn't have one in the chamber, and my child is not physically strong enough to pull the slide back.

my entire childhood was based on doing things my parents told me not too. lol. that's why they gotta know, but they also need not be given the opprotunity.

and shit some of my 25 year old female friends are strong enough to load my .acp

[BuggyG]

well got a right to own a gun. As it says in their consitution. BUT!! To sum it all up, onl Homer Simpson ever gave the best reason for having a gun. "Do YOU want the King of England to com and take you land back??" Or something along the ways.

Anyone know the exact wording?!?!? And seriously.. am I the only one that thinks Homer always gives a good reason for everything??

[Stud Money]

Guns dont kill people - Bullets do.

But in all seriousness, those parents should never be allowed to have another kid and the one thats left alive should be taken away for their own damn safety.

Stupid fucking parents

[12clicks]

Originally posted by Lane


do you have another suggestion that will stop this from happening again? irresponsible parents will always exist

so will guns and the need for them.

[Fletch XXX]

And I watched Bowling For Columbine last night on pay per view.

[Triple 6]

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
And I watched Bowling For Columbine last night on pay per view.

a lot of that is BS

[tootie]

Here's the sad thing. We wouldn't NEED guns to protect ourselves if guns had never been invented at all. It's a really depressing thing to know that out of thousands of years of human evolution, some of our biggest "advances" are the invention of violent weapons like guns and bombs.

But I am not for gun control. Now that guns HAVE been invented, they ARE needed for protection. We don't have one, yet, but we have been considering it. But having small children in the house we would definately keep it locked up in an out-of-the-way location and I doubt the kids would ever even know we had it, much less where it was. And I certainly wouldn't leave them alone in the house NOW, and we don't even HAVE a gun yet.

Parents leaving their kids home alone with guns in the house... parents smoking so much dope around their kids that they know how to make a bomb at age 5... ARGH! But what's the solution? Adding mandatory drug testing for all parents once a month? Making parenting classes mandatory in middle school and again in high school? Obviously not, but what can be done?

Bad parents often spawn more bad parents. *sigh*

[jennym]

Originally posted by tootie
Here's the sad thing. We wouldn't NEED guns to protect ourselves if guns had never been invented at all.

I really hate to be in such a disagreeing mood today, but....

I do not only use my gun to protect myself from other people with guns, but evil horrible people of all kinds. If someone were coming in to my home to rape my child (not shoot her), I would still want the ability to shoot that son-of-a-bitch right between the eyes!

[Fletch XXX]

Originally posted by Triple 6


a lot of that is BS

Interviews can hardly be bullshit.

I have read the Michael Moore is a liar sites, but I still took it upon myself to watch the movie and compare it for myself and THINK FOR MYSELF.

I stated not whether any part was true or false, but interviews and facts speak louder than someone on a message board saying 'a lot of that is bullshit.'

The dates and facts of leaders we have put in, removed, aided, trained, supplied chemicals to, okayed assination of, and given billions to is hardly incorrect, and is both valid, and accurate.

What exactly is BS in it, if you dont mind me asking?

And dont just hit me with a link.

Think for yourself

;)

[wizz]