What do you guys think is better: Partnership or Per Signup?? - GoFuckYourself.com

tranza · 09-27-2003, 02:01 PM

What do you guys think is better: getting payed per signup (flat rate) or partnership programs??

Would like to hear some answer from affiliates and program owners, in which case do I make more money ??

Stud Money · 09-27-2003, 02:03 PM

You should use both types of program as a compliment to each other.

The signups offer a quick hit of $$$ however, as everyone knows the industry has ups and downs and that is where recurring programs come into play, affording you long term revenues to supplement the times when signup programs do not seem to be working for you

BTW, SEE SIG

natas · 09-27-2003, 02:04 PM

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Originally posted by Stud Money
You should use both types of program as a compliment to each other.

definately what he said

Tipsy · 09-27-2003, 02:05 PM

It's been said - both. Dpepends on a lot of factors not least of which is site quality. There is no right or wrong answer. Instead do a little work and see what makes you the most money as it's the only way to find out.

JasonB · 09-27-2003, 05:06 PM

Depends on the site. If the site is good & can retain, you'll make way more with recurring. ....problem is, it takes a few months to figure that out.

SomeCreep · 09-27-2003, 05:15 PM

all depends

Libertine · 09-27-2003, 05:18 PM

I like partnerships. Since I always pre-check sites I'm gonna promote, and only promote high quality sites, average income per signup for me is a lot more than any per-signup program pays

cath · 09-27-2003, 05:30 PM

I agree with those above who recommend a mix of per-signup and recurring ... the only caveat I'd add is that you should make sure in particular that your recurring sponsors are reputable, since you will be relying on their staying in business over the long haul.

Brad Mitchell · 09-27-2003, 09:01 PM

Just remember... money is money is money...

In theory what is supposed to happen is PPS factors the payout by assuming the risk and gives you all your money up front. Recurring pays you the same or perhaps a little more over a longer period of time.

In theory PPS would be your best bet if being shaved wasn't a concern. I'm not saying that all programs shave... but what I am saying is that there isn't any reason for a rev-share program to shave because it is risk adverse while theoretically a PPS site is risky which would tempt a program owner to shave. And don't kid yourself, there are huge affiliate programs that rely on shaving to be profitable.

In the end... you need to make a decision by evaluating what you're depositing. However, I recommend that all affiliates get to know their sponsors, make character judgements and ultimately send traffic to the people that they like and trust.

Cheers,

Brad

kenny · 09-27-2003, 09:04 PM

In the long run partnership works out better I think.

pps you may get more right away. But some of those partnership signups can bring you $250 over a period of time.

laura · 09-27-2003, 09:08 PM

i am not trying to threadjack, but a lot of very good points were made in this thread the other day

http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...pagen umber=1

lightspeed had some great stuff to say

Zebra · 09-27-2003, 09:11 PM

What do you think is better?
Black or White?
Chocolate or Vanilla?
Even or Odd?
Up or Down?

It depends on the situation and one answer does not fit every question.

kenny · 09-27-2003, 09:12 PM

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Originally posted by laura
i am not trying to threadjack, but a lot of very good points were made in this thread the other day

http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...pagen umber=1

lightspeed had some great stuff to say

Lightspeed is one of the better partnership programs. Over a period of time a partnership program like LS will exceed a pps program income wise. IMHO

beemk · 09-27-2003, 09:15 PM

i think revshare if the program is good and can keep the members. i've promoted some revshare that in the long run, only generated between 10 and 20 dollars for a signup on average.

Ray@TastyDollars · 09-27-2003, 09:30 PM

Per sign up rocks for the first 1-2 weeks. They they see your bringing to many sign ups so they start to shave you. How do you know? Easy..week 1 and 2 you'll do 1:100 to 1:300, bringing in 5-10 sales a day, depending on how much TGP traffic you got. After that period you'll see your ratios gradully rise to 1:500 then 1:1000. Thats when you should change sponsor and go with recurring.

Or maybe its just me

kenny · 09-27-2003, 09:34 PM

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Originally posted by Ray
Per sign up rocks for the first 1-2 weeks. They they see your bringing to many sign ups so they start to shave you. How do you know? Easy..week 1 and 2 you'll do 1:100 to 1:300, bringing in 5-10 sales a day, depending on how much TGP traffic you got. After that period you'll see your ratios gradully rise to 1:500 then 1:1000. Thats when you should change sponsor and go with recurring.

Or maybe its just me

Oh no.. I have pps programs that bring those ratios a year after I joined. For example there is a site converting 1:150 with TGP traffic at the rate of $35 pps in my line up. Has been for 3 months.

partnership is something I notice several months after I start pushing them. People with more traffic can probably tell alot sooner.

Dealing internet porn is like my constructive hobby.

Ic3m4nZ · 09-27-2003, 09:37 PM

If you are on a sponsor that have sites that update the content at least 2 times per month take partnership so you'll have more $$ with recurring ..

and if they never update and their sites sucks then take per signup..

spooky181 · 09-27-2003, 09:46 PM

I know with the extreme uniqueness of my site, plus the plentifull amount of content, that my affiliates are better off with partnership. My site has only been going for a year but already I have many members that have been with me for the whole time. if the site you are promoting has a niche that is not saturated and has plenty of content then go for partnership, you will make far more money in the long run.

Spooky

Matt_WildCash · 09-27-2003, 10:06 PM

If you have a unique site, updated everyday with a absolute KILLER members area you can make more money with Recurring. Recurring sucks for sites with small members area or lack of updates and memberships that cost $40 just don't recur like $24.95 memberships.

Per signups can be good, but really a lot shave to stay in business. The big boys sites probably recur at about 1/10 per signup a month, stay away from big boys recurring programs they have no idea on recurring, they base their business around per signup and so try to suck as much money out of a signup as possible as fast as possible.

Kevin2 · 09-27-2003, 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JasonB
Depends on the site. If the site is good & can retain, you'll make way more with recurring. ....problem is, it takes a few months to figure that out.

Yup I agree

GTS Mark · 09-27-2003, 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SinEmpire
Just remember... money is money is money...

In theory what is supposed to happen is PPS factors the payout by assuming the risk and gives you all your money up front. Recurring pays you the same or perhaps a little more over a longer period of time.

In theory PPS would be your best bet if being shaved wasn't a concern. I'm not saying that all programs shave... but what I am saying is that there isn't any reason for a rev-share program to shave because it is risk adverse while theoretically a PPS site is risky which would tempt a program owner to shave. And don't kid yourself, there are huge affiliate programs that rely on shaving to be profitable.

In the end... you need to make a decision by evaluating what you're depositing. However, I recommend that all affiliates get to know their sponsors, make character judgements and ultimately send traffic to the people that they like and trust.

Cheers,

Brad

Excellent response

DH

Resolute · 09-27-2003, 11:25 PM

As our members stick like glue !! because we have regular updates, extensive members content, great customer service but most of all - 100% Original Content !!

We have found the best model to be partnership !

The only things we shave..... are our boys

You get paid directly from Ibill or CC Bill

berg.the.red · 09-28-2003, 01:03 AM

after taking it in the shorts from GloBIll and a few comments from some program owners here: per sign up. take the money and run. somebody who pays weekly. and no minimum payout is even better. while recurring is nice in some instances, i also know how much i HAVEN'T made on partner programs because the surfer didn't convert to a recurring. if i had gone per sign up --i would have had that thirty-something per surfer ...

09-27-2003, 02:01 PM	#1
tranza ICQ: 197-556-237 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: BRASIL !!! Posts: 57,559	What do you guys think is better: Partnership or Per Signup?? What do you guys think is better: getting payed per signup (flat rate) or partnership programs?? Would like to hear some answer from affiliates and program owners, in which case do I make more money ?? __________________ I'm just a newbie.

09-27-2003, 02:05 PM	#4
Tipsy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: See sig Posts: 6,989	It's been said - both. Dpepends on a lot of factors not least of which is site quality. There is no right or wrong answer. Instead do a little work and see what makes you the most money as it's the only way to find out. __________________ Ignorance is never bliss.

09-27-2003, 05:15 PM	#6
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09-27-2003, 05:18 PM	#7
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09-27-2003, 05:30 PM	#8
cath Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: 117-764-795 Posts: 268	I agree with those above who recommend a mix of per-signup and recurring ... the only caveat I'd add is that you should make sure in particular that your recurring sponsors are reputable, since you will be relying on their staying in business over the long haul. __________________ ...

09-27-2003, 02:03 PM	#2
Stud Money So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Somewhere between my monitor and my chair Posts: 3,214	You should use both types of program as a compliment to each other. The signups offer a quick hit of $$$ however, as everyone knows the industry has ups and downs and that is where recurring programs come into play, affording you long term revenues to supplement the times when signup programs do not seem to be working for you BTW, SEE SIG

09-27-2003, 05:06 PM	#5
JasonB Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,183	Depends on the site. If the site is good & can retain, you'll make way more with recurring. ....problem is, it takes a few months to figure that out.

09-27-2003, 09:01 PM	#9
Brad Mitchell Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Southfield, MI Posts: 9,812	Just remember... money is money is money... In theory what is supposed to happen is PPS factors the payout by assuming the risk and gives you all your money up front. Recurring pays you the same or perhaps a little more over a longer period of time. In theory PPS would be your best bet if being shaved wasn't a concern. I'm not saying that all programs shave... but what I am saying is that there isn't any reason for a rev-share program to shave because it is risk adverse while theoretically a PPS site is risky which would tempt a program owner to shave. And don't kid yourself, there are huge affiliate programs that rely on shaving to be profitable. In the end... you need to make a decision by evaluating what you're depositing. However, I recommend that all affiliates get to know their sponsors, make character judgements and ultimately send traffic to the people that they like and trust. Cheers, Brad __________________ President at MojoHost \| brad at mojohost dot com \| Skype MojoHostBrad 71 industry awards for hosting and professional excellence since 1999

09-27-2003, 09:04 PM	#10
kenny Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 7,245	In the long run partnership works out better I think. pps you may get more right away. But some of those partnership signups can bring you $250 over a period of time.

09-27-2003, 09:08 PM	#11
laura Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Digital Nomad, but based in New England Posts: 945	i am not trying to threadjack, but a lot of very good points were made in this thread the other day http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...pagen umber=1 lightspeed had some great stuff to say

09-27-2003, 09:11 PM	#12
Zebra Banned from Kimmy's couch Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Down at Fraggle Rock Posts: 5,091	What do you think is better? Black or White? Chocolate or Vanilla? Even or Odd? Up or Down? It depends on the situation and one answer does not fit every question. __________________ Old School

09-27-2003, 09:15 PM	#14
beemk CLICK HERE Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 20,829	i think revshare if the program is good and can keep the members. i've promoted some revshare that in the long run, only generated between 10 and 20 dollars for a signup on average. __________________ I host with Vacares

09-27-2003, 09:30 PM	#15
Ray@TastyDollars www.TastyDollars.com Join Date: May 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 6,797	Per sign up rocks for the first 1-2 weeks. They they see your bringing to many sign ups so they start to shave you. How do you know? Easy..week 1 and 2 you'll do 1:100 to 1:300, bringing in 5-10 sales a day, depending on how much TGP traffic you got. After that period you'll see your ratios gradully rise to 1:500 then 1:1000. Thats when you should change sponsor and go with recurring. Or maybe its just me __________________ The nets best interracial and cuckold site The nets hottest teen site ICQ me: 161 375 873

09-27-2003, 09:37 PM	#17
Ic3m4nZ Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Montreal! Posts: 6,285	If you are on a sponsor that have sites that update the content at least 2 times per month take partnership so you'll have more $$ with recurring .. and if they never update and their sites sucks then take per signup..

09-27-2003, 09:46 PM	#18
spooky181 Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: back of beyond Posts: 2,951	I know with the extreme uniqueness of my site, plus the plentifull amount of content, that my affiliates are better off with partnership. My site has only been going for a year but already I have many members that have been with me for the whole time. if the site you are promoting has a niche that is not saturated and has plenty of content then go for partnership, you will make far more money in the long run. Spooky

09-27-2003, 10:06 PM	#19
Matt_WildCash Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,699	If you have a unique site, updated everyday with a absolute KILLER members area you can make more money with Recurring. Recurring sucks for sites with small members area or lack of updates and memberships that cost $40 just don't recur like $24.95 memberships. Per signups can be good, but really a lot shave to stay in business. The big boys sites probably recur at about 1/10 per signup a month, stay away from big boys recurring programs they have no idea on recurring, they base their business around per signup and so try to suck as much money out of a signup as possible as fast as possible.

09-27-2003, 11:25 PM	#22
Resolute Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,143	As our members stick like glue !! because we have regular updates, extensive members content, great customer service but most of all - 100% Original Content !! We have found the best model to be partnership ! The only things we shave..... are our boys You get paid directly from Ibill or CC Bill __________________ [email protected] ICQ 325624405

09-28-2003, 01:03 AM	#23
berg.the.red Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Right Here. Right Now. Posts: 596	after taking it in the shorts from GloBIll and a few comments from some program owners here: per sign up. take the money and run. somebody who pays weekly. and no minimum payout is even better. while recurring is nice in some instances, i also know how much i HAVEN'T made on partner programs because the surfer didn't convert to a recurring. if i had gone per sign up --i would have had that thirty-something per surfer ... __________________ Need a Dedicated Box with BALLS ? How about a Dedicated Server starting at just $49 per month.