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uranidiot 09-27-2003 02:26 PM

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Originally posted by 12clicks

Yes, he's been truthfull about everything. prove me wrong.

That's just incredible. Someone who believes politicians.

Oh well, I guess there's one born every minute.

12clicks 09-27-2003 02:27 PM

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Originally posted by cluck


God even Bill O'Reiley thinks Coulter goes way too far. She actually thinks she's gotten a generation of democrats to believe that McCarthy was a hero. Dumb bitch needs to get her head out of her twat.

he thinks she goes too far by calling treason treason. I don't.
McCarthy was a hero. You have no idea how many government spies were in our government during the cold war.

12clicks 09-27-2003 02:28 PM

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Originally posted by uranidiot


That's just incredible. Someone who believes politicians.

Oh well, I guess there's one born every minute.

how cute. again, you have no facts, no ideas, just your cute little liberal slogans.
good luck with life dopey.:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

uranidiot 09-27-2003 02:28 PM

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Originally posted by 12clicks


is this your way of dodging my question about Bush';s lies?

liberals are cute with their play ground phases of "That says everything anyone needs to know about you" and
"I might have some real estate to sell you"

but of substance you have none.

Coulter is a head case. Right and left wingers agree on this.

Saying the things she does, in any other time in history she'd probably be committed.

But instead, Fox put her on TV.

cluck 09-27-2003 02:30 PM

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Originally posted by 12clicks


he thinks she goes too far by calling treason treason. I don't.
McCarthy was a hero. You have no idea how many government spies were in our government during the cold war.

The end doesn't justify the means.

12clicks 09-27-2003 02:30 PM

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Originally posted by uranidiot


Coulter is a head case. Right and left wingers agree on this.

Saying the things she does, in any other time in history she'd probably be committed.

But instead, Fox put her on TV.

keep toeing the liberal party line, you'll convert us, I swear.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

12clicks 09-27-2003 02:31 PM

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Originally posted by cluck


The end doesn't justify the means.

you don't even know the means. the movie you got your "facts" from is wrong.

uranidiot 09-27-2003 02:33 PM

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Originally posted by 12clicks


how cute. again, you have no facts, no ideas, just your cute little liberal slogans.
good luck with life dopey.:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

You admitted you believe everything that comes out of a politician's mouth.

That truly is shocking.

Talk about gullible.

Oh well.

I have plenty of examples. But you'll have a standard answer for each one I'm sure.

Like for example:

This war was based on the threat of WMD's. None have been found.

Was Bush lying, badly informed, or has Saddam hidden them all up his sleeve?

Can you give a straight answer to a straight question? I'd be interested to find out. I'm not holding my breath.

uranidiot 09-27-2003 02:35 PM

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Originally posted by 12clicks


keep toeing the liberal party line, you'll convert us, I swear.


I've no interest in "converting" anyone. Just wondering if you can be at all pragmatic.

I know you believe what you say. But I'd like to see if you actually have any facts to back up your beliefs, or are you so blinded by idiology?

titmowse 09-27-2003 02:38 PM

A woman named Coulter cried "Treason."
She did it without any reason.
Though we know that she lied,
'Twas perhaps justified:
On her brain, I'm afraid, there's a lesion.


CHAPTER 3/ You Know Who I Don't Like? Ann Coulter - from 'Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them' by Al Franken

:Graucho

12clicks 09-27-2003 02:38 PM

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Originally posted by uranidiot


You admitted you believe everything that comes out of a politician's mouth.

That truly is shocking.

Talk about gullible.

Oh well.

I have plenty of examples. But you'll have a standard answer for each one I'm sure.

Like for example:

This war was based on the threat of WMD's. None have been found.

Was Bush lying, badly informed, or has Saddam hidden them all up his sleeve?

Can you give a straight answer to a straight question? I'd be interested to find out. I'm not holding my breath.

He had 10 years to hide them up his sleeve.

here's a link to PBS, you know, that bastion of right wing lies.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/front.../defectors.html
to quote:
n 1995, Saddam Hussein actually appeared to be winning in his strategy of cheat and retreat. He had actually managed to hide so many of his weapons that many of the U.N. weapons inspectors thought that he had turned over most of them, and were prepared to make that kind of recommendation. And it was only on the defection of his son-in-law and cousin [Kamel] that the international community realized how much he really still had. The whole crisis actually might have ended at that point, if it hadn't been for that very ... defection. ...

so, if not because of *ONE* bit of luck (saddam's son in law's defection) the UN and the hey, saddam is really a good guy" europeans would have given iraq a clean bill of health about WMDs only to be fooled again


got any other lies, fool?
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

uno 09-27-2003 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks


is this your way of dodging my question about Bush';s lies?

liberals are cute with their play ground phases of "That says everything anyone needs to know about you" and
"I might have some real estate to sell you"

but of substance you have none.

You sound like Death in Monty Python's the meaning of life.

12clicks 09-27-2003 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by titmowse
A woman named Coulter cried "Treason."
She did it without any reason.
Though we know that she lied,
'Twas perhaps justified:
On her brain, I'm afraid, there's a lesion.


CHAPTER 3/ You Know Who I Don't Like? Ann Coulter - from 'Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them' by Al Franken

:Graucho

I love people who take their political guide from a failed comedian.

uranidiot 09-27-2003 02:43 PM

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Originally posted by 12clicks


He had 10 years to hide them up his sleeve.

here's a link to PBS, you know, that bastion of right wing lies.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/front.../defectors.html
to quote:
n 1995, Saddam Hussein actually appeared to be winning in his strategy of cheat and retreat. He had actually managed to hide so many of his weapons that many of the U.N. weapons inspectors thought that he had turned over most of them, and were prepared to make that kind of recommendation. And it was only on the defection of his son-in-law and cousin [Kamel] that the international community realized how much he really still had. The whole crisis actually might have ended at that point, if it hadn't been for that very ... defection. ...

so, if not because of *ONE* bit of luck (saddam's son in law's defection) the UN and the hey, saddam is really a good guy" europeans would have given iraq a clean bill of health about WMDs only to be fooled again


It's common knowledge he HAD WMD's.

The Iraq war was to get rid of the threat of them NOW.

That was the basis for the quick march to war.

No WMD's have yet to be found.

Maybe he did have WMD's but he would have had to hide them fucking well.

And if they're so well hidden, could they really have been deployed in 45 minutes?

The whole point is: this war was waged against "the threat of WMD's"

None have been found.

I'm sure Bush and Co had their reasons to go to war, but the evidence points towards the threat of WMD's not being a credible one.

So was he lying, or just badly informed?

titmowse 09-27-2003 02:45 PM

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Originally posted by 12clicks


I love people who take their political guide from a failed comedian.

failed. hmmm. let's see: original writer for saturday night live. performer on same show. fairly successful box office on movie starring himself as character from saturday night live. now author of TWO NYT bestselling books...failed.

12clicks 09-27-2003 02:46 PM

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Originally posted by uranidiot



It's common knowledge he HAD WMD's.

The Iraq war was to get rid of the threat of them NOW.

That was the basis for the quick march to war.

No WMD's have yet to be found.

Maybe he did have WMD's but he would have had to hide them fucking well.

And if they're so well hidden, could they really have been deployed in 45 minutes?

The whole point is: this war was waged against "the threat of WMD's"

None have been found.

I'm sure Bush and Co had their reasons to go to war, but the evidence points towards the threat of WMD's not being a credible one.

So was he lying, or just badly informed?

ahhhh, so its ok for saddam to *have* WMD's as long as he doesn't wave them around.
silly liberal.

12clicks 09-27-2003 02:48 PM

also, saddam hussien hasn't been found yet either. does that mean he never existed?
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

face it, if your president isn't getting blow jobs from ugly chicks, you just can't identify with him

uranidiot 09-27-2003 02:51 PM

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Originally posted by 12clicks


ahhhh, so its ok for saddam to *have* WMD's as long as he doesn't wave them around.

Actually, what I said was he USED to have WMD's. We know that.

The UN largely disarmed him.

Maybe he had some left over. Do we know for sure? No. Because no one can find them.

So in your eyes, was there a credible threat from WMD's? Why when none have been found?

If there was, are you saying that the US and UK armies are so incompetant that 100,000+ soldiers can't find them?

12clicks 09-27-2003 02:51 PM

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Originally posted by titmowse


failed. hmmm. let's see: original writer for saturday night live. performer on same show.

former. very former.
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Originally posted by titmowse
fairly successful box office on movie starring himself as character from saturday night live.
10 years ago? you and I have a different idea of success.
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Originally posted by titmowse

now author of TWO NYT bestselling books...failed.

were they joke books? I didn't know.

but hey, I'll conceed your point.

I love people who take their political guide from a comedian :1orglaugh

12clicks 09-27-2003 02:53 PM

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Originally posted by uranidiot


Actually, what I said was he USED to have WMD's. We know that.

The UN largely disarmed him.

Maybe he had some left over. Do we know for sure? No. Because no one can find them.

So in your eyes, was there a credible threat from WMD's? Why when none have been found?

If there was, are you saying that the US and UK armies are so incompetant that 100,000+ soldiers can't find them?

then you *do* believe there was no such thing as saddam hussien!
The UN saw him before the war too but now he's gone. I guess he, like the WMDs, don't exist.

uranidiot 09-27-2003 02:54 PM

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Originally posted by 12clicks
also, saddam hussien hasn't been found yet either. does that mean he never existed?
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

face it, if your president isn't getting blow jobs from ugly chicks, you just can't identify with him

Two spurious arguments in an otherwise possibly interesting conversation.

Stay on subject 12clicks. Prove to us you're more than emoticons and tired insults.

12clicks 09-27-2003 02:54 PM

oh, to live in such a simple world.:thumbsup

eroswebmaster 09-27-2003 02:54 PM

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Originally posted by 12clicks


were they joke books? I didn't know.

but hey, I'll conceed your point.

I love people who take their political guide from a comedian :1orglaugh

political satirists, and humorists have been around for centuries, and I'm sure there are a few you've enjoyed...what's your point?

uranidiot 09-27-2003 02:56 PM

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Originally posted by 12clicks


then you *do* believe there was no such thing as saddam hussien!
The UN saw him before the war too but now he's gone. I guess he, like the WMDs, don't exist.

Which syllable of the word "disarmed" do you not understand?

Well?

12clicks 09-27-2003 02:56 PM

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Originally posted by uranidiot


Two spurious arguments in an otherwise possibly interesting conversation.

Stay on subject 12clicks. Prove to us you're more than emoticons and tired insults.

answer the question einstien. do you believe saddam exists even though we haven't found him yet?

he only had about a month to hide but had 10 years to hide his WMDs.

uranidiot 09-27-2003 02:57 PM

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Originally posted by 12clicks
oh, to live in such a simple world.:thumbsup
You're a disappointment.

You can trade insults, but not much more.

12clicks 09-27-2003 02:57 PM

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Originally posted by uranidiot


Which syllable of the word "disarmed" do you not understand?

Well?

I'm sure you have a link proving your disarmed *theory*

you can't just prattle on pretending your statements are facts.:1orglaugh

titmowse 09-27-2003 02:58 PM

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Originally posted by 12clicks
I love people who take their political guide from a comedian :1orglaugh
well, i'm glad you love me. i love you too even though you're an asshole. :winkwink:

12clicks 09-27-2003 02:58 PM

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Originally posted by uranidiot


You're a disappointment.

You can trade insults, but not much more.

ahhhh, when corned to proved facts or show reason, you resort to name calling.
typical liberal.:1orglaugh

12clicks 09-27-2003 02:59 PM

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Originally posted by titmowse


well, i'm glad you love me. i love you too even though you're an asshole. :winkwink:

I'm only an asshole to the wrong. :winkwink:

uranidiot 09-27-2003 03:01 PM

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Originally posted by 12clicks


ahhhh, when corned to proved facts or show reason, you resort to name calling.
typical liberal.:1orglaugh

I wonder if you see the irony in this post.

12clicks 09-27-2003 03:02 PM

well, I gotta go grill some stakes.
I'll pick this up later.

uranidiot 09-27-2003 03:02 PM

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Originally posted by 12clicks


I'm sure you have a link proving your disarmed *theory*

you can't just prattle on pretending your statements are facts.:1orglaugh

Do you actually keep up with the news?

After Iraq War I, the country was crawling with weapons inspectors with positive results.

I never said he was fully disarmed.

But again I ask - where are these weapons we invaded for?

Just answer me that one simple question. You probably won't.

titmowse 09-27-2003 03:03 PM

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Originally posted by 12clicks


I'm only an asshole to the wrong. :winkwink:

ahh. then i'm safe! :thumbsup

12clicks 09-27-2003 03:04 PM

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Originally posted by uranidiot


I wonder if you see the irony in this post.

yes, I see you making a statement you can't back up about disarming saddam and using a double standard about not finding WMDs or saddam and then going into name calling.

When I call you an idiot, I back it up with proof.:1orglaugh

Now while I'm away you can either run away or you can go get some facts on this fantom disarming of saddam
lets see what you do.:1orglaugh

12clicks 09-27-2003 03:07 PM

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Originally posted by uranidiot



I never said he was fully disarmed.

ahhh, backpeddle!

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Originally posted by uranidiot
But again I ask - where are these weapons we invaded for?

Just answer me that one simple question. You probably won't.

hidden as is saddam. if this is your best comeback, don't bother.
you're a joke.
when I return, I'll post all of hans blixes statements about WMDs that have not been accounted for. (there, you have plenty of time for a rebuttle)

kids these days asre so easy.

see you later. dinner's calling.

brand0n 09-27-2003 03:46 PM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
who the fuck is michael moore and why should I care?
go rent the movie amp, its a pretty good flick

uranidiot 09-27-2003 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks


hidden as is saddam. if this is your best comeback, don't bother.
you're a joke.
when I return, I'll post all of hans blixes statements about WMDs that have not been accounted for. (there, you have plenty of time for a rebuttle)

kids these days asre so easy.

see you later. dinner's calling.

As I already said, you're able to trade insults, but little of any substance.

I understand your political mentally exactly. You're pretty much a cliche. You're an extremist, who believes his president always speaks the truth, and thinks Coulter is an authority on anything.

Funny, funny, shit.

And you keep deflecting, and not actually answering a simple question -

Where are the WMD's we went to war over?

That's it.

We went to war because "There was a threat from WMD's"

NONE have been found.

That's it.

You can try to deflect this point or avoid the issue, but that is a fact.

You were duped.

And you don't seem to mind.

You'll retort to this with another lame comback. Or some facts you believe are related.

But you won't actually answer the question.

And that greatly makes me doubt the efficacy of your judgement.

If you can't see you were led into a war over false pretenses, then who am I to care?

Your obvious ignorance and naivity gives me plenty of entertainment.

ThunderBalls 09-27-2003 05:12 PM

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Originally posted by uranidiot


As I already said, you're able to trade insults, but little of any substance.

I understand your political mentally exactly. You're pretty much a cliche. You're an extremist, who believes his president always speaks the truth, and thinks Coulter is an authority on anything.

Funny, funny, shit.

And you keep deflecting, and not actually answering a simple question -

Where are the WMD's we went to war over?

That's it.

We went to war because "There was a threat from WMD's"

NONE have been found.

That's it.

You can try to deflect this point or avoid the issue, but that is a fact.

You were duped.

And you don't seem to mind.

You'll retort to this with another lame comback. Or some facts you believe are related.

But you won't actually answer the question.

And that greatly makes me doubt the efficacy of your judgement.

If you can't see you were led into a war over false pretenses, then who am I to care?

Your obvious ignorance and naivity gives me plenty of entertainment.


Not sure why you waste so much energy on this sick fuck. He is in some serious need of professional help but he'll never get it because in his mind all shrinks are liberals. His ability to survive this long with a severe mental handicap is a marvel of nature.

Lane 09-27-2003 05:15 PM

It is not proven that WMD's don't exist. So they must exist. Guilty until proven otherwise.


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