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Old 09-25-2003, 07:07 PM   #101
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Old 09-25-2003, 07:18 PM   #102
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I'll pay $45 per signup to anybody who leaves either of these programs with disgust because they convert about the same as a at 2.99 3 day trial... in fact i'll pay a no bullshit $50 per 2.99 trial to anybody who has good volume! :D

Bottom line is that what I've heard is this... these sites convert far worse than trials but make the program owners more money. Sure they've paid their good friends to post... sure their *best* converters will come on and post how wonderful their conversions are...but can you really trust those posts?

Be smart. Stick with what you know.

Whether it's pb, adult, quickbuck, trafficcash, silvercash or topbucks... send your traffic to cheap trials and you'l make more money
Dumbass.

Way to threadjack.
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Old 09-25-2003, 07:19 PM   #103
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I'll pay $45 per signup to anybody who leaves either of these programs with disgust because they convert about the same as a at 2.99 3 day trial... in fact i'll pay a no bullshit $50 per 2.99 trial to anybody who has good volume! :D

Bottom line is that what I've heard is this... these sites convert far worse than trials but make the program owners more money. Sure they've paid their good friends to post... sure their *best* converters will come on and post how wonderful their conversions are...but can you really trust those posts?

Be smart. Stick with what you know.

Whether it's pb, adult, quickbuck, trafficcash, silvercash or topbucks... send your traffic to cheap trials and you'l make more money
$50 for a 2.99 trial would be very nice
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Old 09-25-2003, 07:22 PM   #104
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I'll pay $45 per signup to anybody who leaves either of these programs with disgust because they convert about the same as a at 2.99 3 day trial... in fact i'll pay a no bullshit $50 per 2.99 trial to anybody who has good volume! :D

Bottom line is that what I've heard is this... these sites convert far worse than trials but make the program owners more money. Sure they've paid their good friends to post... sure their *best* converters will come on and post how wonderful their conversions are...but can you really trust those posts?

Be smart. Stick with what you know.

Whether it's pb, adult, quickbuck, trafficcash, silvercash or topbucks... send your traffic to cheap trials and you'l make more money
Hooper what makes you so certain that the $10 cheap memberships arent converting better?

Why are you jumping to say NO they dont convert better.

How do you know?

Educated guess?

That all your going on....

Try it out for a week

either program

10dollarcash.com or Discount pass Bucks.com

Try it...

then come in here and post your results.

I think your tone will change.

Not a selling pitch
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Old 09-25-2003, 07:22 PM   #105
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there is no *WOULD BE*.. ther is only *email or icq me*..

this is not a temporary offer.. this a serious deal. i have so much cash right now that my ass is bleeding bright green.

forget these losers who are trying to save their asses at your expense... send me your traffic and i'll pay you top dollar..

why should refunds or chargebacks be YOUR concern??? they shouldnt!!!!
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Old 09-25-2003, 07:24 PM   #106
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Dave..

i LOVE YOU.. you are a sexy bitch with a shaved head.. and i respect that..

but our $1.00 per month recurring for $25.00 is 1/10 your price and the same payout and i know it doesnt convert as good as you claim.

I HOPE you do well.. i love you and i love your program... but i just think that affiliates should know the truth before they waste thir traffic
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Old 09-25-2003, 07:24 PM   #107
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Old 09-25-2003, 07:26 PM   #108
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to quickbuck???

dude. you need to contact me or wiseman directly.. quickbuck isnt public like the other guys.

only the real deal webmasters get into our program... but hit me up.. if you arent full of shit i bet we can get you signed up and making FIFTY bucks per 2.99 trial real fast. :D
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Old 09-25-2003, 07:29 PM   #109
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http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...readid=179607\

that is all the proof i need.

$1 per month.. $1 per month recurring doesnt convert as well as some people are claiming that $10.00 per month converts.

Maybe i just didnt pay lens and crew enough to advertise.. or maybe i'm just a fuckin SHEEP... but bottom line is that $1.00 for 30 days.. or $1.00 monthly like we have will in no way ever convert worse than a $9.79 or $9.82 program will!

It's just my opinion.. but i've made millions in this biz.. and it aint by guessing wrong.
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Old 09-25-2003, 07:38 PM   #110
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Dude start your own thread.

Our launch your program and we'll discuss it in your thread.
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Old 09-25-2003, 07:45 PM   #111
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I'm starting to like this Hooper guy...
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Old 09-25-2003, 07:46 PM   #112
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Well, I figured out at least partly how the payout is made. As always, I signed up for one of the sites before pushing it to my surfers. Right after sign-in, I am presented with another trial membership site and a few more sites in the email confirmation
"As an added bonus, you can take all 3 sites for FREE.
This is an exclusive offer only for new members. Enjoy!
SPECIAL ONE TIME LIMITED MEMBER BONUS. NO GIMMICKS.
100% FREE.CLICK BELOW TO JOIN ALL 3!!".
FREE as in Free trials that rebill, that is.

So, it looks like this business model isn't so revolutionary after all.

Same old premise...get the surfer to join as many sites as possible. Count on him forgetting to cancel at least one or more trials. If they don't forget, then get them on the sneaky "trial must be cancelled at least 24 hours before end of trial" clause found a few hundered words down in the T & C.

So the surfer still has a very good chance of getting at least a couple of rebills they weren't counting on.

I'm not saying this won't make webmasters a ton of money. I am saying that, if you jumped on this like I did because you thought this might finally be giving the surfer a fair shake...well sorry to disappoint.

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Old 09-25-2003, 07:51 PM   #113
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Old 09-25-2003, 07:54 PM   #114
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Ok here is your answer.

1:38 is an incredible ratio. Highest quality I am sure.

So far the new billing model $10 sites is converting much better then $35 per signup programs.

Say for our email tests.

1:35 - 1:50 for email signups to teen pass and video pass

if that was a $35 a signup program or $40 might be 1:100 or 1:150

So the moral of the story is the program out converts other programs

$25 payout is going to make you more money if the ratio is HALF what you get when you send to $35 a signup program

1:100 X 1000 hits X $25.00 = $250.00

1:200 X 1000 hits X $35.00 = $175.00

bottom line...

The $10 sites CONVERT MUCH BETTER...
whoa 1:35 on email traffic? you must have those magical emails that the other million spammers don't have. these days 1:35 is more like join for free type programs for email traffic. do these 10$ joins convert better then free trials which people were paying 30$ a join
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Well, I figured out at least partly how the payout is made. As always, I signed up for one of the sites before pushing it to my surfers. Right after sign-in, I am presented with another trial membership site and a few more sites in the email confirmation
"As an added bonus, you can take all 3 sites for FREE.
This is an exclusive offer only for new members. Enjoy!
SPECIAL ONE TIME LIMITED MEMBER BONUS. NO GIMMICKS.
100% FREE.CLICK BELOW TO JOIN ALL 3!!".
FREE as in Free trials that rebill, that is.

So, it looks like this business model isn't so revolutionary after all.

Same old premise...get the surfer to join as many sites as possible. Count on him forgetting to cancel at least one or more trials. If they don't forget, then get them on the sneaky "trial must be cancelled at least 24 hours before end of trial" clause found a few hundered words down in the T & C.

So the surfer still has a very good chance of getting at least a couple of rebills they weren't counting on.

I'm not saying this won't make webmasters a ton of money. I am saying that, if you jumped on this like I did because you thought this might finally be giving the surfer a fair shake...well sorry to disappoint.

Those are Epoch cross sells in the confirmation email.

also when you quit they get those.

Its a common cross sell.
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Old 09-25-2003, 07:55 PM   #116
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i just bought that domain. you now owe me a dollar in comission you faggot. :D hehehe
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Old 09-25-2003, 07:57 PM   #117
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I'll pay $45 per signup to anybody who leaves either of these programs with disgust because they convert about the same as a at 2.99 3 day trial... in fact i'll pay a no bullshit $50 per 2.99 trial to anybody who has good volume! :D

Bottom line is that what I've heard is this... these sites convert far worse than trials but make the program owners more money. Sure they've paid their good friends to post... sure their *best* converters will come on and post how wonderful their conversions are...but can you really trust those posts?

Be smart. Stick with what you know.

Whether it's pb, adult, quickbuck, trafficcash, silvercash or topbucks... send your traffic to cheap trials and you'l make more money
true to that, they see either FREE TRIAL, 2.95$ TRIAL or 9.95$ MEMBERSHIP. which one would you join if you were horny as fuck? both of them launching these new sites seems kindove like a last ditch effort to get below 1% . if everybody sends a few sales would help alot for charge backs on their other sites. question. if these convert so much better, why don't you reduce the cost of all of your sites to 9.95$ since they make so much more? wouldn't you and the webmaster be making more?
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Old 09-25-2003, 07:58 PM   #118
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Hooper,

Don't make it stinky in here bro

Show Dave some love....
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Old 09-25-2003, 08:03 PM   #120
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I love dave. He's got a big bald head just like me.. and i love me! :D

Seriously though.. ok.. here's the official quote:

"Way to go Platinum dave and the whole platinum crew! You rock and your programs make my dick hard!"

better? ;-)
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Amp.. yesterday you were calling him everything but a bastard for ripping off your designs..

Did something change? Or did your master call you down?
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Old 09-25-2003, 08:04 PM   #122
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nice offical statement
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Old 09-25-2003, 08:05 PM   #123
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Ok I am back online now!!
I will be on all night answering Emails and Icq's of people wanting to sign up for QUICKBUCK
Keep em comeing!! You dont want to miss out on this offer of $50 per paid trial now!!!!!

If you cant reach either me or Hooper online my Cell # is 5096680000.. Thats will be on all night!!!!

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Old 09-25-2003, 08:07 PM   #124
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Amp.. yesterday you were calling him everything but a bastard for ripping off your designs..

Did something change? Or did your master call you down?
what the hell does any of that have to do with you spamming your shit in Dave's announcement thread?
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Old 09-25-2003, 08:13 PM   #125
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nothing.

i spam because i can sam i am.

i spam becaus i see what is right for the little man.

i spam because i spam.

i'm shocked to see how much the adult.com crew is willing to whore themselves out to the very people they were calling thieves last night.
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Old 09-25-2003, 08:20 PM   #126
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Ok I am back online now!!
I will be on all night answering Emails and Icq's of people wanting to sign up for QUICKBUCK
Keep em comeing!! You dont want to miss out on this offer of $50 per paid trial now!!!!!

If you cant reach either me or Hooper online my Cell # is 5096680000.. Thats will be on all night!!!!

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Are you the person sending me all the spam?

Same writing style.

Lots of $, !, and CAPITALS.

And shit grasp of English.
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nothing.

i spam because i can sam i am.

i spam becaus i see what is right for the little man.

i spam because i spam.

i'm shocked to see how much the adult.com crew is willing to whore themselves out to the very people they were calling thieves last night.
You're not the sharpest tool in the box are you?
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i spam because i can sam i am.

i spam becaus i see what is right for the little man.

i spam because i spam.

i'm shocked to see how much the adult.com crew is willing to whore themselves out to the very people they were calling thieves last night.
Fight the power... and ...

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You're not the sharpest tool in the box are you?
i am definitely not.

but. i am the sharpest tool in this box :D
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Its true..this is a lame program..

to pay 25.00 on a 10.00 trial is an outrageously poor payout

I could see if the biz was doing this adjustment but it still hasnt and this payout is an insult for that large of a trial.. they should pay at least double this.. and this pay structure isnt anything new.. heck I remember we started at this type of recurring..wait till those 1.00 chargebacks roll in..oy!

For people to actually think this is a good payout..
YOU ARE BEING BAMBOOZLED!

Ill take ars's payout structure, shaw, python, etc.. etc.. I think you are about 8-12 months ahead of schedule on this type of program

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Nice tours, we'll be curiously watching to see how it all works out. Have Tony catch me and we'll give it a shot.
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ok maybe giveing out cell # to GFY wasnt a good idea!! but hey!!!
Got 2 more webmasters signed up over the phone!!!
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ok maybe giveing out cell # to GFY wasnt a good idea!! but hey!!!
Got 2 more webmasters signed up over the phone!!!

Just wait a few more hours when everyones drunk..

Phone will be ringing all night
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Phone will be ringing all night
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$10 per month, no trial vs. cheap trial and expensive rebill?

There is only one way to tell which works better, and that's TRY THEM BOTH.

Any old program

vs.

http://www.10dollarcash.com

vs.

http://www.discountpassbucks.com
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i'm confused and also too lazy too read the whole thread. yesterday plat d was gfy enemy no.1, now he's topping the charts with a pinned spot. i'm obviously missing something.
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And yes I agree with Lens Try em both!!!

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wouldnt a $10 signup that convert 4x better than a $40 signup, still be the same amount of money?
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Old 09-25-2003, 10:15 PM   #140
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I'll pay $45 per signup to anybody who leaves either of these programs with disgust because they convert about the same as a at 2.99 3 day trial... in fact i'll pay a no bullshit $50 per 2.99 trial to anybody who has good volume! :D

Bottom line is that what I've heard is this... these sites convert far worse than trials but make the program owners more money. Sure they've paid their good friends to post... sure their *best* converters will come on and post how wonderful their conversions are...but can you really trust those posts?

Be smart. Stick with what you know.

Whether it's pb, adult, quickbuck, trafficcash, silvercash or topbucks... send your traffic to cheap trials and you'l make more money

Hooper, thanks for leaving me out!

I have doubts that the $10 sites convert better, serious doubts. Started a thread this am, nobody posted any real #'s. I know it is still early, but would love to see some real #'s posted. It is "works" I would send traffic, but not until I see some data.
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Old 09-25-2003, 10:20 PM   #141
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So i was thinking about things earlier *

*note: siccash converts like a motherfucker too and they are on the ball when it comes to billing. in fact they are one of our best converting sponsors. (cough, brad, that'll be 20 bucks by paypay now please) ;-)
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Old 09-25-2003, 10:33 PM   #142
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cool sites, I'll throw them some traffic and see how they convert
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Old 09-25-2003, 10:41 PM   #143
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cool sites, I'll throw them some traffic and see how they convert
Hit me up man!!!
I will get you squared away
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Old 09-26-2003, 12:01 AM   #144
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Old 09-26-2003, 12:02 AM   #145
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Umm
20 signups per day
wow
that's alot
how many galleries per day do i have to submit to get that?

p.s. hi platinumdave, hooper, wiseman, wg & all!
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Old 09-26-2003, 12:16 AM   #146
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Actually
while i'm here
Quickbuck & platinumbucks are some of the BEST sponsors there are.

Trustworthy, payments on time like clockwork, and when i get those bigass 3 digit cheques, my bank tellers go wild.

They get my triple chernobyl thumbs up

and at $45-50 a join on 2.99 trials
and 25 a join on $10/month
u can't go wrong

take it from a seasoned pro
i've been able to afford many fine JC penney and Walmart shopping sprees on their dime
god bless
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Old 09-26-2003, 12:26 AM   #147
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So let me get this straight...

Dave gets hammered for stealing the idea...

Money gets paid...

Thread gets pinned....

ppl that were calling him a thief are now calling him a genius...

Then someone sees questions that can only be answered with long-term side-by-side testing.

Idea is cut to shreds...

Hooper takes off with the webmasters signups....

Dave... u must be pissing yourself laughing.... this much piss is always good for everyone's business.

How bout letting the pin go sometime tho....

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Old 09-26-2003, 12:31 AM   #148
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I like the PIN!!!!!
Dont forget $50 PAYOUTS ON $2.99 TRIALS HERE!!!!
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Old 09-26-2003, 12:38 AM   #149
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Or.... Did I miss something?

Bhutos was just telling me there was a thread about a site being
sold without all the owners consent....

Is Amp and Lens now partners with Dave?

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Old 09-26-2003, 12:51 AM   #150
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lol... man, you guys got some wild fricken imaginations....


a few more days and the stories will have evolved to include me fucking farm animals, dave getting a sex change, and Hoop in bed with Schwarzenegger.
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