hahah....keep that on the DL...fuckin J$ had to call you!

There's some pics on FUBAR but none of me in action (I'm a little more discreet than that bro!)

Does python do the back end processing for http://orgasmcash.com/ ?

Orgasm is one of the bigger "lack of disclosure" scam going.

I have been around for a long time. I have kept up with most aspects of this business. Including credit card games. I could spend the next three months documenting all the things Python has done that is negative to the business.

I am really surprised you did not call me a player hater....

I have no idea how you do business huh? Yeah.... how many times have you moved companies, how many corp shells do you have? How many companies in Cyprus do you guys have now?

I do not know why I even waste my time making these posts.... I doubt I will change most webmasters minds, but when I see Aly going on about crooks and problems in the industry.... well lets just say I was inspired.

Python along with Babenet, and CE are 3 of the top Cockholsters in the industry - and the reason why this industry is heading down the tubes, especially with Visa/Mastercard.

I wonder if anyone has put together the face that all 3 of these companies are the ones that made deals with a cacia? Sure I know, it was done to protect past earning and such, and that makes sense.... but I wish I could have been a fly on the wall with all those meetings....

Of course, what do I know? Nothing.... never had, never will... I am just a player hater who is jealous of all the players!!



:1orglaugh

See, Mike, this is exactly what I'm talking about. With all due respect, Python's not the enemy here. It's just a really big target for those who are looking in the wrong direction.

You're absolutely right... People do need to wake the fuck up.

Python has picked up where babe-net left off!!

Python IS the enemy of this industry!!

KB is a side-show ( no disrespect KB, I love those Izod shirts!)


ElvisManso, Aly Are you familiar with the corporate entities Demurrel Enterprises and Pink Sands - what about the backend run by those Python 'subsidiaries' for what seemed like hundreds of 'free AVS' systems where sign up pages were so confusing with multiple very expensive cross sells in fine print, confusing the surfer on purpose, dumping him into members areas that had no connection to the name of the site he originally signed up for - cancellation process a complete mystery, surfer would go back to the original site and be told they have nothing to do with the cancellation process -

This is just what is going on recently....

I doubt you know much of anything, sine you are mere employees.... So just pretend like I am a know-nothing who is jealous of other success.

I know I will not change any minds, I am just player hating - so ignore me.... this will be my last post on the subject. ( Until I get moved again....) I have work to do...

i have to agree with you on python and babenet.I was laughing to myself when aly made that comment about crooks

Awww Darren looks so cute here:

http://www.bringitbitch.com/pornhaha...s/DSC00031.JPG

:winkwink:

Good grief.

well, this thread has turned interesting...

Oh man... I really was trying to leave this thread alone, but I HAVE to chime in because the above statements are not only inflammatory, but also utterly ignorant.

The companies you mention are merchant account companies which we use for processing. I can't say who else uses them, but the only AVS's we run are XXXPassport and XXXGayPass. Those AVS's are VERY clear to surfers and don't aim to trick anybody.

Do you REALLY think that a company like Python would choose to deal in practices that ultimately put us out of business?! AGAIN... Wake the hell up! We are NOT Babenet! If we WERE Babenet, we would not be in business anymore! YES, we took on some of Babenet's affiliates when they went down, but most of them left becuase our rules/scrubbing/fraud protection were too strong for them.

I wouldn't waste my time defending a company that was indefensible. I prefer to use my energies in a positive way, so it really pisses me off (yes, I'm finally pissed off) to have to sit here and defend Python against someone who should be smart enough and experienced enough to know better!

Everything you allude to and everything you CLAIM to know is bullshit and, AGAIN, focuses animosity in the wrong place.

How about you stay in the business of stirring up controversy, Mike, and I'll stay in the business of making webmasters money.

Perhaps you honestly and truly believe your own hype. Go ahead. I doubt that you give a shit, but you just lost my respect. Not because you attacked Python, but because you proved yourself to be an ignorant jackass.

Now... back to work. Apparently I have a bunch of surfers to go rip off.

I always knew I liked you :P

Thanks, Sweetheart!!

:winkwink:

Whitney you're making me jealous.

KB is cool.

I have never met Brad. Seems like a hater. Bitter man.

Great post Aly!

I totally agree with you, as long as people make money there will always be people to hate. Nothing you can do, no one will ever be right, everyone knows something more then you do, it's kind of sad really.

All I can say is people who matter know what's true and what is not. After that who really cares

OK, here's my :2 cents: :2 cents:

Some people start their own businesses, some work for others. KB has the best people skills in this industry, hands down. Including everyone I know, including myself. And I got skills. Had to add that in there.

Anyway, starting your own business isn't always the best way to go, you can lose money and lot's of time in the process. So doing subcontracted sales and marketing jobs works out well for people like KB and his clients. They get his insight, contacts, publicity and meetings set up to do bigger business. Most companies can't afford guys like KB as an employee full time, so using him month to month as a subcontracted marketing/sales and PR guy is a sweet deal.

So what's the life expectancy of a sales person? Or a subbed out sales/marketing guy? I can tell you it's not very long even for employed help. Turn and burn.

So to discredit KB for turning and burning isn't a fair argument, it's the nature of the beast.

I know some companies reading this might have employees in sales and marketing for over 6 months or so, it does happen here and there. But it's trial and error. Finding a guy who is hip to this industry, has channels in place to get your service seen and used is valuable. Even if a KB only does it for 6 months or so, it's still valuable to his clients.

I'm sure if you were to ask most of his former employers if he helped put them on the map, they'd say yes. What's that worth? How much do you spend on trade shows and advertising? KB gets exposure by creating it out of no where. That's talent. And mix that in with the people skills, that's very useful at trade shows. He can introduce you and your service to the right people, give you an opportunity explain how you can do business with his prospects. An opportunity that happens only because it came through KB, he does have that ability.

Most companies use this type of marketer until the well runs dry, they've hit up all of his resources and ideas, now they can save his fee per month and part ways with no hard feeling (in most cases). Some situations people leave on bad notes, but you'll never know who was right and who was wrong for sure. Again, that's another part of the beast.

So in a nutshell. KB will pursue his own business models as situations come up, like Pimpandho. Some will work, some won't, so take a few clients on your path and make money.

If utilized to his fullest, KB can take an online franchise and carry it on his back, with the help of a team around him. He's good, but he can't do everything, that's why he handles the areas he handles.

So KB, if you get clients from this thread, you need to pay me and Brad a commission. I can say I know KB better then he knows himself. He has confidence in his game, but still doesn't realize how good he can be, and how good he is. Most successful people on the Internet don't have a fraction of KB's people skills.

Put KB in a room with 10 different types of people, as a test. See how he gets them to like him and buddy up with him. Then take your average or above average webmaster, put them in the same room. KB will win 9 out of 10 votes every time. And the one who didn't vote is player hater. Being a Player means you have game and can handle yourself well with people. It's not about money, it's about game.

OK, I'm done.

And Brad, I like you, you like me, but honestly, if KB and you were in a room filled with webmasters, he'd win the audience over hands down. You'd do better on a chat board, but he'd eat you up in person. He's funnier and quicker on his feet. That's skill, just like how you make money is also a skill.

KB will make money, it's something you can always make. But having game isn't something you can buy, it's something you have.

Nicely put, D$.
We all have our strengths, and KBizzle definitely knows how to work a crowd! I remember sitting on a panel with him when he was selling snake oil, or something similar, and he had the crowd in the palm of his hand! :winkwink:

I get off on talk like this.:Graucho

Wow I feel the love-

36 emails asking for my services today :-))

I love you D$- Your post was not only 100% correct - I love the way you think.

Probably because I am your brother you DO know me more than anyone else here-

Aly, Ike, and all the other supporters thank you very much for the kind words-

The funniest part about all of this is that I left triplexcash two weeks ago-

I kept it quiet - only because I wasn't able to release my new thing yet-

Now why would you spoil a great post I just made and reveal I'm your brother? Now my post looks biased!

100 Sandbox UFC fights

We at http://www.sex.com have worked with http://www.python.com since I got the domain back. They pay always on time if not prepay.


Gary Kremen

P.S. Leave KB alone, this is like torturing a cat. It is very, very sick and wrong.

...Congratulations on your 100th post, Gary! :glugglug

Hi Gary!!! :) :thumbsup

Ok could not stay away from this one!

Gary don't you have some meth to do?

If you would have read my post, it was directed to what Python did to SURFERS not to webmasters. Obviously they pay their webmasters on time, hence why they get some pandering and kissing ass on the boards!

Webmasters who see the big picture understand what is really going on.... But most keep their mouth's shut and do not rock the boat. Something I never was to good at doing.

Python is doing crummy things that reflect back on the whole indsutry. They are part of the Cockholster Cabal that is killing the golden goose.

This thread should be broken up into two. I can't tell whether KB or Python is being bashed!

Mike, your bullshit is irrelevant. Infact, with that pathetic jab at Gary you prove my point even further.

Whatever... Don't waste my time. Good luck with everything else.

It's a Double-Bill! :1orglaugh

I hear the sound of bridges burning.

Aly, you are a mere mouthpeice...

I know you have a job to do, and you do a very good job of it.

My problem is with your bosses... No need to debate employees.

:)

There's nothing like a good old fashioned piss up...Yeehaw!

Newb question: How can I get a hold of Jimmy3way if I can't:
1. Pm him ("Your administrator has disabled private messaging.")
2. Email him ("Sorry! That user has specified that they do not wish to receive emails through this board. "
3. ICQ him (no ICQ listed)

Do I really have to make a new post and hope he sees it?

meep meep


that fuckin' banner!

i love the bizzles

good people

:2 cents:

Thank you for your thinly cloaked condescension.

I'm more than happy to end this. There is no debate.

Good luck with everything.

Aly, your response is weak and comes across as very uneducated and left out of the loop. I highly doubt you have any idea what goes on behind the scenes. I know many of my employees have no idea of the actual inner workings of the company and our billing models.


Python also has a stake in another avs, xpass.com which was "bought" from me. I am still eagerly awaiting my $100,000 check.

Use the porno phone tree.

Everybody in porn is separated by 5 ICQ contacts. Just ICQ someone at random, ask them if they know me, and pass it on. Eventually you will get to me.

Or you can hit me up directly: 121058710

if i'd have a product to promote
I'd hire KB

D$, you have never heard me claim I am any good at marketing. I am a businessman. Greg does the marketing, not me. In fact, I am shitty at marketing, and not much of a people person. Your brother owes you dinner after that post! No doubt, he COULD be good at what he does, but his potential is unfulfilled for some reason.

I have an idea Brad- why don't you post "Python fucked me for $100,000 be careful you may be next"

It worked so well with me didn't it?
Also Mike- Now I am a SIDESHOW?

Funny I am considered a sideshow but when you and Bradley both were looking for email lists I was one of the first people you both solicited.

It's funny because I remember the days when both you and Brad were saying how this person or that company was ruining the industry by spamming- then you two became the "poster children" for spam somehow?

What's the next thing both of you will be hypocritical about????