I like your sig :)
WG

Well considering they are in toranto it is possible they are all out getting drunk by now

Ever think it is midnight in toronto? Maybe they have lives away from the net?

I should be out at a club somewhere...
WG

your designs on the discount stuff look way superior to platinum bucks's

these "surfer quotes" on each one are pretty horrible though

Blasphemy!!! :eek7

I'll just send Jen over. ha ha

No shit I should be out hunting for my next girlfriend.

It will probably be Shana from North Carolina :winkwink:

pretty obvious they xeroxed the program and the design layout - BUT Truth Hurts is right and AMP admitted it himself, not much original in his layout, it's a very popular one right now, there are hundreds out there.

Lensman should be pissed more than AMP but the big boys are realistic, they expect to be copied, you never hear a word publically from the Bangbros that they invented fake reality video paysites and the layout both AMP and the PlatinumBucks designer was first used by the the OxCash crew. There were long scroller tours before but some anonymous designer at OxCash came up with had enough unique elements that it deserves to be considered an innovation.

AMP's discount site design work is MUCH better than the PlatinumBucks ones.

lol Hooper!

I think I could actually get an exact date if you like:-)
I'm sure it was BEFORE internext!

oops! did I say something I shoudln't have?

Send her over anytime :Graucho

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No shit I should be out hunting for my next girlfriend. It will probably be Shana from North Carolina :winkwink:

You ever keep in touch with her after Arizona?
WG

and if our shit was plastered on the booth at Internext in full living print color, how far prior to that do you suppose we were actually concepting the whole thing? An hour? A day? Maybe a week you'd give us?

Those that live by the boards, will die by the boards...

hmm. Just looked. First site was completed May 25.
last site finished was June 6.

Of course I can't speek for Hooper, but I'm pretty sure he is refering to the sites I am thinking of:-)


You raise a point on the coinsidence of a similar launch date and type of program. Does it really matter who thought of the idea first? If they did get the idea from you guys great, kudos to you! if they did not, there are 10 other companies out there where they could have gotten the idea from.


Competition is good.. It keeps people honest... for the most part at least!

everyone's a fucking innovator.... and naturally, everyone's got some sort of alibi to back it up.


well, I don't know many innovators. And I don't know many above average thinkers. They're few and fucking far between.

But I know one. And I know the Adult.com Think Tank busts some serious fucking ass to make shit happen. And it ain't done by snagging shit off a fucking 8' x 10' booth graphic.

Here is food for thought.

If you had a "revolutionary" idea, why put on all over at a show 6 weels before it is ready for prime time? So someone else can copy it? Not saying pbucks did, but others should have been quicker and beaten lens to the punch. Amp, I think you need to find out who made the great biz idea to promote an idea that was not ready yet.

:ugone2far

sometimes you demonstrate such vast unbridled cluelessness, even I am amazed that you have managed to successfully feed yourself for this long.

Amp, answer the question. Why promote it, before it is ready. Just begging to be ripped off. I am still upset my guys did not catch it at the show.

im agreeing with amp on this one

amp just pulled an Ari Fleischer on Brad Shaw's question :1orglaugh

Of course he did, because I would imagine that he did the booth graphics under the direction of Lens. Lesson learned. Even old school millionaires can learn lessons.

People steal my shit all the fucking time

Oh how i love j4f mailers that are copies of my work

fucking bastards :ak47:

Ari Fleischer retired didn't he? Big difference. I'm still active. :Graucho

Nice designs AMP, sucks they borrowed your concepts.

Will be interesting to hear what they have to say though tommorow.

i have also a patent on the 'internet'

all such things on the internert belong to me and i want my 2% of you profits

regards
internet owner

I think it's uncalled for, for you to try to turn this around on me. Stick to the issue at hand. This is not a witch hunt. The facts remain. There can be no denial.

Next.

Amp can ignore the legit question. No pissing, just point out the obvious. Good night.

:)

damn it - i wanted to meet you and missed the opportunity in new york

amazing lol

WuRD!

You should Pin this thread until you get a response.

Damn, I haven't seen PlatinumBuck's new $10 sites until now, and it's obvously no accident that they look very similar to Amp's designs he did for Adult.com. I knew they were looking to do a program like our new one, which I said was fine. After all, they had a look at it almost 2 months ago. But copying the sites too?

:D

I guess Lensman didn't know what the sites looked like... Sounds like something Lens and Dave should discuss over the phone and not so much over GFY.

WG

Other than the price, I don't see any rip off of the design.

We didn't design them , so I have no interest in the outcome of this.
I just don't see where the ripoff comments are coming from.

Damnit Sharky if we could only speak with out the Texas maufia comeing after us huh??

But in actuality I wonder how much traffic this new shit of PB's is getting from this as well now?

I hear ya wiseman!

You guys have had stuff brewing for a while.. lots of good shit. I look forward to it all!

:-)

good exposure for both I imagine!

My thoughts exactly. It looks, really, like somebody with some seriously weak Photoshop skills tried to copy the work of a much more talented guy.

This whole thing reminds me of an article that Brad posted over on Oprano:
http://www.msnbc.com/news/969329.asp?0ql=c7p
Innovation Is Overrated

Base point being - it doesn't matter one bit who came up with an idea. What matters is who makes the most of the idea - usually the folks that come later do better, because they can launch an improved product.

I also agree with the "why show it off before launch" theory - you don't show your hand until you're ready to rake over the chips.

I see nothing wrong with showing it off.. But copying the design is another story.

Otherwise what would the show be if nothing new was there to see?

You don't goto a auto show and not see new concept cars.

drama drama drama

btw, see sig :thumbsup

See next reply. :)

[Female: Hmm, I see, so you're rather violent?]
Sometimes
[Female: Ok, what would be the situation when you so-called "gank" somebody?]

Verse Two: Eazy-E

Wait... for some people to leave
I got another trick up my sleeve
Step with pep to the back of the house
Look then... all the lights are out
Grabbed the door and it's locked, so
easily made my way to the window
Lift it up slow, cause it takes timing
Looked around, and then I climbed in
Once inside, I start takin
Cause you know it's no time for shakin
Get what you gonna get, front and center
or get five years for breakin and enter
Move quickly, but no runnin
Shht, I think somebody's comin
Hear the front door key, and I flee
out the back door with a fist full of jewelry
Over the wall... don't fall
Wipe my sweat cause that was a close call
Gettin ganked by the E is a lesson
So... is there any more questions?

They have an Amp clone :Graucho

ripping something off of adult.com is retarded

my thoughts:

I believe more programs prepare $10 sites. Rebilling at $40 is not an easy option anymore. Lower prices will keep the overall cb % of a sponsor within the acceptable visa limits. That's the main purpose of it in my eyes. I might be wrong.

I don't think PB intentionally did anything to copy your designs. The new sites follow the same graphic style of their previous ones. Take a look at Milf Riders and College Fuck Tour for example. I do see some similarities mostly in the bottom part of the tours. My guess if it didn't happen 100% by accident, their designer had a look at one of your tours and got influenced without realizing it.

It doesn't need much thought that any copy attempt would got flamed at the same moment and PB people are smart not to do such thing.

That's my opinion, don't flame me now :-)

Soul_Rebel is right, this is the new trend now given by adult.com with lower membership cost for surfers and lower payouts for webmasters, more and more companies will adopt this. This is indeed a revolution or evolution, no matter how you call it, and a new step forward for porn sales.

These are the days of our lives, on GFY :glugglug

would i be out of line to suggest amps first post be posted by platinumdave with the entitlement '0wned!' ? =)

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