Fuck Bush - Call For War Against America

[har har]

proof he killed millions of people for his own ends!

From an Iraqi blog quoted by Tom Tomorrow

http://www.thismodernworld.com/

Listen to this little anecdote. One of my cousins works in a prominent engineering company in Baghdad - we'll call the company H. This company is well-known for designing and building bridges all over Iraq. My cousin, a structural engineer, is a bridge freak. He spends hours talking about pillars and trusses and steel structures to anyone who'll listen.

As May was drawing to a close, his manager told him that someone from the CPA wanted the company to estimate the building costs of replacing the New Diyala Bridge on the South East end of Baghdad. He got his team together, they went out and assessed the damage, decided it wasn't too extensive, but it would be costly. They did the necessary tests and analyses (mumblings about soil composition and water depth, expansion joints and girders) and came up with a number they tentatively put forward - $300,000. This included new plans and designs, raw materials (quite cheap in Iraq), labor, contractors, travel expenses, etc.

Let's pretend my cousin is a dolt. Let's pretend he hasn't been working with bridges for over 17 years. Let's pretend he didn't work on replacing at least 20 of the 133 bridges damaged during the first Gulf War. Let's pretend he's wrong and the cost of rebuilding this bridge is four times the number they estimated - let's pretend it will actually cost $1,200,000. Let's just use our imagination.

A week later, the New Diyala Bridge contract was given to an American company. This particular company estimated the cost of rebuilding the bridge would be around- brace yourselves- $50,000,000!

[har har]

america did this to germany after world war 1(which started ww2), they wanted germany to pay billions(yes billions) every year from 1919 through too 1988, thats bullshit someone has to regulate america, cant wait for russia and red china to rise again

[Paul Markham]

And even with all the help from the Iraqi rebuilding Bush has managed to screw the US economy.

The interesting thing to find out will be are the majority of Americands better off, worse or no differnet than five years ago and then compare that with the richest 5%

[Mr.Fiction]

Most of the money that taxpayers are paying to Iraq is probably going to companies Bush and Cheney have financial interest in.

They've only got one year left, they're raping taxpayers as fast as they can.

[TurboTrucker]

Information that somebody's cousin said on a website - I'm sold.

[goBigtime]

Originally posted by har har
.....A week later, the New Diyala Bridge contract was given to an American company. This particular company estimated the cost of rebuilding the bridge would be around- brace yourselves- $50,000,000!

Look, if it's not on Fox News, MSNBC or CNN it's PROPAGANDA ok?





But really... on one hand that's shocking, on the other, it's sort of predictable.

[DarkJedi]

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
Most of the money that taxpayers are paying to Iraq is probably going to companies Bush and Cheney have financial interest in.

That is the correct answer.

[RedBumper]

"From an Iraqi blog quoted by Tom Tomorrow"

Need i say more? I'm sure i can find links on the internet stating Elvis is still alive and wel and living in Miami but that doens't mean i'm gonna post it outhere and claim it's the fucking thruth.

[goBigtime]

It looks like this may be the original source:

http://riverbendblog.blogspot.com/20...201838 841818

More of the authors opinions on the matter are there as well.

[Joe Average]

Originally posted by RedBumper
"From an Iraqi blog quoted by Tom Tomorrow"

Need i say more? I'm sure i can find links on the internet stating Elvis is still alive and wel and living in Miami but that doens't mean i'm gonna post it outhere and claim it's the fucking thruth.

And yet I'm sure you believed all the anecdotal claims of the abduction and murder of dissidents by Saddam Hussein's regime.

[pudcat]

Originally posted by RedBumper
"From an Iraqi blog quoted by Tom Tomorrow"

Need i say more? I'm sure i can find links on the internet stating Elvis is still alive and wel and living in Miami but that doens't mean i'm gonna post it outhere and claim it's the fucking thruth.

if you don't think it's the truth, then what price difference do you think there was? ?

[pudcat]

Originally posted by Joe Average
And yet I'm sure you believed all the anecdotal claims of the abduction and murder of dissidents by Saddam Hussein's regime.

[har har]

http://www.coxar.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/

[RedBumper]

Originally posted by pudcat

if you don't think it's the truth, then what price difference do you think there was? ?

Atleast 1 dollar....
No really, i'm just not into the "anti-american" hype, although i'm not american myself. I do believe that every governement has it's dirty laundry, Iraq does and the US does.
Right now it's just to hared to see thruw the forest to see the trees because alot of stories are being thrown into the world about the Iraq war.
I know one thing though - Sadam isn't mens best friend, never has been and never will be. Bush himself isn't mens best friend, never has been and never will be but i just don't buy all the crap they put out about the war.
Fact is that Sadam is gone - and IMHO he needed to be gone.

[RedBumper]

Originally posted by Joe Average


And yet I'm sure you believed all the anecdotal claims of the abduction and murder of dissidents by Saddam Hussein's regime.

I do believe he murdered his own people if they didn't think alike. I do believe he used biological weapons on the kurds.
I do believe Bush has some financial interests in the war.
I do believe Sadam needed to be teached a lesson - and he got it.

[ADL Colin]

Originally posted by har har
america did this to germany after world war 1(which started ww2), they wanted germany to pay billions(yes billions) every year from 1919 through too 1988, thats bullshit someone has to regulate america, cant wait for russia and red china to rise again

Har har,

The US didn't even ratify the Treaty of Versailles. Woodrow Wilson wanted a treaty that went much lighter on Germany than Britain, France, and Italy wanted. The US Senate rejected the Treaty of Versailles because of the League of Nations issue. It was France, more than anyone else, that wanted Germany to pay heavy restitution.

For that matter, when Germany was having difficulty paying the restitution, France occupied the Ruhr Valley. The US responded by loaning Germany money under the Dawes plan to help them pay the other allies. See - US loans them money, France occupies their territory. Hitler was never all that keen about America getting in the war. He was furious when Japan attacked the US.

Later, the US reduced the terms of the loan making it even easier for Germany.

[12clicks]

Colin, don't confuse them with facts.
They're on a roll.


Also, could someone who doesn't like what we're doing PLEASE declare war on us so we can get all this unpleasantness over sooner?
please?

[Furious_Female]

Some cousin of a pissed off bridge designer? Who cares... contractors in the US and abroad are under and out bid everyday. Point = ?

[conan]

most people will go straight to hell after they die

[who]

U.S.A. ..

Why does every other country hate or fear the Greatest Democracy on Earth?

[who]

And, people should realise that Iraq needed a leader like Saddam because those people are all fucked up muslim sand monkeys.

There's no way that the USA can turn Iraq into a peaceful or even sane country... unless they kill ALL Iraqis.

[ADL Colin]

Originally posted by .?.
U.S.A. ..

Why does every other country hate or fear the Greatest Democracy on Earth?

Why does everyone hate the New York Yankees?

[who]

Originally posted by Colin


Why does everyone hate the New York Yankees?

I fail to see the comparison.

[kicks]

I made a long reply and deleted it.
Short and sweet, if your cousin does not like the work being done, please advise him to gather all his friends and ask us nicely to leave.

I sure as hell wish we had never gone there. I see the Iraqi peoples thanks every night on the news telling about more of our people being killed.

If the Iraqi people really wanted to be free they would not be allowing that shit to go on.

Oh wait I maybe we are to thank the Iraqis for the chance to free them and watch our people be killed!

[donnie]

Originally posted by 12clicks
Colin, don't confuse them with facts.
They're on a roll.


Also, could someone who doesn't like what we're doing PLEASE declare war on us so we can get all this unpleasantness over sooner?
please?

You are at war you stupid motherfucker! Why don't you go to Iraq if you are so tough?

[com]

Originally posted by kicks
I made a long reply and deleted it.
Short and sweet, if your cousin does not like the work being done, please advise him to gather all his friends and ask us nicely to leave.

I sure as hell wish we had never gone there. I see the Iraqi peoples thanks every night on the news telling about more of our people being killed.

If the Iraqi people really wanted to be free they would not be allowing that shit to go on.

Oh wait I maybe we are to thank the Iraqis for the chance to free them and watch our people be killed!

short and sweet... amen.

[com]

Originally posted by donnie


You are at war you stupid motherfucker! Why don't you go to Iraq if you are so tough?

Id like to see the entire populace of the mid-east take up arms against the blow runners of crenshaw blvd... just a taste of what an urban fight would be like on our turf.

[donnie]

Originally posted by kicks
I made a long reply and deleted it.
Short and sweet, if your cousin does not like the work being done, please advise him to gather all his friends and ask us nicely to leave.

I sure as hell wish we had never gone there. I see the Iraqi peoples thanks every night on the news telling about more of our people being killed.

If the Iraqi people really wanted to be free they would not be allowing that shit to go on.

Oh wait I maybe we are to thank the Iraqis for the chance to free them and watch our people be killed!

Who the fuck asked you to go there in the first place?? You killed 500 000 children over there and you expect them to be grateful???

[com]

Originally posted by donnie


Who the fuck asked you to go there in the first place?? You killed 500 000 children over there and you expect them to be grateful???

Where did that stat come from? uranus?

[Sly_RJ]

I'm already building a stockpile of weapons. Preparing for the next Revolution. I just bought a bunker in Montana and another in Arizona. The Montana refuge is where we store our weapons, train our men, and prepare for battle. Our Arizona bunker is already highly active. The border patrol sneaks cash and drugs under the table to "take care" of the illegal aliens.

Who wants in?

[ADL Colin]

Originally posted by .?.
I fail to see the comparison.

What we're ultimately discussing is the social psychology of competition.

People make simple and quick judgements about the world.. Once you?ve defined ?us? and ?them? everything is usually interpreted with that in mind. Americans are as quick to make such judgements as anyone else. Over the years, we?ve labeled the Nazis, the Communists, the Russians, the Chinese, the North Koreans, and the Iraqis as our enemies. Each new event was then interpreted as ?look what those communists are doing now. How evil.?

All this should be obvious to someone looking at the hatred held by the average American but can you look at yourself? I doubt it.

Don?t you find it amusing that many members of western nations speak negatively of the conservativeness of America while many Arabs speak of its licentiousness? You should. Can it really be both? Of course not. What?s going on here? How can someone who chants the mantra of cultural relativism claim that someone else?s culture is inferior? Hypocrisy Now. I?m not signing up for your little club.

Why do some Europeans get upset about the effect of US steel tariffs on so-called free markets but not be concerned about the effect on free markets of their heavy agricultural subsidies?

Why did anti-Americanism begin to rise so quickly after the fall of the Soviet Union? Why were so many papers appearing in the 1990s pointing out the rising anti-Americanism in the world? the psychology of competition right there.

The Yankees are THEM .. And so are these other Yankees. Welcome to the Cult of Otherness. You?re standing in a long line.

[Sly_RJ]

Originally posted by donnie


Who the fuck asked you to go there in the first place?? You killed 500 000 children over there and you expect them to be grateful???

We killed 500,000 children? Damn. The cost of preventive measures. They were already plotting out there flee to Mexico, which they would then sneak into the States through the Arizona border where they would meet my boys.

Hmm... maybe you're right, we shouldn't have killed them!

[theking]

Originally posted by donnie


Who the fuck asked you to go there in the first place?? You killed 500 000 children over there and you expect them to be grateful???

What leads you to believe that the US killed 500,000 children?

[com]

Originally posted by Sly_RJ
I'm already building a stockpile of weapons. Preparing for the next Revolution. I just bought a bunker in Montana and another in Arizona. The Montana refuge is where we store our weapons, train our men, and prepare for battle. Our Arizona bunker is already highly active. The border patrol sneaks cash and drugs under the table to "take care" of the illegal aliens.

Who wants in?

Guess I aughtta dust off the ol' AK47

[com]

Could someone less lazy then I post stats from WWII, how many soldiers were killed there as aposed to how many children we killed here? Id think its pretty close by that measure. You mention politics and all the fucktards come out of the woodwork.

[donnie]

Originally posted by com


Where did that stat come from? uranus?

FN

Between 1991 and 2002, 500 000 children died as the direct result of sanctions imposed on Iraq by the FN.

[ADL Colin]

Originally posted by donnie
you expect them to be grateful???

Not me. The world works the opposite way usually. For example, what to me should have been most predictable response of the US saving Kuwait back in 1991 was that soon enough the Kuwaitis would forget all that and begin to resent the United States. That is exactly what happened and you can see that in the opinion polls.

Countries can fight side by side in the most horrendous of wars and be bitter enemies just a few years later.

If you were broke, poor, down on your luck and someone began to help you sooner or later you would begin to resent them.
Gratefulness is submission and humiliating.

[Sly_RJ]

Originally posted by donnie


FN

Between 1991 and 2002, 500 000 children died as the direct result of sanctions imposed on Iraq by the FN.

Call me stupid, but what's the FN? I'm assuming you mean the UN.

Don't just read stats homie. Read the WHOLE package. If you think those deaths are directly because of illegitimate sanctions, you must have lost your ability to comprehend English. Go read the UN site again.

[com]

Originally posted by donnie


FN

Between 1991 and 2002, 500 000 children died as the direct result of sanctions imposed on Iraq by the FN.

If you beleive that I have a wonderful soup bowl to sell you.

[Cassie]

not sure what wwII stats were but i have the korean war stats in front of me:

54246 died
103284 wounded
8177 mia

i am guessing the amount that died in wwII was double if not triple the amt. if i remember correctly, some where in the high hundred thousands died in wwII (i'm only listing american numbers here).

i could care less about any of those people in the middle east. let them blow each other up and do us all a favor. what i do care about is the state of this economy and i pray to whatever power is out there that bush is not reelected. i love my country but the minute he stepped into office, he single handedly hurt relations with russia and then proceeded to ruin our economy. but then again, the apple doesnt fall too far from the tree. just look to his father to see what will be the end result.

[theking]

Originally posted by donnie


FN

Between 1991 and 2002, 500 000 children died as the direct result of sanctions imposed on Iraq by the FN.

UN sanctions...not US sanctions...so your statement that the US killed 500,000 children comes from your ignorance of the facts.

[Sly_RJ]

Originally posted by theking


UN sanctions...not US sanctions...so your statement that the US killed 500,000 children comes from your ignorance of the facts.

By blaming the US for UN actions, I think that's an admission that the US is a VERY strong piece of the UN, if not the most important piece. Don't you think?

[donnie]

Originally posted by Sly_RJ

Call me stupid, but what's the FN? I'm assuming you mean the UN.

Don't just read stats homie. Read the WHOLE package. If you think those deaths are directly because of illegitimate sanctions, you must have lost your ability to comprehend English. Go read the UN site again.

Sorry, I meen UN. It is UN in english but FN in all other languages I speak.

Legitimate or not, they are dead. Do you really belive that parents of those children cares about Sadam or Bush or UN (FN) or USA or anybody else? They want revange (And they are geting it)

[com]

Originally posted by Sly_RJ

By blaming the US for UN actions, I think that's an admission that the US is a VERY strong piece of the UN, if not the most important piece. Don't you think?

You mean NATO -aka- US? ;)

[Sly_RJ]

Originally posted by donnie


Legitimate or not, they are dead. Do you really belive that parents of those children cares about Sadam or Bush or UN (FN) or USA or anybody else? They want revange (And they are geting it)

LOL. That was weak. You need a much, much better argument. We could say the SAME exact thing.

[com]

Well Id like to congradulate our soldiers... If they can pick off 500,000 kids in that land fill and somehow manage to disguise it this long as disease, malnutrition and suicide bombings all together we're doing something right. Fuck them all.

[com]

Originally posted by donnie


Sorry, I meen UN. It is UN in english but FN in all other languages I speak.

Legitimate or not, they are dead. Do you really belive that parents of those children cares about Sadam or Bush or UN (FN) or USA or anybody else? They want revange (And they are geting it)

Ill give you revenge... how about a muzzle blowjob?

[donnie]

Originally posted by Sly_RJ

By blaming the US for UN actions, I think that's an admission that the US is a VERY strong piece of the UN, if not the most important piece. Don't you think?

USA IS very strong piece of the UN. But Un is terorist organisation

[adultwebware]

Originally posted by har har
proof he killed millions of people for his own ends!

From an Iraqi blog quoted by Tom Tomorrow

http://www.thismodernworld.com/

A week later, the New Diyala Bridge contract was given to an American company. This particular company estimated the cost of rebuilding the bridge would be around- brace yourselves- $50,000,000!

Well, there's no wonder in it.

US just figured out how much profitable this is, knowing their previeous operations, plus the Chechnya issue in R.F.

Bush seems to have a real military unfeedable appetites.

[Sly_RJ]

Originally posted by donnie



USA IS very strong piece of the UN. But Un is terorist organisation

I'm not a big fan of the UN either. But terrorist organization? Interesting philosophy. Hmm... I'm sure the various countries and people that have been helped by the UN would disagree. But hey, to each his own...