Bullshit. I have had NOTHING. At one point, I sold anything I had of value, including my CDs for $20 bucks. It's not EASY starting from nothing, but unlike other poverty stricken countries, the opportunity is greater in the US. I was broke, faced sleeping in my car, if I didn't live with my grandmother for a few months, I would have had to.

Bush's economy? My family lost it's business during Clinton's economy when the economy was supposedly so good. I saw the decline start in the early 90s and the internet boom is the only thing that temporarily perked anything up.

Any person who is not disabled, can go get a minimum wage job, get a crappy apartment and make themselves not homeless. Poverty in the US might not be appealing, but it is nothing like poverty in other countries, where they live in slums and have no sanitation. At poverty level in the US, you can still have food and water everyday, electricity, heat, TV, radio and so many other things, that don't even exist in 3rd world countries, on top of ways to better your situation. No one "chooses" to be homeless, but they do choose to remain that way.

That's ridiculous. Michigan Militia members would never work with a muslim terrorist organization.

you realy are an idiot, it gets cold outside, you wouldnt survive, pull your head out of your ass, your not going to have an easy american life for much longer, everyones awake now and their all angry, so get used to being cold if your going to survive.

it seems that he majority of americans have lost touch with reality on how the rest of us live.

i hope you get fucked over, i hope you becaome a homeless alcoholic and die in the gutter you scummy fuck

As if you'd know.

What about John Doe #2?

Never been found...is still out there...you check out the picture...doesn't look like your average white guy.

And even alot of the profitable jobs now will be replaced by technology.

atleast you had a car to sleep in, you take that for granted, most people dont even have that, your rich spoiled ho by comparison, dont bitch



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You are to ignorant of facts to have intercourse with...you are dismissed.

Even if they were somehow involved, I don't think they were at all fighting towards the same goal. I would think it would be strictly business, not some sort of jihad-fest.

shaddup little boy before you get a smack:321GFY

Never claimed otherwise.

My post was in response to Nap's about it being an American who did the OKC bombing.

I think certain fringe elements might work together to see a common goal realized much like criminal organizations have in the past.
Even if that common goal is just to kill, it has nothing to do with their ultimate goals.

I'm not bitching. I am not angry about my past financial problems. I learned a lot from it and chose not to stay in that rut. I am spoiled but I am also grateful. I am not complaining... if I were to become poor again, I would still fight my way out of it, no matter what I had to do. My will to succeed is greater than my acceptance of failure.

you succeed because of the circumstances you where born into, anywhere else you would die, so dont put others down

There are those that will argue that as POWs, they should be treated according to the Geneva Convention on Prisoners of War.

(New York, January 11, 2002) -- Human Rights Watch questioned Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld´s statement today that captured fighters from Afghanistan shipped to Cuba were ?unlawful combatants? not entitled to protection under the Geneva Conventions. Human Rights Watch also criticized the reported use of chain-link cages to confine the detainees.

and you know ALL of the above because you get daily briefings from the FBI & CIA, right?

You need to RE-READ history! Because using Japan as an example of what we can do in Iraq is totally in left field.

Japan was/is a "western civilization", with an industrial infrastructure, educated, and with a good source of natural resources to call upon to rebuild.

Iraq is NONE of these things. For us to think that in 5 years, Iraq will have a democracy just like Japan or the United States is ludicrous!

We do this by invading countries like Iraq and killing the shit out of them! Yep..that definitely "sets the record straight" and shows what America stands for!

If you belive Iraq does that, then you believe in the most tryanical and cold hearted of countries possible!

"The Iraqi Monologues!":1orglaugh

Damn man! I'm impressed!:thumbsup

If they are, there are about then there are four of them praying in the wrong direction LOL

I know all of this because my IQ level is high enough to comprehend what I see...what I hear...and what I read...where as your comprehension level is that of a six year old.

They're busy watching Fox, figuring out which country to invade next.

What is "ludicrous" is you saying that Japan was a "western civilization". FYI Japan has virtually zero resources...and does not even have the land resource to feed itself. Your are just plumb dumb...but apparently do not feel embarassed by your dumbness. I feel somewhat embarassed for you...and guilty at the same time. I really should not be as harsh as I am with the "mentally challenged".

Yay for idiots! :)

Anyways...

The idiots arguing who "won" the war w/ the axis powers in WWII need to STFU and fucking realize it was mutual.

Russia would not have won w/o the US supplies (this is a fact, and not arguable by sane people), and the split-front of the allied western front (this point is of course arguable). By all accounts, Russia would have fallen before the western front picked up had the US not been pumping resources upon resources into their country. Same goes for Britain, very good chance she would have fallen as well w/o the US supplies. The US was spending an insane amount of money far before Dec 7th.. And war material production was of course at very high levels.

That said..

We may (who really knows) all be speaking german or japanese right now if Russia didn't make the very painful sacrifices it did in just pure casualties and manpower. I have a lot of respect for russia because of that fact, and just find it rather sad what happened immediately after the war. Same goes to Britain, at a somewhat lesser extent. The average russian and british citizen made enormous sacrifices during the war, as did their armies.

So.. Without EACHOTHER, shit would have been a LOT DIFFERENT. I personally don't think the US would have fallen, just the whole uh.. oceans thing. But, that's a different discussion for a different day.

Just sick of seeing the same fucking arguments by both fanatical sides. "You all owe the US because we saved you!!!!", and "Fuck off US, you didn't do SHIT!! Russia did it all!". Screw you both, like I said it was mutually beneficial.

As for the topic at hand, who cares. The anti-US bashers will continue to make shit up and make mountains out of mole hills, and the folks that want to argue with them will argue right back. There is no end in site, and no one will convince the other side that they are "Wrong".

-Phil

ooooh!! You mean those "voices" are talking to you again eh? Told you to not stop taking your meds!

Aww. I'm all broken up about their rights.

I'm not the one that says we can make Iraq be just like Japan and Germany after world war II! 50 years ago! You live in a world where you THINK you are King and what you say actually happens! But that's only in your booze initiated dream sequences!

And if Japan is not considered "Western", what the fuck is it doing in the "great 8" economic powers then? Western doesn't mean geographical, it means WAY OF LIFE!

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Perfectly put, we have to let ignorant idiots be who don't know crap about the U.S., and choose to hate and talk out of their butt!:thumbsup

nicely put about WW2.

but anti-US people making things up? puhleaaze where are the WMD's dude? where are all the terrorist training camps? why is this costing more than you said?

they're pretty fucking simple questions.. btw for theking, bad intelligence is not an answer it's an excuse.

the once they find wmd then what is the next spin from the left.

A dangerous regime was taken out of power. Their inability to produce more weapons is the most important thing. Do you want to leave Saddam in power and let him develop nukes?

They addmited in 1995 they had anthrax, etc, but said they destroyed it. They arent the most honest people, so somehow I dont believe they did.

GFY ...
The educated of the world watched, witnessed and waited while we KNEW these things were and would occur.

You can not teach a population to hate for decades and NOT expect a problem. AND expect to be there for the same.

just because you think Bush et. al lied doesn't make you left, liberal or anything.

uh lack of WMD's isn't spin it's a fact so far.

who's to say what replaces him isn't going to be any more or less dangerous? at least he kept the fundamentalists at bay. Iraq could turn into another saudi arabia and actually become a direct terrorist threat rather than a maybe coulda shoulda if they passed wmd's they can't find on to bad guys threat.

or another Iran with an islamic revolution.

I actually thought they did have WMD's. I mean it's commonsense. But you know I'm thinking it's less and less likely. And even if they did have them instead of being in the contained hands of saddam - where are they now? in the hands of the lawless rabble or sold off to terrorists? the PRECISE PLACE WE WENT TO WAR TO STOP THEM FROM GOING????

Shut Ur mouth :boid :boid STUPID IDIOT

oh wow the war on terrorism is going swimmingly.. now Iran are parading missiles through Tehran with "We will crush America under our feet" on the side..

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...241/5ckad.html

I smoke cubans :smokin :glugglug

Not to me. That's like thinking only gold bars are real money and paper money isn't. Services are real.

What they don't tell you is that those pictures are from the 25th annual "We will crush America" parade.

you wish.

theking owns you guys on historical matters.

Hello, Japan is part of EASTERN society.

Japan has only very few natural resources and must import much of it's food and all of its oil (remember the role that oil played in WW II war in the Pacific).

Singapore is another state which virtually no natural resources but with one of the most developed markets in the world.

Are you kidding me? You think Iran's hate of the US is recent and a result of the "'war on terror"?

Wake up, man. Are you old enough to remember the American hostages. Do you know who Khomeini was?

What're you, like 18?

Mr. Muravchik explained current U.S. troubles as all part of a learning process. He noted that the U.S. had made foolish mistakes when it occupied Japan after World War II, including trying to replace Japanese traditional dances with American square dancing.

where did I say the hate of the US was new? I'll give you a clue. I didn't.. The war on terror is making them increasingly paranoid, they're upping the ante is all.

First, off. That picture was from an earlier parade to commemorate the war that ended in 1988. I'm guessing that picture is from 1998 then, the 10 ten year anniversary.

Here, I found this for you ...
"September 25, 1998 - A number of Iran?s missiles are publicly shown for the first time in a military parade commemorating the start of the Iran-Iraq war, including the Shehab-3. Some of the missiles had messages painted on their sides, including "Israel should be wiped off the map" and "the US can do nothing."

http://www.ceip.org/files/projects/n...letimeline.htm

I'm sorry but I don't see that Iran has upped the ante or that it is increasingly paranoid. They're just as paranoid as ever. They've been promising to destroy Israel for years, those missiles were designed years ago and American hatred has been appearing on the streets of Tehran for more than two decades.

I'd settle for a democracy like Turkey in 10 years. Then they'll be free to vote against our policies. ;-)

150 ballistic missiles

ok so from saying the 'US can do nothing'.. to 'we will crush america under our feet' is no change in feeling at all.....right :thumbsup

the majority of people in Iran have no ill-feeling to the US.. it's just these damn clerics who have a death grip on power there. It's my feeling that by scapegoating the country you're playing right into the hands of the clerics.

Clinton realised this and was working towards better relations with Iran, and the students were starting to get some leverage.. but now that is mostly undone