150 :glugglug

The right to kill a MAN's child? So, the thing growing inside the woman's body is by no means her own? Please explain, you now have my full attention.

I know this is difficult for you cam girl, but the crux of your original argument was that at seven weeks no embryo has a brain.

That's just not true.




Your talk of cow, pig, and fish makes me hungry though...


I wonder how embryo tastes.

It's not her own.

She couldn't make it on her own and it's not just about the stupid slut.

It's the child of both parties, but one gets all the decision making power at that point.

broke:

I don't want to press you in any way, but so I can grasp this, can you just answer my questions?

I'm trying to understand some things - getting there, but I'm slow.

Lets vote in the abortion poll!

You realize that often times both parties are in agreement on an abortion?

your mother definatelly needed abortion....

broke:

Ah.. I'm getting there, albeit slowly, - so women who have abortions are not just "sluts", they are "stupid sluts"?

Now I understand better. It's all in the words.

I know you are slow.

That's why you won't address any points and keep blathering about the answers to your pointless questions.



But alas... I will answer:


No.

Rape victims are exempt.

Apparently not.

Wouldn't be unintentionally preggers (by a man they didn't want as a father to their children) if they did.



Body tells you to do lots of things you shouldn't.

Hi Serge!

Yea, some must be a kind of aborted fetus that walks and, in it's own way "thinks".

Do you want to tell that to a man that wasn't?

Good for the bitch.

You do know it's pointless to argue against abortion to a board full of guys fucking anything they can. Of course they agree with abortion, they don't want to end up paying for a kid some slut they fucked has one day.

broke:

Ah.. I see. Now I'm *VERY* confused. You did say they are both "sluts" and "stupid sluts" in your previous posts:

Which is it?

Keep trying. Watching you grasp at straws is rather amusing.

So...because a woman didn't want to bear your child...you're saying, its not right for ANYONE to be able to make that choice?

stocktrader23:

I am not grasping in any way - one thing I am doing tho is observing a lot.

Plan9:

Is this "your child" hypothetical??

Did you just power down your brain?

My previous comments (i.e. outside of rape) where made to exclude rape victims from further comments.


Keep digging your grave...


I'm still waiting for you to tell me what you would say to a man that just had his (or half his) child aborted for no other reason than it was an inconvenience to the woman.

No.


The stupidity of people here baffles me day after day.

broke:

Yes, my power is down sadly, but I still comprehend in my slow way.

Digging my grave?? You just said in several previous posts that women who have abortions are "sluts" and "stupid sluts". You did not qualify them other by the "rape" reason. Are you saying this is not correct now??

I have nothing to say to a man who's partner had an abortion - I have zero qualifications to say anything since this is a matter for all concerned and those who have some qualifications. Do you have any qualifications?

Gee -- how can I put this so you will understand...

All women that get abortions (outside of rape) are stupid sluts.

They are selfish stupid sluts if they do not take into account their 'partners' wishes.

Get it?

What do you think?

Engage brain for one second... it will help us all.





(side note: funny how someone can bump an old thread and it's possible to make all the usual suspects dance. )

broke:

OK.. So we have established that which you said, then retracted and have now confirmed - all women who have abortions outside rape are stupid sluts.

What I think does not matter. Since you asked, it is clear you have a problem and I have no doubt you do not have "qualifications" (as in a medical/psych sense).

Point me to where I retracted.


Please.

If you thought that for ONE second you wouldn't be repeatedly posting useless crap.



Fact 1:

I called bullshit on a stupid statement.

Fact 2:

You dopes now want to keep asking irrelevant questions about my position regarding idiot sluts in hopes that I will somehow prove your case for you.

Not going to happen.

broke:

All I can say is... I know nothing about you, same as you know nothing about me.

However, reading some of the stuff you have written on this thread either indicates you have had a personal experience in this area OR ... without resorting to the GFY "owned" and "idiot" lingo, you have a problem in "judgement" OR... no offense, you have nada experience of anything and seriously need an education.

A "transparent" thread and you said a lot - about you :)

Good luck man - and chill out! :thumbsup

Hmm... I'd go with the former.



Trust me if I were anymore chilled out today then I'd have been dead. If I were upset, you'd have seen an Amp-like performance.

;)

I've been laughing the whole time.


Good luck to you as well.

I don't want to edit... cause Webby might 'catch' me.

But performance should have been meltdown in the last post.


:Graucho

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

let me get this straight - you fucking idiots..

first, this bitch tries to kill her baby - and you morons are on her side? but.. id assume that if it was a stranger that had broken into the house and tried to murder a pregnant woman and instead got killed himself, then he would be 'owned' right? you fucking morons cant get more hypocritical. in both cases, there is a child (unborn) that someone is trying to kill. yet if a stranger does it, its not ok, the man should be hung or something. but if the mother does it, its a 'sad' story. wake the fuck up assholes. both people deserve what they get.

also, saying this girl made the mistake of having sex at 18 is laughable. thats like saying, "oh i decided to swim in nuclear waste for a few minutes, and now i likely have <insert life-changing disease> that i have to deal with for the rest of my life". yet the person who would do something like this is an idiot, but the girl who has unprotected sex is again - a "sad story". wrong, idiots. both people know fully well of the consequences of their actions. if youre gonna have unprotected sex, you just might get pregnant, and have to deal with it for the rest of your life. if you go swim in nuclear waste or something, you just might embark on a life changing incident that youll have to deal with forever. again, both people are idiots, and get what they deserve.

Not impressed...

baby != embryo. Look it up "you fucking idiot"

kill her baby?? at seven weeks she's squirting strawberry jam. next you morons will be telling us we're killing millions of potential lives every time we jerk off.
pathetic.

and arguing that it's taking the decision out of the man's hands... christ... I haven't known one guy who's girlfriend had an abortion wasn't the one giving her the money to do it. Yeah it should be a issue discussed between the two parties but i don't know how it's relevant to the story at hand. Besides most teenage pregnancies SHOULD be aborted. Yeah just what we need - MORE white trash.

What is patchetic is no one seems to be able to wrap their little heads around the issue.

My body my choice?

Weak.



Someone give me a non-selfish reason for choosing to abort (do I need to say outside of rape still?)....

That society would be better off without another teenage white trash mom getting welfare for her white trash baby that has a higher tendency to grow up into a criminal.

wrap your little head around that.

she was doing society a favour.
besides what action do we ever take that doesn't have our best interests and selfishness at heart.. underneath it all? selfishness doesn't make it wrong. It just means she's got motivation to do the right thing.

Your little society rant is selfish. I asked for a non-selfish reason.

More specifically, a non-selfish reason that a woman could use as justification for an abortion.


Don't worry someday you'll get it.


Great -- now we've gone past absolving women of there decisions and moved to absolving parents for raising shitheads.

Congrats.

I've read some parts of this thread... The only thing I have to say is a bunch of you are fucking morons who speak as if you have been through it all, but yet you havent stopped sucking mommys tit.



:321GFY

stopping a drain on resources by stopping the development of a potential human for the betterment of society is altruistic not selfish.

my rant is selfish yes, if i was in her position and aborted then no, it would be altruistic, we're talking her situation, not mine..

it's a pity you can't get past petty issues of "selfishness" and see the big picture.

besides any guy that knocks up a 18 year old girl isn't responsible enough to be a parent.

there are plenty of abnormalities that a child would be way better off never born with.. and I'm not talking simple Down Syndrome type shit.

funny hearing men speak of abortion because they would never have to make that desicion themselves...

i have a feeling that if you guys were the ones that got pregnant..there would be so many more abortions...and all of you would be considered stupid sluts...

hypocrites

:321GFY

still waiting.

And you would be the one at the mercy of our decision.

Want the baby -- fuck you -- I'll abort it.

What's my other choice... this chick can pay for all my shoes for the next 18 years.


hmmm...

lemme think.

waiting for someone to explain it to you?

you've been given a good reason. You can refuse to accept it if you want to.. somehow the rest of the world will continue on.

The betterment of society is the reason sluts use abortion as birth control?

Please.

Anyways the reason given for an action and any morality other people impose on it has absolutely no bearing on whether or not it's an empirically positive thing to do so bleating on about selfishness (even after being given an unselfish reason) is just a trite fallacy.

you asked for one reason. you got it, you didn't ask for every reason every woman has ever run through their internal dialogue.

with some foetal abnormalities it's selfish to let the baby survive to term, as they will suffer for a few months then die..