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Old 09-16-2003, 06:46 PM   #1
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Wow. Anyone read the article in Vanity Fair >

Wow. Anyone read the article about all the Bush family / Bin Laden family / Saudi royals dealings in this month's Vanity Fair.

Some seriously fucked up things. Like right during the 9/11 crisis when every commercial and private plane in the US was grounded by the FAA, the White House secretly authorized private Saudi Lear Jets and Saudi govt jets to fly all over the US to pickup 140 members of the Saud family royals and members of the Bin Laden family that were in the US at the time, to get them out of the country before any of them could be questioned by the FBI about any info they had on Osama.

This comes pretty darn close to Treason.

Some very enlightening info and really makes you wonder about the integrity of the President and the other players in the White House.

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Integrity and the white house..or politics in general should NEVER be used in the same sentence.

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Bits and peices of information about the bush/bin laden/saudi thing have been out for a while, sadly however none of the mainstream news media seemed to have picked up on it. Hopefully this will bring some much needed attention.
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Wow. Anyone read the article about all the Bush family / Bin Laden family / Saudi royals dealings in this month's Vanity Fair.

Some seriously fucked up things. Like right during the 9/11 crisis when every commercial and private plane in the US was grounded by the FAA, the White House secretly authorized private Saudi Lear Jets and Saudi govt jets to fly all over the US to pickup 140 members of the Saud family royals and members of the Bin Laden family that were in the US at the time, to get them out of the country before any of them could be questioned by the FBI about any info they had on Osama.

This comes pretty darn close to Treason.

Some very enlightening info and really makes you wonder about the integrity of the President and the other players in the White House.

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yeah I read that, pretty fucked up that they would allow the flights to leave...and they deny it all, even more fucked up.
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Integrity and the white house..or politics in general should NEVER be used in the same sentence.

what he said...
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This comes pretty darn close to Treason.

Some very enlightening info and really makes you wonder about the integrity of the President and the other players in the White House.


They like to make it hard for us to follow the ball... seems like every week some new appaling activity is discovered or occurs.

We should just pick one of these jaw dropping events - like this one, and use it for grounds to impeach & dismiss anyone involved.
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What really bothered me most of all during the most vicious attack on America since its inception the Bush administration took valuable and precious time and human resources to worry about scurring Bin Laden's fucking relatives and the Saudi's out of the US. That's just plain inexcusable. They should have been detained and questioned inside out.

What the fuck is up with this???? And why was the whole story kept tucked under wraps for 2 years???
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Good X-Files shit...

I wonder if these assholes were packed to leave -- if they were -- that pretty much explains everything... and we are in for some real shit when the revolt begins... Personally I'm just waiting for when Bush will just say FUCK YOU and we'll return to medieval times...
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What really bothered me most of all during the most vicious attack on America since its inception the Bush administration took valuable and precious time and human resources to worry about scurring Bin Laden's fucking relatives and the Saudi's out of the US. That's just plain inexcusable. They should have been detained and questioned inside out.

What the fuck is up with this???? And why was the whole story kept tucked under wraps for 2 years???
I dont know much about the magazine vanity fair, but where did they get this info?
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I dont know much about the magazine vanity fair, but where did they get this info?
Vanity Fair is connected to lots and lots of political and business insiders.
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Vanity Fair is connected to lots and lots of political and business insiders.
when did the article hit the stands??? do you trust them???
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Bin Laden's family had to be protected from the obvious harassment they'd get. Osama had no ties to his family in the US. In fact, he's considered the family outcast. I know he had one cousin or something at Harvard and he had to leave because people would mistakenly associate him with terrorism and do something stupid.

Don't get me wrong, I hate Bush, but what I hate more is liberals pulling shit out of their asses that has already been explained and trying to make a story out of it. That only makes the left wing look less credible.
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when did the article hit the stands??? do you trust them???
Vanity Fair is a highly respected publication. Not sure, I just read that article while I was at a book store earlier tonight.
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What really bothered me most of all during the most vicious attack on America since its inception the Bush administration took valuable and precious time and human resources to worry about scurring Bin Laden's fucking relatives and the Saudi's out of the US. That's just plain inexcusable. They should have been detained and questioned inside out.

What the fuck is up with this???? And why was the whole story kept tucked under wraps for 2 years???
It wasn't kept under wraps...and has been reported by various media almost from day one.
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This comes pretty darn close to Treason.

That about covers it. These guys treat the constitution like so much toilet paper.
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Are you talking about Coulter's book, or actual treason?
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Integrity and the white house..or politics in general should NEVER be used in the same sentence.

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Wow. Anyone read the article about all the Bush family / Bin Laden family / Saudi royals dealings in this month's Vanity Fair.

Some seriously fucked up things. Like right during the 9/11 crisis when every commercial and private plane in the US was grounded by the FAA, the White House secretly authorized private Saudi Lear Jets and Saudi govt jets to fly all over the US to pickup 140 members of the Saud family royals and members of the Bin Laden family that were in the US at the time, to get them out of the country before any of them could be questioned by the FBI about any info they had on Osama.

This comes pretty darn close to Treason.

Some very enlightening info and really makes you wonder about the integrity of the President and the other players in the White House.

What nexus is there that would even begin to qualify for an act of treason?
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Why would the white house not want members of the saudi royal family to be questioned by the FBI?
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Why would the white house not want members of the saudi royal family to be questioned by the FBI?
I don't think it would look good politically for all the dealings the Bush family has had with these folks to come out publicly.
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I don't think it would look good politically for all the dealings the Bush family has had with these folks to come out publicly.
True, but it also doesn't look good that the white house made an exception for the saudi royal family members at a time when millions of american citizens were being foced not to fly for about two days.

Seems hard to make the argument that the white house was looking out for the best interests of americans citizens when they're rolling out the red carpet for saudis at a time of intense crisis.
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Why would the white house not want members of the saudi royal family to be questioned by the FBI?
The FBI may not have had the authority to question "members of the saudi royal family". They may very well have been sovereigns with diplomatic immunity.
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It wasn't kept under wraps...and has been reported by various media almost from day one.
Hmm...no response.
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What nexus is there that would even begin to qualify for an act of treason?
And yet again...no response.
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The FBI may not have had the authority to question "members of the saudi royal family". They may very well have been sovereigns with diplomatic immunity.
If that were true, then what was the reason for allowing them to fly around and get out of the country while everyone else was grounded?
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If that were true, then what was the reason for allowing them to fly around and get out of the country while everyone else was grounded?
I think it would be reasons more so than reason.
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Here's an article from Sky news in the UK about this:

http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0...758358,00.html
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Wow. Anyone read the article about all the Bush family / Bin Laden family / Saudi royals dealings in this month's Vanity Fair.

Some seriously fucked up things. Like right during the 9/11 crisis when every commercial and private plane in the US was grounded by the FAA, the White House secretly authorized private Saudi Lear Jets and Saudi govt jets to fly all over the US to pickup 140 members of the Saud family royals and members of the Bin Laden family that were in the US at the time, to get them out of the country before any of them could be questioned by the FBI about any info they had on Osama.

This comes pretty darn close to Treason.

Some very enlightening info and really makes you wonder about the integrity of the President and the other players in the White House.

Been out for awhile. Just not mainstream. That is why I keep telling people to read up on things other than mainstream news.
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Snopes has done a lengthy review of this

http://www.snopes2.com/rumors/flight.htm
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Hmm my friend is saying this news may have been in the new york times right after it happened...
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What really bothered me most of all during the most vicious attack on America since its inception the Bush administration took valuable and precious time and human resources to worry about scurring Bin Laden's fucking relatives and the Saudi's out of the US. That's just plain inexcusable. They should have been detained and questioned inside out.

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I've heard it several times from Canadian and British news sources. Obviously FOX isn't going to pick up a story like that.
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I've heard it several times from Canadian and British news sources. Obviously FOX isn't going to pick up a story like that.
I have seen it reported...multiple times...on American Media...and I suspect Fox is one of those...since I also view Fox as well as view and read other media...and has been reported almost from day one.
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I have seen it reported...multiple times...on American Media...and I suspect Fox is one of those...since I also view Fox as well as view and read other media...and has been reported almost from day one.
Fox NEVER covered this story, not even in passing. The rest of the American media mentioned bits and pieces of this story in very fine print but it was generally drowned out by all the other nonsense they routinely carry.

There is SO MUCH MORE info that will eventually get out into the mainstream - like the extensive BBC reporting that 6 of the alleged 9-11 hijackers are STILL ALIVE! Why isn't THAT front page news in every newspaper in America? Why isn't that being talked about 24/7 by CNN? Why? I'll tell you why - because the function of the major media in the US is for MISDIRECTION OF THE MASSES.

Worried that the inspector general's report is about to detail the CIA's extensive involvement in the drug trade? No problem. Just flood the airwaves 24/7 with the "important" story that Clinton got a blow job from his intern and that will drown out this less important story.

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Fox NEVER covered this story, not even in passing. The rest of the American media mentioned bits and pieces of this story in very fine print but it was generally drowned out by all the other nonsense they routinely carry.
I cannot argue that Fox NEVER covered the story...as I cannot remember with any certainty if they did or not. I doubt that you can definitively argue that Fox didn't cover the story...other than saying they didn't. What I do know is...the story has been out there and has been reported by multiple main stream TV media as well as main stream print media...and has been...from almost day one...though I cannot specifically cite a date when I first learned about the topic. I suspect since it was so widely reported that Fox would have reported it also...as I cannot see any reason why they would not. There would have been multiple logical reasons to do what was done...so I do not view what was done as having any shady implications.

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I would suspect the "story" about "6 of the alleged 9-11 hijackers are STILL ALIVE" is not widely reported because it is more suited for the tabloids along side "Richard Nixon personally took Jackie Gleason on a tour of the secret facility in Ohio where the Rozwell Aliens are being kept".

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Worried that the inspector general's report is about to detail the CIA's extensive involvement in the drug trade? No problem. Just flood the airwaves 24/7 with the "important" story that Clinton got a blow job from his intern and that will drown out this less important story.
CIA and DEA involvement in the drug trade has been reported many, many times...and when there are not new stories about this they often revive the old stories about this. Of course there are rogues/crooks in any organization where there large sums of money to be made. Nothing new about this.

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Wonton has been ahead of the curve now for two whole years. A small percent of the mainstream population will eventually catch up. But sadly, they will be too late and a police state will already be upon us.
You and those like you are the only ones that are being misdirected and are not "ahead of the curve" but more akin to being behind the "eight ball".
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I watch news all darn day on Sat and Sun to catch up weekly. I have seen no hint of this story on any major outlet. Not even the notorious Bush hater Bill Mahr has commented on this story. Vanity Fair has some of the best journalists in America contributing weekly so I value any story they print. Anyone in the magazine biz will tell you they are top notch on the level with The New Yorker, Esquire etc.




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A local paper in Florida also did an expose story on how the immigration officers that let the terrorist group's leader Atta in even though his documents weren't in order got promotions as did others in his department. That's also very fucked up. Had they followed procedure 9/11 might not have happened at all.
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If this shit goes on in the US, it'll become a damn policenation. Bush will be the next Ceausesco? Scary shit, honestly.
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Integrity and the white house..or politics in general should NEVER be used in the same sentence.

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PS: Ann Coultier is a very confused and quite possibly frigid individiual.
Yep...suffers with never having had an orgasm syndrome.
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