Ignore him. He is just trying to get attention from me. He is like a fly that will not go away.

Are you still doing new people, or is this just a fight with SleazyDream now?

ok you big sag of fat shit. Here we go:

So you say your chineese traffic drop when you droped my trade? Let's see:
http://www.pichunter.com/stats.jpg

3.8 % !! You have over 40%, so who has the chinesse traffic now ? huh?

Now, let me give all of you some information about this all mighty world famous Elite Sleazy.

First of all, Sleazy has no clue about today's Adult bussiness. And it really really bothers him. It is killing him seeing all these new sites poping up left and right having much more traffic then he has and ever will. Simply because he does live in stone age , like Chocker said. Sleazy can't learn how to do modern bussiness online, simply because he is too old and stupid to learn such things. The only thing that's keeping him alive now is his "reputation" and the money he made looooong time ago when TGPs were in dipers.

Today, his biggest money makers are Adult Friend Finder (because they rebill quiete well and he's been promoting them for years) and off course , the world famous cyber cat, or whatever that company is called that sells banners on the hun, and sleazy and others..

Now I don't know exactely how cyber cat works, but i'd imagine they pay per impression. Well, sleazy figure a way of making more money, he figured, I will buy cheap ass chineese traffic, it will
a) Grow impressions on my banner thus cyber cat will pay more
b) I will look bigger on sextracker, thus attracting more trades and improving my status of "Elite"
c) I will send out more on my trade links

Off course noone will ever admit this, because it would cost too much money to do so. Cyber cat would immidiately drop him, and he would loose his soooo beloved Elite status, for which, btw, he spends thousands of dollars each winter at the conventions. IT's not because he loves you guys, it's not because he wants to help this bussiness, and it's not because he wants to make new bussiness. It is because he wants to show off his "Eliteness" and to buy his respect from newbies. That all alone, is worth a lot of money to him, because he has serious pride issues and should seek help.

As for his methods of detecting "bot traffic" and whatever else he is talking about..well guys,.. let me tell you, this guy doesn't know what Perl is. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if he thought "Unix" is some sort of a STD.

Sleazy, I do feel pitty for you. I really do. I can only imagine how it must feel to be loosing your ground under the feed. But maybe it would be wiser to stop attacking the better ones, those who know this business better then you do. Stop attacking, and start learning, you will do better.

May I ask what counter you are using there?

Andre

GRAB SOME POPCORN!

porngraph.com

Thnx

Andre

8 more pages of posting, here we go...

that's one step too far.

:stop

yep.

thanks for the laugh gotys.
Something TRYING to be funny couldn't have done better.


how come you took the counter off?

Attention from you...I'm just here for the sheer entertainment value. I bite my tongue everyday and save all my special low blows for Choker.

These guys truly think that the guy with the best script, will have the best/biggest site.
they have no clue about the surfer, $$ per visitor, or revenue per gig, all they know is the trade scripts.


some of us put the surfer FIRST.

Wow, nice defence there buddy! Way to defend yourself!

great thread!

Yeah? What do you know about revenue per surfer? Huh? You trully believe you know more then me? Compare your site to mine smart man. Where is your marketing? Putting up static banner that's pre-paid, then listing your own galleries, that promote the same stuff for past couple years.....those are your marketing skills to squeeze the most dollar out of each surfer? Then it must really work great for you buddy, cause it seems like you haven't change your strategy in many years now....... you must really be a smart bussiness man. Because noone's marketing knowhow is good enough to last more then a year, so you gotta be the god of all marketing.

Keep on dreaming sleazy.

You might wanna run to the store and buy a case.

Facts...................

Sleazy has been buying Chinese traffic from brokers for some time now. How do you think he doubled his traffic in one month?

Sleazy knows DAMN well I am not going to reveal the brokers that are selling this Chinese traffic to him. I gave my word I will not and I keep my word.

If you are trading with Sleazy, check your referal logs, EXPECIALLY traffic from pages of his NOT in his root directory.

Now Sleazy, no more Burger Boy for you. I now give you the title "Rice Boy" since you deal is such hi volumes of Chinese traffic.

Next time you buy Chinese traffic from a broker, make sure he is not buying my unsold overflow. You think brokers don't buy from each other to feed their orders? You are a DUMBASS Rice Boy.

Now, buying Chinese traffic is a far cry from cheating, but Rice Boy should not throw stones when he lives in a glass house. I will celebrate the day your site falls to page 2 on Sextracker, RICE BOY:thumbsup

i didn't have to. you post is like someone on crack without enough money for their next hit and lashing out at the world not having a clue what they're babbling about. :thumbsup

:1orglaugh

I will get to new ones as soon as I can. But this fight with Sleazy is priority. It's fun watching him sweat bullets.

funny how no one is backing this up?

cept maybe gotys who's mad at me cause I cancelled his trade cause I caught him hitbotting. lol

I don't buy chineese traffic from a broker.

I'm actually seriously debating suing choker for his lies right now.

Sleazy's ratings falling down, falling down, falling down

hahaha it even ryhmes

a good description of yourself, truly. This post, at least, hasn't seen ONE sentence from you that was backed by somethign you actually know. All you say is shit you have no clue about.

And I see you still haven't come up with a defence. People do that when they are at the end of their skills...when they are trully fucked by the overhelming list of facts,...all they could do then is to point out stupid shit like...you are fat, or you are bold,...or your momma jokes.....I pitty you

damn, i always miss the crazy threads.

Sue away RICE BOY. I will be glad to go that route with you. BRING IT THE FUCK ON PUNK

Too late, I am suing you for your lies right now.

Why is it that Choker's always the first with these sorts of retorts?

That sentence is a lie, and is damaging my bussiness. If it wasn't so difficult to sue canadians, I'd fucking get your ass right this week asshole.

Tell you what RICE BOY, lets do it. I will get a attorney tomorrow, and we can sue and counter sue. Maybe you might wanna look at all the accusations you threw at me withoout evidence. Sue me BITCH. I would be fine with owning all your domains.

You have my full psychologial and financial support. I have great attornies who will do anythign for my money too,..so lemme know if there is anything I can do to help

This thread is somewhat depressing.

I have learned a lot from both of these men. They both have knowlege that many would give a left nut to acquire.

I love Choker's technology. I wish I'd thought of it. When you take the time to read every page on his site you can't help but be amazed. I know, because I've read every page I can find. And I re-read them because there's too much great info for all of it to soak in by simply reading it once.

Sleazy... he's from a ring of some very powerful men in this industry. And he's always been surfer friendly. I've never met him in person but some of the people I respect and admire say he's good people.



THIS THREAD proves the 'powerful' in this industry are normal everyday people. For some reason I keep thinking of the old TV Series "Gunsmoke".

This is getting better and better :thumbsup

http://www.encounterusa.com/images/ala-pic-popcorn.jpg

Very weak response Choker.... you slippin dude..

From what I have read you are throwing accusations around with no facts or proof to back it up. Sleazy has provided proof.... screen cap of his traffic to back the chinese traffic etc. Then you slam him for what he provides.

Why don't you start showing us something to back what your saying?

i can see lensman's smile here!

LOL, let him pull his "I'm gonna sue" threats on someone he can bully. Not me. I wished he would sue me, with a coountersuit I would own his house, his hot tub, and his sites. Sue me Rice BOY, I DARE YOU :321GFY

UMM, well what about the first accusations thrown by Sleazy about my traffic being hitbots?? Double standards here it seems. He shows you a screen shot from sextracker and that is proof to you? LOL, ok man

choker, I offered a truce. I suggest you take it.

I'm really getting sick of your lies, and as I've already shown I can make this VERY ugly for you as you are constantly trip over your own lying words. You have NO ethics WHATSO EVER from this thread.

post who is telling you I have chineese traffic. I'd bet dollars to donuts it's gotys. - and why is he saying it, cause I dumed him cause stupid little old low tech me caught him hitbotting. Now he wants revenge.

my traffic is solid. I respect all my trades.

can you say the same? if so POST em. (i saw your list once and I wan't impressed with a lot of the sources you have. I'm not about to list from memory who those sites were though, so help a brother out and post your list won't ya)

you still havnt' listed all your clients... I'm not going to deny that you have some very respectable clients, but I still content that they make up a VERY VERY small percentage of your total traffic.

but who knows - I may be wrong. post the list and lets see :thumbsup

I can make this a LOT worse for you if you want, as I back up what i say with FACT (unlike you). And I have some others facts about you that arn't nice, but I don't like taking the low road and I see no need to make you look even more stupid than you already do.


so lets see it. prove me wrong - please PROVE me wrong.
All I ask is two things.

1. post who this mysterious broker is that's telling you I have chinees traffic.

2. post a list of ALL your gallery traffic sources.

two little things. I've been asking them for pages now.

you have two choices. either stop LYING about me and leave this thread and I'll let it die outa respect for what you have achlomished with your site in such little time, or post the EVIDENCE.

Your choice. one or the other.

I think he's probably the only one smiling.

:(

I've never said all your traffic was hitbot - but I believe a lot of it is. Not that you do it intensionally, but your setup is a BIG target for it.

It's why you started paying in traffic rather than money. That was smart move by the way - if you're getting hitbot in then one might as well send it back out to the fuckers who were loading you up with it in the first place. :thumbsup

Im not gonna disect every post between you two..but he is still the only one to put something in here that is proof. Something that is tangable.

You have not provided andy tangable evidence to support your claims. Everything from you so far is hearsay unless those brokers have provided you their stats.

what exactly could you sue me for?

word

like anyone here believes you can afford a lawyer :1orglaugh

ok that's it. You will publicly announce right now that the sentence above is a lie, and that you have no proof that I was EVER hitbotting anyone, since I never was, you cannot have a proof.

I want to see an appology from you, here on the board. Tommorow I will start working on the case and you WILL be sued by Shelter X, LLC., I swear to God.

So you may wanna reconsider what will you do now, because I am 100% serious right now

please do. I have fact to back that up

What a fucking great thread!

:glugglug

I'm still waiting for him to do me. I didn't know this was going to be another "TGP guys with insecurity about the size of their penis fight" thread. I thought it was about slamming all sorts of people. ;)

Who the fuck do you think you are making demands to me? You think you are tripping me up and making me look bad? LOL, You really have no grasp of reality, do you? The people I deal with is NONE of your business, nor anyone elses. The only thing that is public is the TGPs that sell traffic to galleries thru me. THAT IS IT. And that is just a very small part of my business. I do not tell others who I buy from or sell to. So stop asking, it's none of your business. You sir are the one that is going to loose a lot of traffic over this thread, not me. You need to wake up to 2003 and stop living in 1998 or wherever you are from.

Yeah choker slam me please :glugglug