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Old 09-12-2003, 12:04 PM   #1
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Fuck You Stud Money (LEE)

Well as some of you may have read yesterday (http://bbs.gfyboard.com/showthread.p...hreadid=173195) I challenged Stud Money on their claims of 95% member retention. They accepted this bet so I joined their program so I could get started on my end to build sites and ads to send them signups. I requested that they give me access to their members area so I could get some content for promotion. I requested this on this board, with an email to their [email protected] and even their affiliate ticketing system. They even replied on the board that a un/pw would be sent out etc. Well with no response to my request in about 24hrs. I am dropping out of this challenge, I'm not going to waste my time with a sponsor that has time to whore their sig out all day and make ridiculous claims that we all know are not true and not give good support to their affiliates.

Here's a screen shot of their ticketing system with my unread and un-answered support ticket.


Also from a friend of mine here's a screen shot of his stats sending banner traffic to stud money from one of the largest gay TGPs. Where's those 1:60 ratios you keep raving about.


If your program was all you say it is you wouldn't have to be here whoring it out like this. Good programs speak for themselves and don't need a sig whore. They also have good support. Go ahead with the lies about how the email got lost and your amazing ratios and retention I'm done with this challenge and know now for a fact that your program SUCKS!


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Old 09-12-2003, 12:09 PM   #2
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Old 09-12-2003, 12:09 PM   #3
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cutetwink, will this work with your traffic?

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Old 09-12-2003, 12:10 PM   #4
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Old 09-12-2003, 12:10 PM   #6
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Old 09-12-2003, 12:15 PM   #7
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Sweet some more Stud Money drama

Will have a comprehensive reply to your post in a few
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Old 09-12-2003, 12:15 PM   #8
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Old 09-12-2003, 12:26 PM   #9
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cutetwink,

Despite the fact that your account still isn't activated, here are excerpts from three emails I sent out, personally, yesterday.


1- "Activation email"
Jacob,

Chris pointed me to your post on GFY. There seems to be a typo in your email address. This may be the reason you didn't not recieved the activation email. I have updated the you account from [email protected] to [email protected]

When I updated the account, I had an activation email resent. Please let me know if you recieved this one.

Regards,
Gary-Alan



2 - "movies for challenge"
We're actually having promo clips being done as we speak. As soon as they are available I will let you know.

They should be done shortly. I'll let you know when they are avaialble.

Regards,
Gary

3 - "FW: movies for challenge"
Jacob,

I still haven't heard from you regarding account activation. Once I hear back I will talk to the webmaster about setting up an acount.

Regards,
Gary-Alan

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Old 09-12-2003, 12:27 PM   #10
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i thought european lee agreed to leave the board.
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Old 09-12-2003, 12:29 PM   #11
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i thought european lee agreed to leave the board.
He did and he has, youll find that i am in fact Gary-Alan's brother Chris - some of you met me at the Hollywood show

Lee now runs the resource side of GA Media exclusively but thanks for putting your feedback into this thread
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Old 09-12-2003, 12:34 PM   #12
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Gary your lost dude you have sit here and beg for gallery makers, and have to lie to get them to even considering promoting your site.

Funny you sent me all these emails and I didn't even get one. Also if my account is not activated how come i could all of a sudden enter your webmasters area?

How come you don't respond to support tickets?

Gay brothers what are the odds of that.
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Old 09-12-2003, 12:34 PM   #13
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cutetwink,

As for your friends stats... you and everyone in this industry know that not all traffic is the same and how it's promoted is a factor.

As for the support ticket.... I will take this one on the chin. Since most of the questions were answered in emails I didn't look in the system. This one is totally my bad.

As for anything else, I'm not going to get into a pissing match.

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Old 09-12-2003, 12:35 PM   #14
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Old 09-12-2003, 12:39 PM   #15
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Gay brothers what are the odds of that.
I always heard that this was quite common. In fact, two of my gay friends have gay siblings.
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Old 09-12-2003, 12:42 PM   #16
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Sweet some more Stud Money drama

Will have a comprehensive reply to your post in a few

Stud Money ain't Lee huh? the above is classic annoying Lee, if Gary Allen does have a brother 'Chris' this ain't him, it's Lee.
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Gary your lost dude you have sit here and beg for gallery makers, and have to lie to get them to even considering promoting your site.

Funny you sent me all these emails and I didn't even get one. Also if my account is not activated how come i could all of a sudden enter your webmasters area?

How come you don't respond to support tickets?

Gay brothers what are the odds of that.
#1 We havent begged for gallery makers anywhere have we?

We asked if anyone would like to make galleries for us in exchange for a higher payout, thats called barter and happens a lot in this industry

#2 Perhaps you should recheck your inbox then and also maybe contact your host to see if you had any downtime yesterday? Other people were also emailed by us and as far as we are aware they have received their emails okay

#3 Your support ticket wasnt answered BECAUSE (as Gary has already mentioned) he assumed your email replie was good enough.

#4 Gay Brothers, never heard of the Brewer Twins

There were better ways of welching out of your challenge with us but what the hell, all the drama on GFY helps
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Stud Money ain't Lee huh? the above is classic annoying Lee, if Gary Allen does have a brother 'Chris' this ain't him, it's Lee.
Hey at least spell Gary-Alans name right
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Old 09-12-2003, 12:54 PM   #19
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I MET CHRIS! Sorry folks... this soap opera would be more entertaining with a mysterious gay brother who nobody's met... But he does exist... Sorry!
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Old 09-12-2003, 12:57 PM   #20
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#1 We havent begged for gallery makers anywhere have we?

We asked if anyone would like to make galleries for us in exchange for a higher payout, thats called barter and happens a lot in this industry

#2 Perhaps you should recheck your inbox then and also maybe contact your host to see if you had any downtime yesterday? Other people were also emailed by us and as far as we are aware they have received their emails okay

#3 Your support ticket wasnt answered BECAUSE (as Gary has already mentioned) he assumed your email replie was good enough.

#4 Gay Brothers, never heard of the Brewer Twins

There were better ways of welching out of your challenge with us but what the hell, all the drama on GFY helps

#1 - 100 posts a day whoring your sig. Post threads like gallery makers wanted is not begging mkay.

#2 - I got email all day yesterday to that account you should have gary check his inbox and see if they bounced since he may of tried the worng address i joined with.

#3 - This is not the only thread talking about unanswered support tickets. But you have time to make 100 posts a day.

As for gary and his claim of not every ones traffic is not the same... my friend was sending BANNER CLICKED traffic not TGP gallery traffic it should have done better then your 1:60 bullshit lie.
And if you really have a 95% retention show us some proof publicly. Since I'm not going to expose you do it yourself.

Reagards,
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Old 09-12-2003, 12:58 PM   #21
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I have a mysterious gay brother... you can rent him if you like... we all need one!
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I MET CHRIS! Sorry folks... this soap opera would be more entertaining with a mysterious gay brother who nobody's met... But he does exist... Sorry!
Yep Yep ... I met him as well .... He DOES exist



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Old 09-12-2003, 01:26 PM   #24
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I've also met Chris.....on several occasions....

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I MET CHRIS! Sorry folks... this soap opera would be more entertaining with a mysterious gay brother who nobody's met... But he does exist... Sorry!
Hey Aly

How are things for you?

Dont pay attention to anything Lee tells you im taking this in my stride rofl
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Hmmm the last time i saw you your fingers were'nt working either Coy haha.

Lost or ruined any more lighters lately?
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I've also met Chris.....on several occasions....

Hey, Chris...big hugs to ya, darlin'.
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Huge hugs back to you also my love
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Old 09-12-2003, 01:40 PM   #28
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Old 09-12-2003, 05:35 PM   #29
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Jesus, you may not be Lee, but you act exactly like him on this board.

Your shit, does NOT recur 95% so don't bother to say it does.

I didn't get an activation email when I signed up, either.

I don't plan on promoting you guys at all, after seeing all this stupid shit.

Neither will alot of the people I come in contact with.

Get a new PR rep, ASAP.
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http://mygaylove.com

It would but I only send to my own sites. Sorry.
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I see you joined my program Gary. How much traffic you going to be able to send?
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check your tickets again man, you are lagging



Gary learn how to support your webmasters its key to running a good program.

Have your brother check the tickets and not make 100 posts a day maybe?
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wow! way to piss off some of the biggest gay webmasters
GaryAlan, DrewKole is right, you better get a new PR person ASAP

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Did they respond to your ticket yet SetTheWorldOnFire?
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Well i think this is a first for GFY,

I seen battles between
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Designers,
Dialers,
Traffic Brokers,

and now finally
Two Gay programs
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Well i think this is a first for GFY,

I seen battles between
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and now finally
Two Gay programs
Well at least somebody has seen this for what it really is finally.

Someone is pissed that a new gay sponsor is around, they issued a challenge to us, signed up for an account, didnt activate that acount, posted their 'friends' stats to back up their claim.

Just happens to be that their 'friend' owns the #1 lowest converting account in our system LMAO.

Not to worry though, Cute Twink will be receiving a shit load of traffic in a few days and we will be certain to post a screenshot of our stats for all to see
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Well at least somebody has seen this for what it really is finally.

Someone is pissed that a new gay sponsor is around, they issued a challenge to us, signed up for an account, didnt activate that acount, posted their 'friends' stats to back up their claim.

Just happens to be that their 'friend' owns the #1 lowest converting account in our system LMAO.

Not to worry though, Cute Twink will be receiving a shit load of traffic in a few days and we will be certain to post a screenshot of our stats for all to see
I could care less if there is another gay sponsor in fact your site looks great and I was going to promote it before you even before you came to the board and spamming it. Unfortunately your sign up form was broken, then you cam on here telling blatant lies and I called you out so I signed up then. And after I have see how you guys act and promote your program and support your webmasters I'm not going to ever send you a hit.

Go ahead send me a shit load of traffic and post stats I have not sat here lying about how my sites convert in fact I have not said a thing about my sites.

I'm interested to see how much traffic you guys even have to send.
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Well i think this is a first for GFY,

I seen battles between
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and now finally
Two Gay programs
2 drama queers fighting! j/k, I have a gay alter ego
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2 drama queers fighting! j/k, I have a gay alter ego

I'm a dramatic straight guy what can i say.
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Old 09-14-2003, 07:58 PM   #43
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lol ... would be kinda fun to see em whip out their dicks & battle

stoney is one of the few straight guys that works in the gay market and actually knows what he's doing. i dont think this was so much a battle of gay programs, as it was somone being called out for making ridiculous claims and then having shitty customer service. 95% retention is fucking stupid. sorry and we all know that webmaster service is top priority, right along with customer service. answer your email, or die.

as for the programs... ive never used garys program, was planning to send a bit of traffic to test it out. ive sent stoney traffic and it converts like mad. the boy knows his shit. i hear he's pretty hot too, for a straight guy.
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Old 09-14-2003, 08:44 PM   #45
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Never tried the studmoney program yet. They have some nice sites though.

Too bad all this shit has to come on the boards.
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lol ... would be kinda fun to see em whip out their dicks & battle

stoney is one of the few straight guys that works in the gay market and actually knows what he's doing. i dont think this was so much a battle of gay programs, as it was somone being called out for making ridiculous claims and then having shitty customer service. 95% retention is fucking stupid. sorry and we all know that webmaster service is top priority, right along with customer service. answer your email, or die.

as for the programs... ive never used garys program, was planning to send a bit of traffic to test it out. ive sent stoney traffic and it converts like mad. the boy knows his shit. i hear he's pretty hot too, for a straight guy.
Thanks for the kind words Dale. By the way your dawgybucks.com site is looking great and should do real well for you.

Anyone looking for another gay program that converts give dawgy's sites a shot they are great.
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Old 09-15-2003, 07:46 AM   #47
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I've also met Chris. Nice guy.
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Old 09-15-2003, 08:10 AM   #48
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lol ... would be kinda fun to see em whip out their dicks & battle

Dale, i think it's time you and start fighting too you silly faggot. I'll whip out my dick and let you take the first lick
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Old 09-15-2003, 08:59 AM   #49
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Dale, i think it's time you and start fighting too you silly faggot. I'll whip out my dick and let you take the first lick
i wouldnt lick anything you have, even with grogan's tongue.
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Old 09-15-2003, 01:42 PM   #50
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Never tried the studmoney program yet. They have some nice sites though.

Too bad all this shit has to come on the boards.
I would not have brought this to the board had they not come here lying about their program. If they would have not made such ridiculous claims I would have never called them on it, or made the challenge, and this thread would have never happen.
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