hummmm ContentGod or A-Conman?

[Argoz]

Any suggestions?

[AdultNex]

ContentGod.

[Tipsy]

I'd say the exact opposite - conman. Less features but at least it's designed to manage a paysite and works.

[Argoz]

Hummmm again

[Groove]

Anyone know when Conman are going to have a MySQL version?

[Brujah]

Originally posted by Groove
Anyone know when Conman are going to have a MySQL version?

Just do a search. It exists, and it's free.

[vapewiz]

AdultWebWare I use this on 4+ paysites and love it.

[Brujah]

Originally posted by cutetwink
AdultWebWare I use this on 4+ paysites and love it.

Do a search before you go with AdultWebware. Might have a backdoor in their "compiled" system.

[vapewiz]

Originally posted by Brujah


Do a search before you go with AdultWebware. Might have a backdoor in their "compiled" system.

Did a search and only saw the thread where you said you wouldn't use them because its compiled... care to explain the possible backdoor with their compiled code for me?

[PornoDoggy]

Go with Content God ... I work for 'em. Hit me up at ICQ 146838770 if you have questions.

Tipsy - you've got an ICQ.

[ztik]

Originally posted by cutetwink
AdultWebWare I use this on 4+ paysites and love it.

That what I use too
good shit

[Brujah]

Originally posted by PornoDoggy
Go with Content God ... I work for 'em. Hit me up at ICQ 146838770 if you have questions.

Tipsy - you've got an ICQ.

Other than "I work for 'em", why use it ?

[Brujah]

Originally posted by cutetwink


Did a search and only saw the thread where you said you wouldn't use them because its compiled... care to explain the possible backdoor with their compiled code for me?

I don't feel like digging it up. I think the product is tied into someone else's servers in order to function. If so, when they disappear, your program doesn't work anymore.

[PornoDoggy]

Originally posted by Brujah


Other than "I work for 'em", why use it ?

Because it does have a lot more features than ConMan. You aren't just getting a paysite manager - you're getting site generation software for any type of site you produce (TGP galleries, AVS, free sites), and lets you build your own pic (or gallery) of the day.

And I think that my working for them is pretty important :D - but you are right, it wasn't a very thoughtful response.

[Argoz]

PornoDoggy, you are the programmer of ContentGod?

[PornoDoggy]

Ha!!!

It is safe to assume that I am not the programmer of Content God. I did once program my VCR, and usually can reset the time after the power goes out, though.

[Dravyk]

Hiya. I am not the programmer of Content God either. Nor do I work for them. But I do own it.

If there is anything I can do to be of assistance with any questions you might have, pixhell, please feel free to ask me, here or by email at sales at contentgod dot com or whathaveyou. If I myself do not know an answer, my team of programmers most certainly do -- especially the more technical questions.

I notice you didn't respond on their forum when they told you their free software was $200 if they install. Just think, for $300 more you get our program, installed for you, and lifetime support and documentation, plus all the advanced features we have.

I'd say the exact opposite - conman. Less features but at least it's designed to manage a paysite and works.

Tipsy, but over on the AConman forum I noticed you are always finding things that do not work or that can't be figured out because of lack of documentation. I take it then you prefer them over our working program because theirs is free?

Bruj, I have not seen any such animal as a MySQL version of that program and I've been all over the site. Maybe you can point it out to me please?

Because it does have a lot more features than ConMan. You aren't just getting a paysite manager - you're getting site generation software for any type of site you produce (TGP galleries, AVS, free sites), and lets you build your own pic (or gallery) of the day

PD, you forgot to mention htacess manager, special AVS htaccess code generation, submissions manager, total sponsor banner management including banners, HPAs and FPAs, total recips control to links lists and TGPs, and the logo generator.

Not to mention the built in WebEditPro module that allows for ON-SERVER page editing in both code and WYSYWYG modes. If one were to purchase that program seperately, it would be $150 for the first domain and $100 for each additional domain, yet it's bundled with Content God it's 100% free for all domains.

Amazing all you can get if you pay for something, huh?

[Snowone]

mysql version:

http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/showth...ysql+ aconman

[adultwebware]

Originally posted by Brujah


I don't feel like digging it up. I think the product is tied into someone else's servers in order to function. If so, when they disappear, your program doesn't work anymore.

1. Yes, that was a bug in our fraud-protection system in old version 2.xx
We had a bunch of personalities who paid us via credit cards (probably stolen) got the installation, some customizations done and oth. stuff and then within month or two dissappear. We received a charge back and lost of time after this.. That is why we've implemented it's protection in June 2002. But when our server was down in autumn first time, we have removed this and upgraded all our Clients' versions so that it has not any connectivity with AdultWebware.com now.

2. You say that we can disappear. You probably was cautioning about this since the last year. But we are still alive and preparing version 3.3 which may probably surprise you.

3. If you like open source why are you not going to use aConMan since it's open sourced? =)


We'ave payed to Zend $2880 for their Encoder Plus just to make sure our Clients' will have an exclusive commercial solution with lifetime support. Our child, Adult-Engine, has shown a 99% stability for the last year and 4 months.


I should not even make a comparison chart to say why we are better than discussed ones. Adult-Engine tells that itself. Our Clients know that. Our potential buyers may give it a look or ask us.

Our cempetitors will need at least 3 months just to come up with us - to make something alike.

[Dravyk]

we are still alive and preparing version 3.3

This is an amazing statement. The graphics on your site say you're at version 2.2. The text (right underneath your graphics, btw) say version 2.1. Your news section says you are at 2.4. Your site can't agree from page to page or even on the very same page what version you are at! And now here you stay yet a fourth different, um, version, saying here that you are at 3.2 (if you're about to release 3.3 then you're logically at 3.2).

Are you even sure you know WHAT version you're on?

Next, any software developer and every knowlegable consumer knows a new "oh-version" is a big thing, a major software development. Here your site has 2.x's littered about and yet you say you have a 3.x one and it's not touted anywhere on the site? Why that's absolutely amazing. Unheard of, even. Something just doesn't seem right there, now does it?

I should not even make a comparison chart to say why we are better than discussed ones.

LOL! No reason to. We've had the comparison chart up for a long time now. We've nothing to hide. Just as with our demo, it's a full-functional that anyone can freely try, no "signup forms and we'll get back to you", no clandestine "we'll show you -- but only in private" nonesense.

Funny, seems we have always been the only adult CMS to have a fully working open demo -- then and now, and we always will.

Our cempetitors will need at least 3 months just to come up with us - to make something alike.

Just keeps getting funnier! Or possibly your competitors can't find anything to catch up to, and also have zero desire to make something like yours in the first place. Food for thought.

[adultwebware]

This is an amazing statement. The graphics on your site say you're at version 2.2. The text (right underneath your graphics, btw) say version 2.1. Your news section says you are at 2.4. Your site can't agree from page to page or even on the very same page what version you are at! And now here you stay yet a fourth different, um, version, saying here that you are at 3.2 (if you're about to release 3.3 then you're logically at 3.2).

Thank you for exploring our website out. We are very busy with ongoing installs and new version developement so website is unfortunately stay unchanged.

We work more on solving our current Clients needs and demands and have no time to show off yet.

Are you even sure you know WHAT version you're on?

Yes, we and our Clients are 100% sure that they are going to receive their 3.3 upgrade very soon.

Thank you for taking care =)

LOL! No reason to. We've had the comparison chart up for a long time now. We've nothing to hide. Just as with our demo, it's a full-functional that anyone can freely try, no "signup forms and we'll get back to you", no clandestine "we'll show you -- but only in private" nonesense.

It's up to you. We always aimed ourselves to solve specific Clients needs that is why we ask them to drop us a line first. It helps us to understand their requirements and create more customized solution for them. And not just showing the demo.

Funny, seems we have always been the only adult CMS to have a fully working open demo -- then and now, and we always will.

It seems that we have always been the only adult CMS who installs a free 7-days trial at Clients' server to let them freely play with it.

Just keeps getting funnier! Or possibly your competitors can't find anything to catch up to, and also have zero desire to make something like yours in the first place. Food for thought.

Very glad to hear that =)

[mastamindz]

Go with conman, its opensource and powerful. I've used it many times and once you get the hang of it, you'll love it.

[tical]

I had a post somewhere w/ a mysql a-conman port.... no one gave a shit though... do a quick search

maybe you can find it... i'm kind of druink right now

sa da tay

[thommy]

hi guys,

i am new here and interessted in this thread because we want to implement a CMS for our sites.

as i am looking around since several months for the system that serves our needs, i would be interested in your experience with CMS-Programms.

as far as i found out yet, all the popular systems are made for smaller sites with only picture content (some of them are also managing video content).

but europe is a very different market as the US-market and we have to handle much more than that.

can anybody give me an answer wich CMS can

1. handle membersites with 10.000 + members

2. manage picture content including thumbnails and galeries including 2 different sized pictures (p.e: 1. pic = 450x450 - klick on that opens a full size pic)

3. manage videocontent

4. scheduled update for 100 or more updates in schedule list.

5. managing external links for livecams, chats etc. or special HTML-pages (scheduled)

6. managing news (scheduled)

7. managing update information (scheduled)

8. managing personal infobox (webmaster to individual user) scheduled

9. managing different sites with different specifications (p.e. picturesize in sites are different).

that means that the CMS must be able to do a central job and upload the result to a specified directory or server.
it alsso must be able to dedect unused content on the specified server or directory and delete it.

Is there anything like that?

Sorry for my english - I hope it was understandable :-)



thommy

[adultwebware]

Originally posted by thommy
hi guys,

i am new here and interessted in this thread because we want to implement a CMS for our sites.

as i am looking around since several months for the system that serves our needs, i would be interested in your experience with CMS-Programms.

as far as i found out yet, all the popular systems are made for smaller sites with only picture content (some of them are also managing video content).

Probably we are not popular yet, but we manage video and external content as well as the main one - pictures.

but europe is a very different market as the US-market and we have to handle much more than that.

can anybody give me an answer wich CMS can

1. handle membersites with 10.000 + members

10.000+ in not a problem for our solution (Adult-Engine)
If you would have more than 50.000+ galleries, we would suggest not to use users-based rotation - datbase will be too huge - 50 000 * 10 000 and may work slowly. But all the other rotation algorythms are available.

2. manage picture content including thumbnails and galeries including 2 different sized pictures (p.e: 1. pic = 450x450 - klick on that opens a full size pic)

Currently it supports resisable thumbnails of any size you want to.
If you need additional thumbnails - please get in touch with our technical support [email protected] and we will solve that for you.

3. manage videocontent

No problem at all. It needs to have screenshots. Otherwise, it will have one basic thumbnails for all video sets.

4. scheduled update for 100 or more updates in schedule list.

you may have unlimited scheduled content or other rotation running. Version 3.5 will have inmproved interface to manage scheduled content rotation.

4 more different rotation algorythms are available now.

5. managing external links for livecams, chats etc. or special HTML-pages (scheduled)

You may manage external links for livecams, chats, etc. or any kind of external HTML-pages. You may have as many categories of external content as you want to.

If current way it's organized is not suitable for you, we can customize it for your special needs.

6. managing news (scheduled)

All news could be scheduled for the years as well.

7. managing update information (scheduled)

Update information is based on the updates itself. So, if you will be running content rotation, you will have updates daily (or as often as you want it to be) and no need to touch your paysite for as long as you want it to.

8. managing personal infobox (webmaster to individual user) scheduled

Currently we have that implemented, but not scheduled. If yuo want, we can make a scheduled messages sent to users for you.

9. managing different sites with different specifications (p.e. picturesize in sites are different).

If these sites can be on the same domain - no problem with that. You may run as many copies of the Adult-Engine as you want per one domain.

If you have more than 5 domains and want to install Adult-Engine on it, we can give you a huge discount. This is what we should discuss.

that means that the CMS must be able to do a central job and upload the result to a specified directory or server.
it alsso must be able to dedect unused content on the specified server or directory and delete it.

It does not upload anything to your server. It's 100% automated and server-based solution.

We can implement unused content notification specially for you if you need that.

Is there anything like that?

Yes, the most features you wanted are there.
I wonder how it could be possible for you not to find us - we are listed everywhere it could be possilble.

Sorry for my english - I hope it was understandable :-)

No problem, I'm not a native English-speaker too =)

We are planning to have multilingual support in the future, so you may contact us and tell preferred support language for you.

Thanks!


thommy [/QUOTE]



With best regards, Mark.

p.s. I'm just answering the questions Thommy asked. I think it's about the topic.

[besterman]

if you plan to make money (and why not?), a custom solution seems the best way to go. I have also done research on this and nothing beats being able to say to someone, I want this database-driven functionality and I want the page to look like this and it will be exactly the way you want it and completely changeable in virtually any possible way.

[Dravyk]

Thommy, want an honest answer? No CMS can do all of that. None currently existing and sold to the general public. Many of those features, as whatshisname said, are slated for his future versions. Likewise many of those features are also slated in Content God's future versions. But again, we're being candid here, and until any of these actually come out from any of us, it's nothing but vaporware -- so I won't start hawking something not there even though others will.

The beauty of programs like Content God are that they would cost you about $15,000 if you went and got it made just for yourself. Except they cost substantially less. If you just wanted a couple of extra features I'd say we can custom that for you, but considering your extensive list, Thommy, I'd suggest you have three options: a) compromise, b) wait until more features are added further down the line, or c) as Scorpion suggested, if you can afford it you need something made from the ground up. Just expect to pay hefty for what you want.

If you are interested in having something built exclusively for you to your specifications, my programming team can handle it, and give you the best price with free lifetime support. Just drop me a line at sales at contentgod dot com.

[adultwebware]

Originally posted by Dravyk
Thommy, want an honest answer? No CMS can do all of that. None currently existing and sold to the general public. Many of those features, as whatshisname said, are slated for his future versions. Likewise many of those features are also slated in Content God's future versions. But again, we're being candid here, and until any of these actually come out from any of us, it's nothing but vaporware -- so I won't start hawking something not there even though others will.

Be honest, your CMS can't do this =) In your shoes I would speak for yourself only. All what I've said is already workable. It worked fine with 60+ our current Clients and will work fine for anybody else.

We never advertise more than we implement. On the opposite - our current website shows less features than our solution already has.


With best regards, Mark.

[besterman]

the real cost of a project like this is not the software but the "integration cost". All cms systems are databases with web-based managers and several feature scripts built around this platform, not expensive at all.

[Dravyk]

Be honest, your CMS can't do this =) In your shoes I would speak for yourself only.

Gee, Mark. I was only saying what you yourself said above. Based on your answers -- and sometimes avoidances to his questions -- it seems yours can NOT do everything he wants either.

Again from your own answers, your program: a) does some of the things he wants, b) avoided the answer, which means it doesn't do that feature, c) you promised in a future version it would, meaning it doesn't do it now, and d) said to a lot of the features asked for that they can be customized. Obviously ANYTHING can be customized for a lot more money. So nope YOURS doesn't HONESTLY do it all either.

Anyway, please stay out of my shoes and my footsteps. They are much too big for you to fit into.

We never advertise more than we implement. On the opposite - our current website shows less features than our solution already has.

Why, you're an absolute marketing genius!

I'll bet there are Fortune 500 companies hammering down your door pleading for you to come run their companies for them!!

[nuclei]

*sigh* I refuse to do anything but chuckle here.

[adultwebware]

haha.. lol!

[PornoDoggy]

No CMS can do all of that.

leads to

Be honest, your CMS can't do this =)

Somebody help me here. "No CMS" would seem to include "our CMS", right? Did I miss someplace where anybody suggested it would?

[nuclei]

Originally posted by adultwebware
haha.. lol!

I was laughing at you.

[jeroman]

Don't anyone see that Tommy is adultwebware ??

Anyway, Adultwebwares solutions is great and YES they
do have all the features they say and more.
If you need a new feature - TELL Them, if it's only you who wnats it, pay some - if it's more than you it there in the next version !!
Only BAD thing is it can't handle multiple sites.

[Tylo]

Content God kicks ass!!

[swedguy]

Looks like the Sandbox UFC season has started.

[damonx]

Originally posted by cutetwink
AdultWebWare I use this on 4+ paysites and love it.

good script
icq contact
fast customization

[adultwebware]

We have finalized a newest multidomain version.

Please visit our website and send a demo request for a multidomain solution.

The sooner you come, the more you can save.

[AmeliaG]

conman is definitely appropriately named software. I can't speak to the merits of the other options, but I can definitely say that our interactions with Q the conman were a total disaster. He took my money, failed to do the install he promised, then admitted that the software does not do what he said he would and PS he is not actually a programmer either.

[oldnewbie]

Originally posted by AmeliaG
conman is definitely appropriately named software. I can't speak to the merits of the other options, but I can definitely say that our interactions with Q the conman were a total disaster. He took my money, failed to do the install he promised, then admitted that the software does not do what he said he would and PS he is not actually a programmer either.

Wow, that's exactly what happened to us. No shit. Well, one difference. We paid to have it installed and it was installed eventually, but it doesn't work and doesn't do what they said it would do. And the guy admitted that part of it never worked. It just happens to be the part we bought it for too.

[AmeliaG]

Originally posted by oldnewbie

Wow, that's exactly what happened to us. No shit. Well, one difference. We paid to have it installed and it was installed eventually, but it doesn't work and doesn't do what they said it would do. And the guy admitted that part of it never worked. It just happens to be the part we bought it for too.

is the right emoticon for that guy. After he promosed me a refund and didn't send it, when I first ICQed him, he couldn't remember which pissed off customer I was, he apparently has so many.

If you paid through PayPal, though, you can get a refund. Apparently, if just a few more people complain about this conman, then everyone who got scammed like this can get a refund on Q's snake oil if they want it.

Here is the complaint URL:
https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/we...&flow=md_buyer

[Jamie]

Originally posted by scorpion3600
the real cost of a project like this is not the software but the "integration cost". All cms systems are databases with web-based managers and several feature scripts built around this platform, not expensive at all.

You also have to take into consideration "mature" code. Buying a stable solution with the bugs worked out is hard to put a $ amount on.

[AmeliaG]

Originally posted by Jamie



You also have to take into consideration "mature" code. Buying a stable solution with the bugs worked out is hard to put a $ amount on.

After the nightmare with being conned by a conman which the salesperson claimed was the originator content management solution and supposedly complete and mature code, we bid out for a custom solution. I don't know if it is true or not, but given that the atomic solutions guy claimed that Content God is totally taken from his code, I didn't really want to give that a try after having a site launch slowed down by the insane misleading "guidance" of the conman guy. We definitely got quite a range of price quotes, but I would rather pay more and work with someone who can make deadlines and not lie about what the software does and then split.

[oldnewbie]

I believe it was Paypal that we used, but it's been over 3 months, and I think you have to complain sooner than that. We figured it was a lost cause, I guess.

At least we didn't pay big money for the software itself, we got it after they went "open source"... we're only out the money we paid for the install. $200.00, "non-refundable". I just hate it when people advertise shit that isn't true!

[AmeliaG]

Originally posted by oldnewbie
I believe it was Paypal that we used, but it's been over 3 months, and I think you have to complain sooner than that. We figured it was a lost cause, I guess.

At least we didn't pay big money for the software itself, we got it after they went "open source"... we're only out the money we paid for the install. $200.00, "non-refundable". I just hate it when people advertise shit that isn't true!

Normally, paypal requires you to complain within 30 days. That is why Q kept promising me a refund until 30 days were up and then he laughed about taking me for the money.

In this case, however, because there is clearly a con going on, if enough people file complaints, then they will all receive refunds, no matter how long ago they purchased.

If you have any trouble with the form, you can phone paypal or hit me up on icq at 337070007.

[oldnewbie]

Thanks for the info! I just forwarded the link to my partner, it was his paypal account the money came from.

By the way, we also did research before having the program installed. Everybody seemed to post glowing reviews on the boards. I don't understand why nobody complained about the fact that major advertised features do not work, nor apparently have they ever worked.

Is it possible that the new "open source" version is different from the old version?

[SicChild]

I'm nearly finished a paysite back-end/content management script similar to the scripts above. My script will be more of a custom solution, it does the galleries, thumbnail generation (2 sizes), creates zips, niches/categories, model pages, search, templated system, auto updates/cycling(?), etc, etc. I'll help you integrate it and also add custom features or whatever else you want.

If you are interested in a more custom solution, contact me and we can talk details/price.

[AM Jeff]

I'm not gonna comment on A-Coman for right now.

[myneid]

FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!