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Three things bothered me 1- he could have told me girl was 30 lbs heavier. 2- He told me shoot was delayed a few days due to bad weather, as I had requested 5 min of outdoor footage.. then I get the scene and theres no outdoor footage. 3- I asked for a solo anal toy set, and there was no anal toys at all. No penetration pics at all. Should I expose him, or just let it go. Lensman if you read this, what do u think. |
The guy fucked up. Demand a refund, or do what it takes to get your money back. Don't let him jerk you around by pretending he's pissed at you, it was his screw-up and he knows it.
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Expose the loser Joe. I was actually poking around their website and would have considered buying from them cuz some stuff looked good but not after this story, wouldn't touch em with juicy's pole.
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hmmm, would probably be a good start for a "Before-After" reality paysite :thumbsup
Seriously: I'd never do business with him again. He didn't even apology,... no, he called you an asshole. What is this? He tries to fuck you... btw.: Joe, I'm the new partner of Verry. I'm finally through all the vids. You have awesome content! Perhaps we'll meet in Vegas next Jan. Greets Lutz |
Joe the Drama Queen?.
I am only going to take a few minutes out of my day to go over this just so that the people can get the facts straight. Normally I don?t post to the boards that often but I will make an exception today just to show the people what a complete and total fraud you are. First off Joe why don?t you stop lying to these people and tell them the truth? 1. I never called you an asshole 2. I handled this entire issue like a professional until you attempted to intimidate & threathen me. 3. If you had handled this issue like a professional instead of like a little child making a bunch of wild accusations we wouldn?t even be discussing this issue. So what is this about Joe? Is this about you trying to bash other content producers to make yourself look good when both you and I know exactly what type of business person that you are?? Don?t forget that I?ve been in this biz a very long time and the reason that I usually don?t do business with you is that your reputation as being unethical and professional precedes you. As an issue of fairness to you I opted to do business with you after that little ?temper tantrum? you had earlier this year with Lykos from Europe Content?.. Is it just me or does it seem like what you are trying to pull now has gotten to be your standard operating procedure for how you run your business? You?re neurotic, paranoid, or most likely both. By your own admission you never even looked at the video footage before you claimed that we were trying to rip you off. I am going to post sections of our ICQ transcript here for all to see: HERE IS THE CONVERSATION BETWEEN JOE AND I REGARDING HIS ORDER (please be sure to pay close attention to what he ordered and what he later claimed that he ordered) Diesel: are you still purchasing hardcore content? we have a few new models that are available and who can not be found anywhere else on the 'net that you might be interested in amacontent: show me pics Diesel: ok.....which e-mail addy should I send them to? amacontent: email to [email protected] Diesel: ok...they are on the way out in 2minutes amacontent: i got em, maybe terri, not interested in other 2 Diesel: ok Diesel: she will be in the studio this week if you?re looking for fresh content amacontent: how much for solo anal scene with pics 20 min video, 5 min outdoor intro, 5 min finger masterbation, 5 min pussy penetration, 5 min anal penetration Diesel: if the entire vid is strictly solo girl then we can go $100 and $150 for non-exclusive and exclusive amacontent: Ok ill give it a shot for $150 exclusive, ill email u my releases to fill out Diesel: ok amacontent: i need 75 jpgs total HERE IS THE MESSAGE THAT I RECEIVED FROM JOE AFTER HE RECEIVED HIS CONTENT (please make note on the unprofessional demeanor and multiple accusations that he made before even viewing all of the content) amacontent: DUDE, WTF is this.. you sent me a FAT chick.. not the skinny young girl u showed me amacontent: and 1 step further, there is not ONE penetration picsture, anal or Pussy. Dude this is not the girl you showed me. Im sending this crap back, im afraid to even look at the video. [Offline Message (9[18:26])] Diesel: this is indeed the same girl and I will e-mail you the photos to prove so if you would like amacontent: dude, please.. then that girl ate a bunch of Twinkies amacontent: there is no way in hell.. girl you showed me was skinny and petite.. this girl is a PIG amacontent: about 30 lbs overweight Diesel: I see this model once every couple of weeks and this is the same girl from the photo and she hasn't gained any weight amacontent: dude, please. to make it worse there was not 1 fucking penetration pic amacontent: no pussy no anal amacontent: that was not the girl u showed me Diesel: I don't recall you make any comments in regards to specific shots that you wanted Diesel: and yes it was the same girl that I sent you the photo of amacontent: what are you fucking nuts.. it was a solo anal toy scene amacontent: WTF shots do you think u need amacontent: never mind. keep the money amacontent: content is garbage Diesel: this affirms my previous feelings about how you do business but now I know for sure Diesel: we delivered exactly what you specified in your order amacontent: yeah .. whatever .. you should be embarrassed to send that to a customer Diesel: now you are making all kinds of complaints Diesel: gee...that's funny...the other company that bought footage of her this week was quite pleased amacontent: COMPLAINTS.. THERE WAS NOT 1 FUCKING PENETRATION PIC amacontent: NOT ONE MUTHER FUCKIN penetration Diesel: did you specify whether you needed penetration photos or not and if so how many did you need? amacontent: what are you insane Diesel: you sent no details in regards to the images Diesel: no I'm not insane.....we sent you exactly what you ordered amacontent: no u didnt.. u showed me a skinny girl amacontent: im gonna dig up that email Diesel: whatever....this is exactly the same bullshit from a couple of months ago and the BS with you and Lykos amacontent: NO WAY IN hell i would order that pig Diesel: don't worry I will e-mail you over the images now amacontent: fuck you man, you scammer Diesel: whatever....we sent you the content you ordered and you have the nerve to call us a scammer amacontent: bullshit you sent me a different girl Diesel: you seem to have a history that is well documented, of this type of behavior Diesel: excuses... Diesel: the pics are on the way Diesel: the pics should be in your inbox at [email protected] amacontent: u are so full of shit...i just looked at the video and 1st of all it was the worst shot vid ive ever seen. Girl has a FUCKING patch on her arm... AND THERES NO ANAL TOYS Diesel: whatever...the only person here that is full of shit is you.....you started complaining about the product before you even looked at it amacontent: I complained there was no anal also amacontent: I paid for a solo anal.. and THERES NO FUCKING ANAL Diesel: you said there was no "anal toys" Diesel: first of all here is your order: "solo anal scene with pics 20 min video, 5 min outdoor intro, 5 min finger masterbation, 5 min pussy penetration, 5 min anal penetration" Diesel: second of all you added in that you needed the 75 pics AFTER you had been quoted the $150 price for the exclusive video but we threw it in anyway Diesel: look in all up in your ICQ history it's all right there Diesel: I don't have time to deal with unprofessional amateurs.....your order was completed to exactly the specifications that you sent us Diesel: as you can clearly see from the images that is the same model and we didn't switch models or any other BS like you are claiming amacontent: 1- theres no outdoor interview 2- theres no anal 3- the girl is a pig.. no makeup. hair not done.. A FUCKIN PATCH ON HER ARM Diesel: I guess you didn't ready your own order....."Your order says 5 Min Outdoor Intro" Diesel: I don't recall anything about an "Interview" Diesel: read it over and get your crap straight or stop whining amacontent: FUCK YOU MAN, im gonna expose your ass Diesel: whatever Diesel: do you honestly think that I am the least bit intimidated by you? Diesel: do you honestly think that anyone really gives a shit what you think Diesel: this is standard operating procedure for you amacontent: the pic labeled terri05.jpg and file000.jpg are different girls Diesel: I saved the e-mails between you and Lykos from Europe Content amacontent: fuck you you thief Diesel: whatever Diesel: feel free to post the pics if you think they are different girls amacontent: kepp the fuckin money Diesel: yes...please expose me for sending you an order that was made EXACTLY to the details that you sent us Diesel: solo anal scene with pics 20 min video, 5 min outdoor intro, 5 min finger masterbation, 5 min pussy penetration, 5 min anal penetration Diesel: there is your order Diesel: the content shipped to you was shot to those specifications Diesel: "i need 75 jpgs total" amacontent: yeah, wheres the anal, wheres the outdoor amacontent: this was anal toy shoot scumbag Diesel: that was the order as you delivered it via ICQ Diesel: I'm not going to bother getting into a name calling match over $75 with a loser like you Diesel: you NEVER at any time REQUESTED or ORDERED an anal toy shoot amacontent: no but im gonna make sure people know how how treat customers Diesel: as a matter of fact you NEVER REQUESTED the use of ANY toys Diesel: whatever Diesel: didn't you start this conversation in a hostile manner? Diesel: you NEVER at any time approached this situation like a businessman or a gentleman Diesel: call me names.....threaten to "expose" me and then you want to complain about how I treat customers? Diesel: WTF....This entire transcript will be available to anyone who would like to view it Diesel: it covers your entire order and everything that was discussed since I first talked to you about this order Diesel: stop making all of these ridiculous claims and grow up to be a professional because that BS is not going to fly with me amacontent: read this moron Link: http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...hreadid=172666 Anyway....I am going to get back on with my day and just for the record after this I am NOT going to refund your money simply because you just can't be trusted....You lied to all of these people and since you have the tape as well as the ID's and releases filled out on your company paperwork I most certainly couldn't trust you not to sell the footage. 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Ok lets recap... you show a misleading pic to amacontent... A pic where, because of the angle, etc... makes the girl look like she's skinny... and you are giving shit because he is unhappy? That is shaddy!
Its like someone selling a table on eBay... with big scratches on it... but because of the lighting, it doesnt show on the photo... The client is then unhappy... and you tell him..wtf... this is the same table you saw on the photo!! |
Diesel: she will be in the studio this week if you?re looking for fresh content
amacontent: how much for solo anal scene with pics 20 min video, 5 min outdoor intro, 5 min finger masterbation, 5 min pussy penetration, 5 min anal penetration Diesel: if the entire vid is strictly solo girl then we can go $100 and $150 for non-exclusive and exclusive OK Cybernet Digital since youve made a fool of yourself now.. First of all most agreed whore is 30lbs heavier.. Second the bitch looks like she came from a constrcution site..not an ounce of makeup, hair all fucked up.. A GOD DAM PATCH on her arm during a shoot. SHE DIDNT EVEN SHOW HER FUCKING TITS 3rd, there was not 1 fucking penetration picture 4th - you forget to show the part where this was a solo toy shoot you dipshit. I showed a few guys your quality of work.. you amateur. Im pretty impressed you know how to save, cut, copy and paste an ICQ conversation, now if you can only produce a decent photo set and show clients what the model you intend on shooting .. WHAT SHE ACTUALLY LOOKS LIKE.. then maybe you can make 5 bucks Anyone wants to look at this rediculous set he gave me: http://www.amacontent.com/pics/terri.zip I should have known better to know you get what yopu pay for. Anyone need a paperweight, I have a cd and mini dv here |
from reading the ICQ logs it looks to me like he specified EXACTLY what he wanted. I see where you keep telling him he didnt give you specifics but yet he did, very specific details at that. I really couldnt care less casue I have never done business with either of you but you really should have read over the logs first to make sure they go along with what you say. You pretty much just proved amacontent to be telling the truth...lololol
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this is unbelievable..........you posted an ICQ conversation that proves Joe is in the right. He mentioned exactly the girl he wanted off pictures YOU sent him(before she gained half of Texas), he also spelled out exactly the sexual content he wanted. You agreed. i'm too busy right now to read the whole thing but i don't have to read the rest - you sent him NOTHING close to what you sold him on. |
id hit it from the back and front but not mercenary.
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Damn! Maybe she should start smoking again...
There's no way a content producer wouldn't have noticed the weight gain. Yes, there's good/bad angles but her face is so much heavier in the second shot despite being farther away from the camera. |
We never sent Joe what I would consider to be a misleading photo of the model...I sent Joe a single image of 3 or 4 models to choose from fro some custom content that was available at discounted prices. He at no time ever asked to see additional photos of the model who he ordered the video of or any other model. He never asked to see a single nude image of this model or even requested her height, weight, and measurements.
There is nothing misleading here, there was no switching of models and she most certainly didn't gain 30lbs in 2 weeks. For those of you making comments without fully reading the post: Joe flat out lied about what he ordered and the specifics of the order that he made...That is what the issue is about. He claimed he ordered an solo anal video with the model using toys which he did not... He claimed that he ordered a video with an outdoor interview which he did not... He has made claims that you can obviously see from the transcript above were not the case and as I told Joe if he had approached this issue in a professional manner the outcome would have been different but he chose not to and it is the fact that he even lied about many of the details in regards to this order that made me decide to dismiss this issue altogether. I've been a photograher for over 15 years and what I do know is that I have seen many pictures of monay different models who always did not look 100% the same in every set depending on what they were or were not wearing, how their hair was styled, lighting and many other factors. If Joe was unhappy he could of simply called me up like a professional and we could have handled this but instead he sent me a bunch of threats and insults.... If that is how he handles himself as a professional then I am going to simply leave this matter as it stands. I am pretty much done commenting on this matter since it really isn't even worth discussing over $75 dollars. What are you 12 years old or something Joe??? You're running around on a board calling me names and all kinds of BS when you should have simply picked up the phone and handled this like a man before you went off ranting and raving. Joe has a history of this behavior and anyone who has questions on that should simply run a search on this board to see for themselves. Diesel www.CyberNetDigital.com |
Hey joe,
I have a set for you... http://www.allstarz.org/yasmine/a.jpg Heres the content http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphic.../bleethmug.jpg |
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you DESERVE to be exposed with this kind of fat ugly whore
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Dude I just got some serious personal ad flashbacks.
Can't tell you how many chicks would post a pic like that first one in their ad and then you meet them and they look like the 2nd one. That's fucked up |
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amacontent: dude, please.. then that girl ate a bunch of Twinkies
amacontent: there is no way in hell.. girl you showed me was skinny and petite.. this girl is a PIG :1orglaugh :1orglaugh and FLESH, Joe is totally right, I told him the exact same thing yesterday when I checked the set, he was ripped off, false representation... The girl is the same girl but indeed she ate I don't know how much twinkies, and PLUS there's no penetration pics like Joe said... I went through the whole set, and there's none. before-after ... sigh |
Very deceiptive photo..... She went from being regular content to "light BBW".... and should be represented properly. :2 cents:
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OFFICIAL GFY VERDICT:
Judge finds in favor of Joe. The chick obviously gained a lot of weight (those of you saying 30 pounds are being very nice, probably because you think she might read these boards), very possibly 45 pounds of fat. It's the same girl, to be sure, but she looks pretty disgusting now. Plus, the ICQ logs clearly support Joe's contention. -- The Honorable Mark "Buff" Mateo, Official GFY Arbiter (My will be so) |
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but Would love to see the pic of the girl you send in the email and then one from the content you shot and send ! |
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see this one is much better than that other shit....she actually is smiling and acting like she'd enjoy a good dildo session.... other one is like 'uhm, take my picture and gimme my bonbon money ya perv...' any good business should refund a NONsatisfied customer... hell even major retail chains will often take shit back without a receipt if you 'say' you bought something there, why? cuz bad press is BAD in this regard... I rarely ever say that 'bad' press is bad, but when buying clothes, food or content, I'd have to say YES it's bad... for everyone else it's just free publicity ;) |
Thats a deal breaker.:feels-hot
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I think it's the same girl, just a few years in between pictures.
So technically he did have her in the studio. But I guess you best be more careful who you deal with. |
End of story..more important matters to deal with. It was a rather inexpensive lesson not to deal with that schmuk.
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Hmm...If there was no penetration, then it's all wrong.
The outdoor part wasn't specified as interview. It was just specified as intro. So this was okay. The chick was selected by AMA without seeing any other pics of her. So it's his own fault for not getting other angles of her. But he did clearly order penetration. "amacontent: how much for solo anal scene with pics 20 min video, 5 min outdoor intro, 5 min finger masterbation, 5 min pussy penetration, 5 min anal penetration" If there's no penetration, it's wrong and should be refunded. *shrugs* *BANGS GAVEL!!!!!* Always wanted to do that. |
Like I told you via ICQ Joe....
Calling me names and acting like a 12 year old most certainly didn't make me feel like going to extra mile in the customer service department. Trying acting like a professional next time and you might get treated with one. CASE CLOSED DIESEL www.CyberNetDigital.com |
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You know, reading the ICQ log makes it apparent that Joe was approached with three models to choose from. I wonder if it wouldn't have made any difference which one he chose. I mean, this smells like a setup to me.
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I think the lesson you learnt was if the guy was any good he would not be doing it for $75 to $150. Try and get Mutt or me for that price and you will find out what good guys charge. Hell Mutt has to pay the girls $150 for a video. You pay peanutes expect monkies to turn up. This guy is desperate for the business because in 15 years a photographer he still has managed to maintain that "Just picked up a camera" style. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh |
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But honestly, buying an exclusive video based on one pic seems stupid to me. And I already said the lack of penetration means Joe should get his money back. *shrugs* This is really why I think the guy who shot the stuff is wrong. It was clearly asked for and he says it was never specified. |
There's no outdoor footage at all, or not outdoor interview?
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