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baddog 09-11-2003 04:01 AM

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Originally posted by AlienQ
Here ya go.
Its just a couple but there are a few other violations as well.
I leave it to you to learn the rest.

Geneva Convention Violation.

Educate yourself.

oh, well that changes everything. If it is on the Internet it must be true.

Well, at least with this level of intelligence you probably do not show up at the polling place until a week after the election if at all.

baddog 09-11-2003 04:03 AM

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Originally posted by AlienQ
Facts are facts.

Accept them if ya can, however most choose not to see how things really are.
It is easier to accept the spoon fed picture.

you don't have any idea how much it pains me to agree with bringer, but damn you are scary.

bringer 09-11-2003 04:05 AM

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Originally posted by baddog


oh jeez, please don't tell me you are from CA, and obviously you have no idea of what you are talking about if you don't think that Reagan tripled our National debt (at least)

sorry, i was 4 when he got out of office. all i know is what i read and from that ive learned he increased spending on defense and built the military to what it is today. in all my years in school, there was no mention of him tripling the national debt.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/rr40.html

"In 1986 Reagan obtained an overhaul of the income tax code, which eliminated many deductions and exempted millions of people with low incomes. At the end of his administration, the Nation was enjoying its longest recorded period of peacetime prosperity without recession or depression."

bringer 09-11-2003 04:07 AM

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Originally posted by baddog


you don't have any idea how much it pains me to agree with bringer, but damn you are scary.

dont worry, soon ill have complete mindcontrol over you and you will become one of my minions :1orglaugh

ADL Colin 09-11-2003 04:07 AM

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Originally posted by bringer


reagan didnt triple the national debt

Very close to tripling.

Also, the debt as a percentage of GDP increased from 33% when Reagan took office to 50% when he left. When Bush left it was 64%. When Clinton left it was 58%. Right now, it's about 60%.

bringer 09-11-2003 04:09 AM

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Originally posted by Colin


Very close to tripling.

Also, the debt as a percentage of GDP increased from 33% when Reagan took office to 50% when he left. When Bush left it was 64%. When Clinton left it was 58%. Right now, it's about 60%.

very interesting, ill try and remember that

baddog 09-11-2003 04:15 AM

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Originally posted by bringer


sorry, i was 4 when he got out of office. all i know is what i read and from that ive learned he increased spending on defense and built the military to what it is today. in all my years in school, there was no mention of him tripling the national debt.

I think you made an earlier comment about "just because its posted on democrats.com doesnt make it fact." The same thing applies to whitehouse.gov

It is called propaganda. I am sure if you looked at the site when Clinton was president it said something dofferent.

and while Alienq is equally as disturbing as you are, Clinton was the best president we have had in many, many years.

Reagan was the only reaon why most people even understood what the word trillion meant. As I recall, we had a 4 trillion dollar deficit by the time we got rid of him

baddog 09-11-2003 04:17 AM

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Originally posted by bringer


dont worry, soon ill have complete mindcontrol over you and you will become one of my minions :1orglaugh

I will take a bullet to the brain before that happens, trust me

ADL Colin 09-11-2003 04:18 AM

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Originally posted by bringer


very interesting, ill try and remember that

A few of my bookmarks:

US debt: http://www.publicdebt.treas.gov/opd/opdpenny.htm

Great site for GDP data.
http://www.bea.gov/bea/dn/nipaweb/Ta...=2003&Freq=Qtr

For example, Look up 1945 on both pages.
Debt 258.7 billion
GDP 223.0 billion

So you can see the debt/gdp ratio was actually higher in 1945 than it is today (It ballooned from pre-war figure of about 43% to greater than 100% by end of war )

In 1950, it was still 87%.

bringer 09-11-2003 04:20 AM

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Originally posted by baddog

... Clinton was the best president we have had in many, many years.

:1orglaugh
clinton was a joke who got lucky with the internet boom
i could careless about the whole bj bullshit, but his policy was idiotic.

ADL Colin 09-11-2003 04:22 AM

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Originally posted by bringer


:1orglaugh
clinton was a joke who got lucky with the internet boom
i could careless about the whole bj bullshit, but his policy was idiotic.

What about his economic policy did you disagree with?

baddog 09-11-2003 04:26 AM

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Originally posted by bringer


:1orglaugh
clinton was a joke who got lucky with the internet boom
i could careless about the whole bj bullshit, but his policy was idiotic.

what policy was idiotic?

bringer 09-11-2003 04:36 AM

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Originally posted by baddog


what policy was idiotic?

his foreign policy?

bringer 09-11-2003 04:39 AM

im going to bed, we can continue tommorro once my mind is clear.

ADL Colin 09-11-2003 04:43 AM

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Originally posted by bringer


his foreign policy?

Ahhh. I thought you meant economic.

I would think conservatives would have liked Clinton's foreign policy. Bosnia, Haiti, bombing of Iraq. Reminiscent of Reagan's limited operations (Libya, Grenada, and Lebanon).

baddog 09-11-2003 04:51 AM

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Originally posted by Colin


Ahhh. I thought you meant economic.

I would think conservatives would have liked Clinton's foreign policy. Bosnia, Haiti, bombing of Iraq. Reminiscent of Reagan's limited operations (Libya, Grenada, and Lebanon).

hey, we have to test new technologies somewhere, and Canada is too close.

baddog 09-11-2003 04:53 AM

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Originally posted by bringer


his foreign policy?

what about his foreign policy? no matter what position we take someone isn't going to be happy.

the question you have to ask is are you better off now than you were before he took office, and when he was president, we were better off than when Bush was pres.

baddog 09-11-2003 04:54 AM

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Originally posted by bringer
im going to bed, we can continue tommorro once my mind is clear.
will be interesting to see if it helps :winkwink:

ADL Colin 09-11-2003 05:17 AM

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Originally posted by baddog


the question you have to ask is are you better off now than you were before he took office, and when he was president, we were better off than when Bush was pres.

Not surprisingly, people are pretty split.

CNN/USA Today/Gallup Poll. June 9-10, 2003. N=1,029 adults nationwide. .

"Do you think the country was better off with Bill Clinton as president, or is better off with George W. Bush as president?" Options were rotated

Clinton 46%
Bush 49%
No Opinion 5%

slapass 09-11-2003 05:28 AM

Yes Reagan did, look it up. And yes there was a surplus under Clinton for almost every one of his 8 years. Clinton inherited a fucking mess if you look back to 1992. Look at some stats on national debt, you can even go back further and see who increased it.


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Originally posted by bringer


i dont know where you got your info, but its complete wrong. reagan didnt triple the national debt, and clinton didnt run a surpluse. clinton came into office and took credit for something that started long before he was elected. clinton is a fucktard just like davis. come to california and tell people that democrats dont spend. davis turned our surpluse into a 40bil debt. last i checked davis had the D next to his name. :1orglaugh


KRL 09-11-2003 05:33 AM

Yeh ok, and who do you replace him with? Oh forgot we got the terminator now. Yeh that's the ticket.


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