Acacia sounds like they know there shit - GoFuckYourself.com

Matt_WildCash · 09-04-2003, 11:56 PM

"Although Acacia was an early investor in the company that developed the DMT patents, we didn't purchase majority control of the company until the end of 2001. Before licensing the patents, we spent an enormous amount of time and money doing due diligence on the patents. Three prominent law firms that specialize in intellectual property reviewed the patents. We hired professional search firms to perform prior art and literature searches in the U.S., Europe and Asia. We consulted with experts in the field including college professors and PhDs. We even hired patent buster groups who specialize in invalidating patents. All of the conclusions were that our DMT patents are valid and enforceable. "

http://ynotnews.ynotmasters.com/issu...403/page2.html

This interview with Aracia does sound bad, if they are not lieing and they have done all this research before buying up large chunks of companies and looked into prior art and all that. Doesn't sound great. Is this scare tactics or do we really believe they did all this research??

Chris · 09-04-2003, 11:57 PM

yeah head over the post acacia up 65% today .. wish i invested

Kevin2 · 09-05-2003, 12:06 AM

Well I wouldn't expect them to announce something like this.....

"We didn't consult with experts in the field but we did talke to a college professor having lunch at Mc D's. We even hired patent buster groups who specialize in invalidating patents but have never had any success in defending one yet. All of the conclusions were that our DMT patents are valid and enforceable."

Fluid of Fuck Me · 09-05-2003, 12:12 AM

Hey now..
I'm sure they went all out..
and decided to take the crap shoot in court. After all, it's the investors that get shafted if they lose, not them personally, and management can always blame the lawyers.

stevet · 09-05-2003, 01:21 AM

If I dont hear Bermans fucking name again, itll be too soon.

Mishi · 09-05-2003, 03:25 AM

Of course they "sound" like they know what they're talking about - they're a bunch of lawyers! It's what they do. (This is, of course, my opinion. I am not a lawyer. Nor am I a doctor, a faerie of the North Woods, or a Bible scholar.)

Are they right? Are they wrong? I don't know. What I do know for a fact is that 98.76% of all statistics are completely made up. *

(* I don't ACTUALLY know that either. That was a joke. Granted, a lame joke, but a joke, nonetheless. Just trying to C my A.)

SGS · 09-05-2003, 03:34 AM

I am sure that the important decisions will be made by those who were born before the telephone was invented and have no idea what a mouse mat even looks like.

Scootermuze · 09-05-2003, 03:38 AM

They did all that and still had to appeal the v-chip ruling due to losing that little battle..

So much for their efforts ...

icedemon · 09-05-2003, 08:21 AM

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Originally posted by Scootermuze
They did all that and still had to appeal the v-chip ruling due to losing that little battle..

So much for their efforts ...

I was going to say the same thing. They thought the same thing about the v-chip patent they had and that got shot down. They were talking about how confident they were with the v-chip patent and that they would win. They are lawyers that act like some of the scummy used car salemen that I have dealt with in the past. They are only going to sell you on how much the patent is valid and that you need to signup for it now before it's too late. That doesn't mean they actually believe their own hype (which is all it is "Hype"). IMPAI thinks thinks they will win and ACACIA think they are going to win. Until the judge says something ACACIA has the upper hand for now (and unless IMPAI wins, ACACIA will have the upper hand after the judge says something also).

FATPad · 09-05-2003, 08:33 AM

Their plan is to get as much licensing money as easily as possible before they lose, just like the v-chip. They've continually stated that they don't know why people are fighting when it's cheaper just to settle. Despite a summary judgement against them, they also stated they won the V-Chip case. When asked how, the first thing they answered was "We got $26M in licensing fees".

But their plan wouldn't work at all if they said, "We have no idea what's up, but we want you to pay us. Not sure if you really have to, though."

LadyMischief · 09-05-2003, 08:35 AM

Heh, that's why last quarter their earnings were $75,000 and their expenditures were $5 million. They are on a losing path.

rooster · 09-05-2003, 08:38 AM

thats exactly right, they are just making as much money as they can till they lose down the road.

These guys are just like hired gun defense attornies. They could tell you the sun is green in a convincing way. Its all just spin and bullshit.

FightThisPatent · 09-05-2003, 09:39 AM

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Originally posted by Driven

Is this scare tactics or do we really believe they did all this research??

I don't think they looked in the right places... prior art is out there... so is the truth...

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Fluid of Fuck Me · 09-05-2003, 09:58 AM

Of course they didn't do the research.
Wasn't nasa broadcasting compressed video from the space capsules 30 yrs ago?
Cable companies, that guy who invented the video phone, et et.

I haven't seen tonne of what they filed for a patent, but it seems like they ignored the previous ones from what little I have seen.

For some stupid reason I can't get their patent # to appear in the online database I use.

Far-L · 09-05-2003, 10:48 AM

Acacia is not invincible. Nor are they all knowing.

They lost on a SUMMARY JUDGEMENT on the v-chip case yet they still act as though they won.

They sure can muster a lot of bluster though for losing so big on that v-chip.

goBigtime · 09-05-2003, 11:24 AM

www.impai.org appears to be down...

maybe you guys are putting the real (informative) site up now?

JMM · 09-05-2003, 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by goBigtime
www.impai.org appears to be down...

maybe you guys are putting the real (informative) site up now?

DNS...will be up shortly.

FightThisPatent · 09-05-2003, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by goBigtime
www.impai.org appears to be down...

maybe you guys are putting the real (informative) site up now?

what, my site not good 'nuff for you???

jimmyf · 09-05-2003, 12:08 PM

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Originally posted by Fluid of Fuck Me
Hey now..
I'm sure they went all out..
and decided to take the crap shoot in court. After all, it's the investors that get shafted if they lose, not them personally, and management can always blame the lawyers.

I thought management was the lawyers. AssClowns

09-04-2003, 11:56 PM	#1
Matt_WildCash Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,699	Acacia sounds like they know there shit "Although Acacia was an early investor in the company that developed the DMT patents, we didn't purchase majority control of the company until the end of 2001. Before licensing the patents, we spent an enormous amount of time and money doing due diligence on the patents. Three prominent law firms that specialize in intellectual property reviewed the patents. We hired professional search firms to perform prior art and literature searches in the U.S., Europe and Asia. We consulted with experts in the field including college professors and PhDs. We even hired patent buster groups who specialize in invalidating patents. All of the conclusions were that our DMT patents are valid and enforceable. " http://ynotnews.ynotmasters.com/issu...403/page2.html This interview with Aracia does sound bad, if they are not lieing and they have done all this research before buying up large chunks of companies and looked into prior art and all that. Doesn't sound great. Is this scare tactics or do we really believe they did all this research??

09-04-2003, 11:57 PM	#2
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09-05-2003, 12:06 AM	#3
Kevin2 Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 1,429	Well I wouldn't expect them to announce something like this..... "We didn't consult with experts in the field but we did talke to a college professor having lunch at Mc D's. We even hired patent buster groups who specialize in invalidating patents but have never had any success in defending one yet. All of the conclusions were that our DMT patents are valid and enforceable." __________________ Webmasters Trade Traffic!!!

09-05-2003, 03:25 AM	#6
Mishi Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1,054	Of course they "sound" like they know what they're talking about - they're a bunch of lawyers! It's what they do. (This is, of course, my opinion. I am not a lawyer. Nor am I a doctor, a faerie of the North Woods, or a Bible scholar.) Are they right? Are they wrong? I don't know. What I do know for a fact is that 98.76% of all statistics are completely made up. * (* I don't ACTUALLY know that either. That was a joke. Granted, a lame joke, but a joke, nonetheless. Just trying to C my A.) __________________ Looking for PHP/MySQL solutions? Check out Cyboriginal - custom scripts, installation services and more.

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SGS Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mallorca - Nottingham Posts: 5,176	I am sure that the important decisions will be made by those who were born before the telephone was invented and have no idea what a mouse mat even looks like. __________________ See sig...

09-05-2003, 12:12 AM	#4
Fluid of Fuck Me Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 373	Hey now.. I'm sure they went all out.. and decided to take the crap shoot in court. After all, it's the investors that get shafted if they lose, not them personally, and management can always blame the lawyers.

09-05-2003, 01:21 AM	#5
stevet Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Mexic....errr Los Angeles Posts: 172	If I dont hear Bermans fucking name again, itll be too soon.

09-05-2003, 03:38 AM	#8
Scootermuze Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 4,513	They did all that and still had to appeal the v-chip ruling due to losing that little battle.. So much for their efforts ...

09-05-2003, 08:33 AM	#10
FATPad Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 6,693	Their plan is to get as much licensing money as easily as possible before they lose, just like the v-chip. They've continually stated that they don't know why people are fighting when it's cheaper just to settle. Despite a summary judgement against them, they also stated they won the V-Chip case. When asked how, the first thing they answered was "We got $26M in licensing fees". But their plan wouldn't work at all if they said, "We have no idea what's up, but we want you to pay us. Not sure if you really have to, though." __________________ <a href="http://www.adultcontent.co.uk">Adult Content UK - Great British Content</a>

09-05-2003, 08:35 AM	#11
LadyMischief Orgasms N Such! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Oakville, Ontario Posts: 18,135	Heh, that's why last quarter their earnings were $75,000 and their expenditures were $5 million. They are on a losing path. __________________ ICQ 3522039 Content Manager - orgasm.com [email protected]

09-05-2003, 08:38 AM	#12
rooster Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,384	thats exactly right, they are just making as much money as they can till they lose down the road. These guys are just like hired gun defense attornies. They could tell you the sun is green in a convincing way. Its all just spin and bullshit.

09-05-2003, 09:58 AM	#14
Fluid of Fuck Me Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 373	Of course they didn't do the research. Wasn't nasa broadcasting compressed video from the space capsules 30 yrs ago? Cable companies, that guy who invented the video phone, et et. I haven't seen tonne of what they filed for a patent, but it seems like they ignored the previous ones from what little I have seen. For some stupid reason I can't get their patent # to appear in the online database I use.

09-05-2003, 10:48 AM	#15
Far-L Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 6,065	Acacia is not invincible. Nor are they all knowing. They lost on a SUMMARY JUDGEMENT on the v-chip case yet they still act as though they won. They sure can muster a lot of bluster though for losing so big on that v-chip. __________________ HomegrownCash.com, the affiliate program of Homegrown Video - The Largest Collection of Amateur XXX - Est. 1982. Contact - Email: farrell AT homegrownvideo D com Skype: hgfarl Newsweek Magazine - "Homegrown Video, the longest running series in the history of porn."

09-05-2003, 11:24 AM	#16
goBigtime Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 7,761	www.impai.org appears to be down... maybe you guys are putting the real (informative) site up now?