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BlueDesignStudios 09-03-2003 06:13 PM

Why - you raise some good points - let me answer them for you:

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Originally posted by Why

prices are same as they are on blue designs site, so cut out the middle man and go straight to the source.

Some prices are the same, some are less - but keep in mind with the turnkeys, you're getting content, domain, a pre built site, everything all in one package!

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blue design does look a lot like webinc, but i would prefer thier work to webinc.s partially because todd can be a dick sometimes, and they make some of the girls in thier designs look just a little bit to fake.

Thanks for the compliments about our site designs, appreciated :)

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the prices fucking SUCK. if its a blow out it should be a REALLY good deal. like you sold brads content for something like 75% off. so do the same with the design, or like i said in first sentence ill go straight to the source and broker my own deal with the source.

Prices - you raise valid points - some previous offers J$tyle$ included 95% off content! And with his 75% off Brad Shaw's content, that too is impressive.
But, you have to realise the big difference between content and designs. Content has minimal marginal costs. Once you've made the content, distributing more copies makes the content cheaper for everyone.
Design involves the use of labour - quality tours & designs do take time, there is no way this can be done at the same discounts J$tyle$ can offer on the content. Yes designs can be done cheaper, but not at this quality, and not in an awesome turnkey package like this either with content, domains, members, banners & all!
The turnkeys are sold via Jonathan, he is not a middle man, we are partners in this venture. You have all seen the great deals Jonathan has come up with for content, now he's combining use of that great content, with our design talents, to produce quality turnkey packages. These specials are available only through Jonthan, and purchasing the additional promo packs is also Jonathan's domain.

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and shit man, you already sold 3 of them, (if that deal did indeed go through) so you need to have a few more then that on thier or they will all be gone in a matter of days.
i do like the idea of turnkeys though because it cuts out the process of getting a domain and the wait for a design company to finish thier end of the work.


You are correct about turnkeys, all that work has been taken care of. With these sites, it's been us & Jonathan doing all the work & organizing, and it's so easy to buy a complete tour package, saving yourselves time & money, and getting some real quality prodcuts at discounted prices.

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define members area template? do all members areas look the same? how can you make a template? and with all the chargeback shit going around. i think maybe template "looking" members areas are a bad idea in the respect that who wants all thier members areas to look the same??

Members are templates follow one of a few standard looks - if something different is required, this too can be arranged, talk to Jonthan :)

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not looking ot make enemies, just callin em as i see em, just like gothweb.

And I've always respected your posts too :)

Donny 09-03-2003 06:14 PM

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Originally posted by J$tyle$


You are entitled to be WRONG just like the others Donovan!

LOL

... and you know I like you, dude - hater or not!

Never will be a J$tyle$ hater. You know that.

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I think it makes perfect sense ....

Webmasters that buy content usually need design work too, and visa versa!

Turnkey sites that LOOK like OURS are a no brainer for "programs" that want to add a niche quickly!

See, that's the part that makes no sense.... turnkey sites. What makes you think those will convert? Surfers are SO underestimated in this business.

They don't like "turnkey".

J$tyle$ 09-03-2003 06:31 PM

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Originally posted by DonovanPhillips


See, that's the part that makes no sense.... turnkey sites. What makes you think those will convert? Surfers are SO underestimated in this business.

They don't like "turnkey".

LOL

No, IT MAKES SENSE- you just don't understand why :winkwink:

... and what makes you think they won't convert?

Wade and Andrew have been building sites for some of the largest affiliate programs on the web for 3 years!

That is a FACT, and a testament to the fact their designs CONVERT VERY WELL!

Why else would the most successful companies ... multimillion dollar companies utilize their services, Donovan?

CHECKMATE!

LOL

:)

drunkdollars 09-03-2003 06:39 PM

Amazing what you can come up with now your not drinking ;)

theharvman 09-03-2003 06:40 PM

The quality of the sites designs are what the real deal is here. From a marketing stand point using the word ?Blowout? was done simply to maintain consistency with the brand name and was a smart move.

Since price has NEVER dictated what conversion ratios turned out to be, I really do not see what everyone is making a big deal about? Bottom line is that if the sites he is selling converts for you who cares what the company is called.:2 cents:

Good Luck with this J. I think you have a winner.:thumbsup

Wade 09-03-2003 06:43 PM

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Originally posted by DonovanPhillips


See, that's the part that makes no sense.... turnkey sites. What makes you think those will convert? Surfers are SO underestimated in this business.

They don't like "turnkey".

Surfers will never know the site was turnkey. These sites are all built individually and are all unique.

These sites will convert, Blue Design Studios does not just design sites, we started 7yrs ago doing traffic and still do it now. We know what converts and we send traffic to many of the tours we design. I wouldnt send traffic to them if they didnt convert.

Wade 09-03-2003 06:46 PM

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Originally posted by theharvman
The quality of the sites designs are what the real deal is here. From a marketing stand point using the word ?Blowout? was done simply to maintain consistency with the brand name and was a smart move.

Since price has NEVER dictated what conversion ratios turned out to be, I really do not see what everyone is making a big deal about? Bottom line is that if the sites he is selling converts for you who cares what the company is called.:2 cents:

Good Luck with this J. I think you have a winner.:thumbsup

You summed it all up perfectly!

J$tyle$ 09-03-2003 07:00 PM

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Originally posted by drunkdollars
Amazing what you can come up with now your not drinking ;)
That was a funny thread last night!

Those guys had NO CLUE!

LOL

GregP 09-03-2003 07:59 PM

Thanks Jonathan pleasure doing business with you. These designs are going to convert awesome for us.
I look forward to doing much more business with you in the future.

sherie 09-03-2003 08:14 PM

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Originally posted by TurboAngel




$1.65 for regular here in NJ



:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Were not talkin' hooka's mm'k ;)

:thumbsup Good luck J....

"Blow out deal" people...quality, not quantity =)

GregP 09-03-2003 08:16 PM

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Originally posted by sherie
Were not talkin' hooka's mm'k ;)

:thumbsup Good luck J....

"Blow out deal" people...quality, not quantity =)

I agree with Sherie :winkwink:

Donny 09-03-2003 08:21 PM

BUMP!

I still think the idea is a shitty one.

Surfers already complain that adult sites have the same old content, same old look, etc.

How does buying a canned design with nothing but licensed content improve this?

I know it will probably help Visa make their chargeback case, so at least it's doing SOMEONE good.

:winkwink:

Party on!

J$tyle$ 09-03-2003 09:24 PM

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Originally posted by GregP
Thanks Jonathan pleasure doing business with you. These designs are going to convert awesome for us.
I look forward to doing much more business with you in the future.

Hey Greg!

Likewise dude, likewise :)

Any webmasters out there that don't know about Sexpromote.com or Greg's super SLICK new program Slickcash.com better check that shit out ASAP!

:thumbsup

I appreciate the business, and look forward to servicing all of your future design needs!

:)

J$tyle$ 09-03-2003 09:29 PM

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Originally posted by sherie
Were not talkin' hooka's mm'k ;)

:thumbsup Good luck J....

"Blow out deal" people...quality, not quantity =)

You tell 'em, sherie ...

EXCEPTIONAL QUALITY & GREAT PRICES! :)

Thanks for the support!

:thumbsup

J$tyle$ 09-03-2003 09:31 PM

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Originally posted by jimholio



J$tyle$...you have seen the facility Mark would do the deal right now....


HMMMMM

or encoding blowout

I gotta give Sweet T the first crack at it, bro - HE OWNS THE DOMAIN! :winkwink:

You KNOW I'd love to do business with you guys ... and that Data Center IS INCREDIBLE!!!

TheGoldenChild 09-03-2003 11:20 PM

OK I can attest that Wade designs some great shit

Collegefuckfest today our best affiliate was converting 1:123

I attribute that to the great design of collegefuckfest

- big props to Wade and his team.

I even like the hairy man asses he made to put next to that douchebag's face blowing out his content in the banner for content blowout!

:-))

drunkdollars 09-03-2003 11:27 PM

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Originally posted by kBizzle
OK I can attest that Wade designs some great shit

Collegefuckfest today our best affiliate was converting 1:123

I attribute that to the great design of collegefuckfest

- big props to Wade and his team.

I even like the hairy man asses he made to put next to that douchebag's face blowing out his content in the banner for content blowout!

:-))


Give some props to your editor I bet thats got more to do with the conversions than the designer.

J$tyle$ 09-03-2003 11:59 PM

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Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
BUMP!

I still think the idea is a shitty one.

Surfers already complain that adult sites have the same old content, same old look, etc.

How does buying a canned design with nothing but licensed content improve this?

I know it will probably help Visa make their chargeback case, so at least it's doing SOMEONE good.

:winkwink:

Party on!



... and I STILL think it's ok for you to be WRONG :winkwink:

C'mon, Donavan! Surfers are WAY smarter than even YOU give them credit for!

... and it has NOTHING to do with charging back because a site is Turnkey ... the guys that you're referring to ... the ones that join multiple sites ... THEY play the cancel game!

They pay for the trial and CANCEL before they even get inside the members area ... OR 12 seconds after they bust their first nut and still have 2 1/2 days left to jack off!

It's a fuckin' numbers game ... X % are going to stick and convert beyond the trial X % SIMPLY WILL NOT!

What you keep missing is the POINT of OUR DESIGNS .... THE SITES convert ... the surfer has NO IDEA the sites are Turnkey.

AND just for the record ... it's up to the WEBMASTER from that point forward to have an INVENTORY of content that's interesting enough to occupy the ones that they can convince to stay beyond the trial!

OUR DESIGNS CLOSE THE SALE PLAIN AND SIMPLE!!!

WTF does the look and feel of the site tour have to do with VISA?

You're way off the mark!

:)

Donny 09-04-2003 12:15 AM

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Originally posted by J$tyle$




... and I STILL think it's ok for you to be WRONG :winkwink:

C'mon, Donavan! Surfers are WAY smarter than even YOU give them credit for!

... and it has NOTHING to do with charging back because a site is Turnkey ... the guys that you're referring to ... the ones that join multiple sites ... THEY play the cancel game!

They pay for the trial and CANCEL before they even get inside the members area ... OR 12 seconds after they bust their first nut and still have 2 1/2 days left to jack off!

It's a fuckin' numbers game ... X % are going to stick and convert beyond the trial X % SIMPLY WILL NOT!

What you keep missing is the POINT of OUR DESIGNS .... THE SITES convert ... the surfer has NO IDEA the sites are Turnkey.

AND just for the record ... it's up to the WEBMASTER from that point forward to have an INVENTORY of content that's interesting enough to occupy the ones that they can convince to stay beyond the trial!

OUR DESIGNS CLOSE THE SALE PLAIN AND SIMPLE!!!

WTF does the look and feel of the site tour have to do with VISA?

You're way off the mark!

:)

I also think people that give 3 day trials are crazy. I tried that. Didn't work. Make them pay full price or they can't play.

I would personally never join a site that looks like all the other cookie cutter sites out there. My favorite site designs are ATK, FullBush, AuntJudys... sites that are very simple and make a TON of money. Fancy graphics only impress the people that design them, and the people that paid the designers.

J$tyle$ 09-04-2003 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kBizzle
OK I can attest that Wade designs some great shit

Collegefuckfest today our best affiliate was converting 1:123

I attribute that to the great design of collegefuckfest

- big props to Wade and his team.

I even like the hairy man asses he made to put next to that douchebag's face blowing out his content in the banner for content blowout!

:-))

Now we know KB's my friend but facts are facts!

Thanks for the support!

Shit, I sent College Fuck Fest 24 sales the last time we sent traffic ... better than average!

BTW - That "blowout banner" with the hairy man asses was the kicker!

I told them exactly what I wanted and they delivered like the pros they ARE! That banner will be remembered for a long time ... I'm going to miss it when it is retired next week!

:(

LOL


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Originally posted by drunkdollars

Give some props to your editor I bet thats got more to do with the conversions than the designer.

FOR SURE!

Their editors are the bomb, no doubt - but you can't say ABSOLUTELY that the design has less to do with it!

Surfers decide in just a few seconds if they want to stay or go ... the design has EVERYTHING to do with that ... catch them with the design ... keep them with the content!

It's cut and dry like that ... Adult Sites 101

:2 cents:

:winkwink:

Wade 09-04-2003 01:06 AM

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Originally posted by DonovanPhillips


I also think people that give 3 day trials are crazy. I tried that. Didn't work. Make them pay full price or they can't play.

I would personally never join a site that looks like all the other cookie cutter sites out there. My favorite site designs are ATK, FullBush, AuntJudys... sites that are very simple and make a TON of money. Fancy graphics only impress the people that design them, and the people that paid the designers.

Thats funny because I thought they must also impress the 1000's of members who join sites we have designed each and every day! These are well known sites as well, I've never heard of those ones you listed.

prostock 09-04-2003 01:59 AM

man i dont see where this is such a blow out at all , man there are alot of guys doing just as nice if not nicer and less cash ,
just my :2 cents:

J$tyle$ 09-04-2003 03:19 AM

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Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
I also think people that give 3 day trials are crazy. I tried that. Didn't work. Make them pay full price or they can't play.

That's a matter of preference, Donovan. A lot of people believe differently ... and can push heavy volume so the sign ups that fall off from the trials are compensated for BY that volume.

NUMBERS GAME! NUMBERS GAME! NUMBERS GAME!

Click your heals 3 times and say it with me ... IT'S A NUMBERS GAME!

LOL

Programs that do hundreds of signups per day CAN operate at a different capacity than sites that do 20 - 50, and be WAY more prifitable based on that volume. Like I said it's a matter of preference!

Also consider that alot of companies are collecting double opt'in addresses and monetizing THOSE surfers in different ways. Then there's exits as well.

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I would personally never join a site that looks like all the other cookie cutter sites out there. My favorite site designs are ATK, FullBush, AuntJudys... sites that are very simple and make a TON of money. Fancy graphics only impress the people that design them, and the people that paid the designers.

I hear you, but YOU are not Joe Shmoe surfer ... and you are NOT who webmasters are trying to get to join their sites! YOU are a WELL seasoned pornographer and that makes a helluva difference! :)

AGAIN, sites that convert are the goal ... we sell SITES that convert!!!

:winkwink:

scorpy 09-04-2003 06:12 AM

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Originally posted by J$tyle$


LOL

You want prices in that range go to Scorpy http://www.scorpiocreation.com/ it's $350 per site!

No offence or disrepect to Scorpy - his designs are "nice", but you can see the difference between what we offer in terms of quality - and what he offers!

:winkwink:

Well i'm not sure how to take this... but what i see is that some of my designs look much better than some turnkeys you're offering.
Another thing also, when someone comes and gives you a compliment... don't take a dump on that person!

Groove 09-04-2003 06:49 AM

J$tyle$, I've often praised you and I'm a long-term admirer of Blue Designs. But the use of the term "blowout" in relation to this offer is just plain deceptive. :2 cents:

Why 09-04-2003 07:57 AM

jStyles

your fucking sig is HUGE man, tone it down a bit bro.

basschick 09-04-2003 08:04 AM

i agree that what you said about http://www.scorpiocreation.com/ was cold... besides the fact it was a slap at a guy who was supportive of you in this thread, he has done some pretty good stuff for us - not only nice looking but it sells, and that's the bottom line!

milfauditions.com is his with a few changes by me, and xxxblackstars.com is his, as well. thanks, scorpy!

J$tyle$ 09-04-2003 11:17 AM

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Originally posted by scorpy


Well i'm not sure how to take this... but what i see is that some of my designs look much better than some turnkeys you're offering.
Another thing also, when someone comes and gives you a compliment... don't take a dump on that person!

You should have taken it with a grain of salt.

You posted "Nice work :)" to me

... and I'm sure you hoped someone would click your sig to see you design portfolio. Well, I did ... and gave you additional acknowledgement and exposure on this thread.

Like I said, "No offence or disrepect to Scorpy"

What's the problem? Everyone is here "just calling like they see it", and I shouldn't?

Your work is "nice" - that's my opinion. For $350 it's a great deal!

It's also my opinion that our design work is of higher quality! :2 cents:

Next time someone asks for cheaper prices I won't refer them to you, my bad!

Anthony_A 09-04-2003 11:29 AM

J,

DUC was kind and thoughtful enough to give you even more exsposure to his Internet and Film readers. Who knows, maybe some of those film type mavens might get their websites redone now!

http://www.setgo.com/article.html?id...a77391355749f3

:thumbsup

scorpy 09-04-2003 11:35 AM

J$tyle$. Believe me, if i wanted exposures, i would create my own thread :) I was just saying "good work" because i like the style of the sites... i can't take my sig off just to post in some threads and put it back in some others. So it's there whenever i post... good if some people click on it, oh well if they don't.
As far as the who's the best thingy... I'm not gonna go there so let's say your company is :) I am totally content with my clients and don't want to fight and argue about who's making the best quality designs.
I'm sure you'll do great... :)
Steve

Mr. Jim 09-04-2003 11:37 AM

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Originally posted by J$tyle$


I gotta give Sweet T the first crack at it, bro - HE OWNS THE DOMAIN! :winkwink:

You KNOW I'd love to do business with you guys ... and that Data Center IS INCREDIBLE!!!

If Sweet T needs a big pop in L.A. you could broker the deal....we have discussed giving him a call to offer the space if he wants it. In fact I was discussing with Mark and Tony this morning that we should give Tony a call.

If it has legs you know where to find me...shit has been on a roll for you bro...keep the momentum and let me know if we can help out in any way.


just an idea....

cash69 09-04-2003 11:43 AM

i like the fact that you design the sites first then let them buy it..

J$tyle$ 09-04-2003 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Anthony_A
J,

DUC was kind and thoughtful enough to give you even more exsposure to his Internet and Film readers. Who knows, maybe some of those film type mavens might get their websites redone now!

http://www.setgo.com/article.html?id...a77391355749f3

:thumbsup

Yeah, I saw that yesterday ... it's actually hilarious! :)

The capition under the link to my piece is what got my attention:

"Shocking allegations of rape, along with satanic practices, in the darkest reaches of the cyber world."

It was like the old days ... TOTAL BLIND LINK

DUC sure knows how to get attention! That's a FACT!

:winkwink:

J$tyle$ 09-04-2003 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by scorpy
J$tyle$. Believe me, if i wanted exposures, i would create my own thread :) I was just saying "good work" because i like the style of the sites... i can't take my sig off just to post in some threads and put it back in some others. So it's there whenever i post... good if some people click on it, oh well if they don't.
As far as the who's the best thingy... I'm not gonna go there so let's say your company is :) I am totally content with my clients and don't want to fight and argue about who's making the best quality designs.
I'm sure you'll do great... :)
Steve

I have no beef with you, scorpy! :)

You sound like a great guy, and it seems you have a very happy client in basschick!

... and I do appreciate the fact you like our work! :thumbsup

LadyMischief 09-04-2003 12:49 PM

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Originally posted by J$tyle$


I have no beef with you, scorpy! :)

You sound like a great guy, and it seems you have a very happy client in basschick!

... and I do appreciate the fact you like our work! :thumbsup

Yeah Scorpy is a stand up guy.. he's not frivilous if he says he likes something he generally does :) Nice site J$tyles :)

BradShaw 09-04-2003 01:02 PM

$1700 for a turnkey is a blowout. Fresh Photos has sold 100's of turnkeys over the years at $5k a pop, $1700 is cheap!

Dravyk 09-04-2003 01:10 PM

J$tyle$ never puts his name on anything unless it's a definite winner!

Do I hear any "amens"? :)

J$tyle$ 09-04-2003 01:34 PM

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Originally posted by jimholio


If Sweet T needs a big pop in L.A. you could broker the deal....we have discussed giving him a call to offer the space if he wants it. In fact I was discussing with Mark and Tony this morning that we should give Tony a call.

If it has legs you know where to find me...shit has been on a roll for you bro...keep the momentum and let me know if we can help out in any way.


just an idea....

Call him, dude - Sweet T is the BEST!

Totally a class act ... great guy - AWESOME businessman!

Shit has been on a roll FOR SURE!

BTW - Good looking out, Jim! :)

LMK how things go with T, and if YOU need anything you know where to find ME :winkwink:

J$tyle$ 09-04-2003 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cash69
i like the fact that you design the sites first then let them buy it..
Great chatting with you, man!

I'll let you know about upgrading the turnkey tonight!

Looking forward to doing business with you :)

J$tyle$ 09-04-2003 01:39 PM

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Originally posted by LadyMischief


Yeah Scorpy is a stand up guy.. he's not frivilous if he says he likes something he generally does :) Nice site J$tyles :)

Hey Lady :)

I'm sure you're right!

Thanks for the good words

:thumbsup

Electric_Sin 09-04-2003 02:41 PM

I think you have a good idea for webmasters here and the sites look good. The bottom line is that you are making money and some people just hate to see that happen :) Good luck. Hit me up on ICQ if you get a chance.

Donny 09-04-2003 03:52 PM

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Originally posted by Wade


Thats funny because I thought they must also impress the 1000's of members who join sites we have designed each and every day! These are well known sites as well, I've never heard of those ones you listed.

You've never heard of ATK or Karups?

What planet are you from?

J$tyle$ 09-04-2003 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw
$1700 for a turnkey is a blowout. Fresh Photos has sold 100's of turnkeys over the years at $5k a pop, $1700 is cheap!
FUCKIN' A ... I AGREE!

So, the Turnkey sites we have for $1500 are TRULY a GREAT deal! :winkwink:

Quote:

Originally posted by Dravyk

J$tyle$ never puts his name on anything unless it's a definite winner!

Do I hear any "amens"?

Oh, I've had my share of mistakes and losers, DravDawgyDawg!

LOL

BUT ... THIS ONE IS A WINNER!!!

"amen"

:)


Quote:

Originally posted by Electric_Sin

I think you have a good idea for webmasters here and the sites look good. The bottom line is that you are making money and some people just hate to see that happen Good luck. Hit me up on ICQ if you get a chance.

Thank you VERY MUCH!

:thumbsup

I'll be hitting you on ICQ soon!

Wade 09-04-2003 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DonovanPhillips


You've never heard of ATK or Karups?

What planet are you from?

You never mentioned Karups. You said ATK, FullBush, AuntJudys.
I have heard of Karups and I have met the owner. The other 3 sites no I am not familiar with.

J$tyle$ 09-04-2003 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wade


You never mentioned Karups. You said ATK, FullBush, AuntJudys.
I have heard of Karups and I have met the owner. The other 3 sites no I am not familiar with.

I've heard of ATK ... and Karups is HUGE ... but those other 2 don't sound familiar.

What's the point though?

YOU like these sites?

Oy vey

:winkwink:

cash69 09-05-2003 08:45 PM

sites look nice!! i just got www.centerfoldhotties.com i love that design going to have it up live tomorrow

Indeed 09-06-2003 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw
$1700 for a turnkey is a blowout. Fresh Photos has sold 100's of turnkeys over the years at $5k a pop, $1700 is cheap!
:sleep

J$tyle$ 09-06-2003 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cash69
sites look nice!! i just got www.centerfoldhotties.com i love that design going to have it up live tomorrow
Thanks dude!

Wade unlocked the domain from our registrar so everything is going smoothly!

Also, sent you the link to the zip files with the site!

Looking forward to doing more with you!


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