Originally posted by Pornkings
LOL the way I see it.. no matter what we say they will think whatever they want.
LOL the way I see it.. no matter what we say they will think whatever they want.
exactly.
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It's crazy how many times this topic comes up.Originally posted by Kimmykim
Damned if that doesn't sum it nicely.
Thats why I always say get to know who you do biz with . Pic up the phone or meet everyone at the shows.
If someone has an affiliate program for webmasters they should also have the support.
We treat every webmaster the same in our program. big or small
they are all Pornkings...
Hell if you send me traffic and you think I'm shaving call me up anytime. And we can go over your traffic and stats and figure out whats wrong.
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Rog has always been helpful... I remember when I was looking over our exits and had built a custom on to promote PK... when it was not performing that great, Roger took the time to look over it and offer suggestions to help attract more customers. A simple line of text like "Join for $1" helped change things around on that particular exit.Originally posted by Pornkings
It's crazy how many times this topic comes up.
Thats why I always say get to know who you do biz with . Pic up the phone or meet everyone at the shows.
If someone has an affiliate program for webmasters they should also have the support.
We treat every webmaster the same in our program. big or small
they are all Pornkings...
Hell if you send me traffic and you think I'm shaving call me up anytime. And we can go over your traffic and stats and figure out whats wrong.
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Soo true. Everyone needs to ask themselves one thing...Originally posted by The Other Steve
That might be so now but there are some analysts who are suggesting that computer sales and the take-up of internet access in the US may have just about reached its peak.
While the same figures for places outside the US just continue to grow and grow.
Got rice bitch?I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...
Webair, bitches.Comment
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Sometimes its as simple as that.Originally posted by stevecore
Rog has always been helpful... I remember when I was looking over our exits and had built a custom on to promote PK... when it was not performing that great, Roger took the time to look over it and offer suggestions to help attract more customers. A simple line of text like "Join for $1" helped change things around on that particular exit.
Put ($1 for a full month) and I bet it will do even better. LOL
Wording things a certain way helps alot depending on what type of traffic it is. etcPornkings.comComment
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i was having an interesting conversation with a fried of mine on the phone last night about this same topic, is it not illegal to tell someone you will pay them on EVERY join and not do it?
they cancel you for violating thier TOS so they dont have to pay you, but they dont even life up to it....
TIME FOR A CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT! who should we go after first?Comment
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i have been counting my hits out for a very long time, and its amazing how off some sponsors hit counting is
my solution....
divide how many hits you sent to them from your server, by the amount on the check.
whoever is giing you the most per click is worth sending more traffic to. whoever is sending you the least is either shaving harder or thier sites just dont convert.Comment
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And the thread goes on.
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This is exactly why we don't work with sponsors who pay per free trial or $35 per sign up, they have to shave to make money. We stick to sponsors with great rev share programs.Originally posted by OneHungLo
He's right. I discovered this about 4 yrs ago with ARS...i used to have different accounts with them for different tgp's etc..and i began to notice a trend when ever i first signed up for a new account i was averaging 1:100 then after about 2 weeks it would be 1:600 so i would get a new account and it would be back to 1:100.
It was kinda funny to look back at all my accounts i had...the first one i signed up with was at 1:5000 the next 1:1200 the next 1:800 and all the way down the line to the newest one at 1:100
They all do it, they will all deny it, but they all do it. Anyone paying 40 dollars a signup is scamming someone , either it be the surfer or the webmaster... someone's getting fucked
I would rather have 60% 0f a once only $160.00 sign up any day or even a $100.00, $ 60.00 or $25.00 as with Busty 2.com. Or one of the other revshare sponsors we promote.
So far we have never had any reason to suspect any sort of shaving with these guys.
Cindy xx
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Send you traffic to BOYBUCK$
the only thing we shave is . . . . .our boys !
You get paid directly by Ibill/CC Bill
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Um, a 160, 100 or 60 dollar join is just asking for a credit or a cancel, hell I'm not sure the 160 thing even exists, it would never get past IPSP scrub in most cases.Originally posted by Cindyff
I would rather have 60% 0f a once only $160.00 sign up any day or even a $100.00, $ 60.00 or $25.00 as with Busty 2.com. Or one of the other revshare sponsors we promote.
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Test them and see how much % the fuckers shaves.
It's like if you see a lame sponsor like bigplayers.com giving 50$ for a trial you know that a lot of ur signups are going to be shave so don't use them.Comment
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What is the difference in the traffic being sent to the sponsor by the two affiliates? Does the one being shaved hard have better quality traffic?Originally posted by Choker
I'm not gonna name any names so don't ask. But this is what I have discovered the last two weeks since I started selling paysite traffic.
1. Big sponsors shave some affiliates a LOT and others very little.
2. I can send 10k hits to a sponsor with my affialite codes and roughly 90% of the traffic is counted and my average conversion is like 1 in 1400
3. I can send the EXACT same 10k traffic to a different affilate account with the same sponsor, and less than 60% of the traffic is counted and the ratio is way down in the 1 in 3000 range.
This is just not 1 or 2 sponsors, this is 12 or more. And this is not just a 1000 hits. This is from 100k ad day being sold to paysites, and another 200kplus a day I send to my own affiliate accounts.
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Someone else posted a reasonable explaination, in that they go on a surfer habbit deal.Originally posted by inthestars
What is the difference in the traffic being sent to the sponsor by the two affiliates? Does the one being shaved hard have better quality traffic?
Sponsor code A - Surfer retains for 4 months
Sponsor code B - Surfer retains for 2 months
1) So Sponsor Code A gets shaved to match sponsor code B.
Half as many joins count?
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2) Sponsor feels Code A is worth more since members stay so he gets shaved less then code B who doesn't retain and maybe will take the hint that 1/5000 ratio he should move his traffic elsewhere.Comment
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umm, if you were sending really really bad traffic, anyone with a brain woud just come and tell you to take your shit elsewhere.Comment
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