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08-30-2003, 11:03 AM

Yo

I have a remark regarding PR.

Correct me if I am wrong but isnt it more important to be in top 10 on a keyword and getting massive hits than lets say to have a pr6 and be hidden on your main keyword and not getting massive hits?

Ok back to work
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08-30-2003, 11:04 AM

I wish more people would think like you Juicy. I get ICQ's from people all the time asking how to improve their PR. I could give a rats ass about PR, it's all about the ranking!!

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08-30-2003, 11:08 AM

Everyone wants to be #1 only problem is there can only be one #1.

Its a viscious psychological mind cycle that plays itself over and over again with every effort to be #1. To be even #2 is not good enough even when your wearing the shoes of #3.

This is a thing that brings grown men to outrage, it is the thing that makes men cry.

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08-30-2003, 11:08 AM

I have a site rated PR4 and doesn't get any google traffic. In my opinion it means shit. I also have a PR3 site which gets a decent amount of SE traffic. I think the google PR is just mirrors and smoke.
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08-30-2003, 11:08 AM

Originally posted by WiredGuy
I wish more people would think like you Juicy. I get ICQ's from people all the time asking how to improve their PR. I could give a rats ass about PR, it's all about the ranking!!

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I started doing SEO for myself for the last month or two and you gotta bring it back to the basics. Alot of people dont understand that its not easy or hard but you need to devote time to understanding the logic and comcepts and incoportaing it to your needs. PR is overatted i feel.
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08-30-2003, 11:11 AM

Originally posted by Fabuleux
I have a site rated PR4 and doesn't get any google traffic. In my opinion it means shit. I also have a PR3 site which gets a decent amount of SE traffic. I think the google PR is just mirrors and smoke.

Even Google themselves say PR is just one among many factors. So, it's not smoke and mirrors... just people not listening to Google.

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08-30-2003, 11:13 AM

Acquiring more PR can lead a grown person to insanity... It's all about the traffic, not the PR.

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08-30-2003, 11:14 AM

Originally posted by juicylinks
PR is overatted i feel.

i have heard different things about it, how it increases your chance of being listed higher to it causing your site to be spidered more often. i've even heard it's being phased out.

another thing i've heard is that google is losing some of its importance, and other SEs are gaining ground fast.
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08-30-2003, 11:15 AM

The one thing that I have seen about the Google page rank is that if you have a good PR, googlebot likes to visit your page more often.

So my PR4 and up sites are easier to tweak since their listings are renewed daily.

I check out my server logs daily, and I definately see googlebot hitting my good PR sites often, and sometimes it takes forever for it to get around to my low PR sites.

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08-30-2003, 11:19 AM

Originally posted by juicylinks
Yo

I have a remark regarding PR.

Correct me if I am wrong but isnt it more important to be in top 10 on a keyword and getting massive hits than lets say to have a pr6 and be hidden on your main keyword and not getting massive hits?

Ok back to work

exactly yesterday when I saw the PR thread, I checked my new site and saw it jumped to PR5, but stil I'm not ranked #1 on the site name search LOL.

So I checked sites in front of me in the ranking and they don't even have a better PR, in fact most of em dont even have a PR.

I'm not worried to be sooon #1 on that search, but I just don't give a flying fuck about PR anymore LMAO

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08-30-2003, 01:17 PM

Originally posted by WiredGuy
I wish more people would think like you Juicy. I get ICQ's from people all the time asking how to improve their PR. I could give a rats ass about PR, it's all about the ranking!!

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08-30-2003, 09:40 PM

Originally posted by WiredGuy
I wish more people would think like you Juicy. I get ICQ's from people all the time asking how to improve their PR. I could give a rats ass about PR, it's all about the ranking!!

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08-30-2003, 09:54 PM

Originally posted by Terenzo
i dont know what is wrong with you, but you must be really stupid. people SHALL believe that.

Yeah, that's right, I know shit all on search engines. Keep on going after your precious PR there buddy, we'll see...

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08-30-2003, 10:00 PM

Originally posted by Terenzo
i dont know what is wrong with you, but you must be really stupid. people SHALL believe that.

Spoken from a true SE Expert I see...

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08-30-2003, 10:30 PM

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08-30-2003, 10:45 PM

Originally posted by jasonir
PR is useless if you aren't ranked well. Who cares about PR? I don't care about PR. It's just another - and now much less valuable than it was before - variable used when calculating ranking in the SERPs.

Ahh yes, the SEO Genius is out giving advice yet again. Well from the looks of your site and rankings, it's easy to tell that you don't care about PR or any other SEO methods. Do you sit there and just pray to god that your rankings will improve? I loved the keyword stuffing methods you did for that one client you did the seo work for. I also enjoyed that comment that was deleted from the other Google post about how useless WW was, as a resource, considering EVERY pro in the SEO industry hangs out there giving advice including people who actually work at the search engines themselves. But hey, you know your shit man, so who am I to criticize.

Another idiot to add to the list.

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08-30-2003, 10:49 PM

Originally posted by NiteChatDotTV

Ahh yes, the SEO Genius is out giving advice yet again. Well from the looks of your site and rankings, it's easy to tell that you don't care about PR or any other SEO methods. Do you sit there and just pray to god that your rankings will improve? I loved the keyword stuffing methods you did for that one client you did the seo work for. I also enjoyed that comment that was deleted from the other Google post about how useless WW was, as a resource, considering EVERY pro in the SEO industry hangs out there giving advice including people who actually work at the search engines themselves. But hey, you know your shit man, so who am I to criticize.

Another idiot to add to the list.

Ha. I can feel free to delete whatever posts of my own that I choose. Can you guarantee results?

Every pro does not hang out at WW. WW is useless. Unless you like reading rumors and useless, endless speculation.... have fun.

Frankly, if I gave a damn what you thought I'd have updated my client list a year ago.

[edit] Likewise, just added you to my ignore list. By the way, I loved the praying to god bit. HA! [/edit]

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08-30-2003, 10:53 PM

I don't get it. My TGP is a PR5 (same as TheHun.com), where's all my traffic going?

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08-30-2003, 10:53 PM

Originally posted by jasonir
Can you guarantee results?

You're willing to guarantee top spots on google? I find that a little hard to believe unless the keywords are very obscure.

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08-30-2003, 10:56 PM

Guarantee results.. hmm.. nope I cannot. But I do know that those that do guarantee it are frauds. It's pretty impossible to guarantee results on something you have zero control over. Maybe a year or two ago you could guarantee results on Excite for #1 for a specific keyword, but that shit was really simple to do.

So if you guarantee results, put your site at #1 on Google for the keyword "search engine optimization" by October 1st 2003, and I'll send you $1000 and never say a word again.

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08-30-2003, 10:57 PM

Originally posted by WiredGuy

You're willing to guarantee top spots on google? I find that a little hard to believe unless the keywords are very obscure.

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We can guarantee top spots because we have the budget to back us up. Small firms and individuals cannot guarantee results because SEO client income represents a main part of their personal income.

If we were not willing to put the full force of our team behind our client's websites, we would not be able to guarantee top positions, because they would not be attainable.

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08-30-2003, 10:57 PM

Originally posted by WiredGuy

You're willing to guarantee top spots on google? I find that a little hard to believe unless the keywords are very obscure.

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08-30-2003, 10:59 PM

Originally posted by jasonir

We can guarantee top spots because we have the budget to back us up. Small firms and individuals cannot guarantee results because SEO client income represents a main part of their personal income.

If we were not willing to put the full force of our team behind our client's websites, we would not be able to guarantee top positions, because they would not be attainable.

Jason... I really hope you aren't referring to PAID listings, because anyone can do that. That's not considered Search Engine Optimization, that's just considered advertising on the search engines. There's a difference, and you're a pro, so you should know it.

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08-30-2003, 11:00 PM

Originally posted by NiteChatDotTV
Removed since you were nice enough to change your comments.

I am not referring to paid listings/AdWords, of course.

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08-30-2003, 11:01 PM

domain: innovationdev.com

created: 2003-01-12 15:14:53 UTC JORE-1

How long you been in the biz again?

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08-30-2003, 11:02 PM

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domain: innovationdev.com

created: 2003-01-12 15:14:53 UTC JORE-1

How long you been in the biz again?

We used the domain innovativerealms.com before our current one, before that we had no site.

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08-30-2003, 11:02 PM

Originally posted by jasonir

Even though you are on my ignore list, some craziness inside me forced me to hit "view post".

Our results are covered 100% by contractual agreement. Argue with that.

Also, I don't think we'd be willing to do "search engine optimization" for $1000, and you know damn well it couldn't be done in a month. We don't offer the impossible. If we did that, we certainly wouldn't make any money.

I'm not going to resort to name calling.

So then your company really does search engine advertising, not actual optimization... because you pay for the "sponsored listings" spots.

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08-30-2003, 11:02 PM

my thoughs on the subject would be about the same as with TGP. anyone who says they are a PRO at getting search engine placement works with their own stuff. And there ARE some real pros out there.

Ask yourself this - if someone says they can do it for you to make you piles of money - WHY arn't they doing it THEMSELVES???. Often they have a ton of what they CONSIDER to be good reasons but when it all boils down they would be doing it for themsleves if they were any good and not for others.

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08-30-2003, 11:05 PM

Originally posted by SleazyDream
my thoughs on the subject would be about the same as with TGP. anyone who says they are a PRO at getting search engine placement works with their own stuff. And there ARE some real pros out there.

Ask yourself this - if someone says they can do it for you to make you piles of money - WHY arn't they doing it THEMSELVES???. Often they have a ton of what they CONSIDER to be good reasons but when it all boils down they would be doing it for themsleves if they were any good and not for others.

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08-30-2003, 11:05 PM

Originally posted by jasonir

We used the domain innovativerealms.com before our current one, before that we had no site.

Oh, ok. That's cool. Did you do the same thing w/ IR.com? SE Optimizations?

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08-30-2003, 11:06 PM

Originally posted by jasonir

You have ICQ? I have proof.

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proof that you work for yourself or that you scam others outa their cash?

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08-30-2003, 11:06 PM

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08-30-2003, 11:07 PM

Originally posted by Voodoo

Oh, ok. That's cool. Did you do the same thing w/ IR.com? SE Optimizations?

We did mostly design and PHP development. SEO is now our main focus. I've been doing SEO personally for 5 years.

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08-30-2003, 11:07 PM

Originally posted by SleazyDream
Ask yourself this - if someone says they can do it for you to make you piles of money - WHY arn't they doing it THEMSELVES???. Often they have a ton of what they CONSIDER to be good reasons but when it all boils down they would be doing it for themsleves if they were any good and not for others.

I couldn't have phrased it better myself.

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08-30-2003, 11:08 PM

Jason -

Not trying to hound you, just don't think you are what you say you are, that's all. If you can prove your guaranteed results, then do it, but from the looks of your site, and your "clients" sites, ehhh I just don't see it.

If you have a new client base, why not update the site with them? Do they exist?

Maybe I'm going a bit far with this..

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08-30-2003, 11:10 PM

Originally posted by SleazyDream

proof that you work for yourself or that you scam others outa their cash?

Wow, my first GFY drama. I should try more in the future to avoid public arguments, sorry.

As I stated before, all the work we do is contractually 100% guaranteed.

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08-30-2003, 11:12 PM

Originally posted by jasonir

We did mostly design and PHP development. SEO is now our main focus. I've been doing SEO personally for 5 years.

What were you doing between March of 2002 and Janurary of 2003??

Just curious.

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08-30-2003, 11:12 PM

how are your Anchors today?
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08-30-2003, 11:13 PM

Originally posted by jasonir
...100% guaranteed.

Do you have a web viewable contract that I can see? I may be interested in your services. But, I would like to read the fine print if you don't mind.

Thanks

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08-30-2003, 11:14 PM

Originally posted by jasonir
As I stated before, all the work we do is contractually 100% guaranteed.

Ok, you seem so convinced that you're able to guarantee Google rankings, so let's see what are the terms of your contract...

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08-30-2003, 11:14 PM

Originally posted by Voodoo

Do you have a web viewable contract that I can see? I may be interested in your services. But, I would like to read the fine print if you don't mind.

Thanks

There's no fine print, but I'm interested in putting an end to this thread. If you'd like more info - anyone - or if you'd like to flame me, etc. ICQ me or call me at (866) 701-6192.

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08-30-2003, 11:15 PM

Originally posted by jasonir
There's no fine print, but I'm interested in putting an end to this thread.

Then post the contract.
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08-30-2003, 11:16 PM

Originally posted by jasonir

There's no fine print, but I'm interested in putting an end to this thread. If you'd like more info - anyone - or if you'd like to flame me, etc. ICQ me or call me at (866) 701-6192.

Ok, I was considering using your services, but, if you can't talk about it in open forum, I suppose they aren't worth a shit, and you can't do what you claim.

Thanks anyways.... fucking scammers.

If you truly can provide the service that you claim... post more info please.

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08-30-2003, 11:16 PM

PR is backlinks isn't it?, the more backlinks, the more traffic ( but from your trades & not from the se's).
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08-30-2003, 11:20 PM

Originally posted by slackologist
PR is backlinks isn't it?, the more backlinks, the more traffic ( but from your trades & not from the se's).

PR = PageRank, has nothing to do with traffic, but has everything to do with the number of sites that link to you.

There's plenty of info on Google's site.

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08-30-2003, 11:20 PM

google mentions(somewhere in their site) it being a good idea to stay away from seo companies that claim they can get you certain listings along with software that does the same. i think it's good advice.
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08-30-2003, 11:20 PM

Jason-

I just don't like seeing people like you, that seem to be bullshitting or inflating promises to webmasters that really give SEO a bad name. Countless mainstream clients come to us with stories about firms like you, ones that "guarantee results" because they have a giant team with a giant budget. Do you charge the shit out of them to get that giant budget? If you have such a giant budget to work with why not use some of that profit to improve your own rankings?

A few posts ago you mentioned that you, personally, have been doing the SEO game for 5 years already.. then why the hell are you using spammy techniques for your clients, and ZERO seo tactics for your own site(s).

Maybe I'm still hung up on your "guaranteed results on a contractual agreement" bullshit. Because I send my clients a contract, and it clearly states that we do not guarantee any specific results or listings, because we cannot, and no one can, except the search engines themselves. Unless of course you're going to tell us next that your roommate's cousin's brother's girlfriend's mother has an insider pal at every search engine, and that you just send over your client's site, with a large envelope of cash and they magically "guarantee results" on those engines.

Maybe you should stick to designing and developing instead of lying about SEO.

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08-30-2003, 11:23 PM

Originally posted by Voodoo

Ok, I was considering using your services, but, if you can't talk about it in open forum, I suppose they aren't worth a shit, and you can't do what you claim.

Thanks anyways.... fucking scammers.

If you truly can provide the service that you claim... post more info please.

Our contracts are highly customized to the client. They take about 5 hours to write, and we don't use templates. If you were really interested in our services, you'd email me. The only parts of the contract that are the same for all clients are the ethical practises and payment portions, which essentially guarantee that we won't do anything to get you banned/black listed and that you'll pay us when we get you the results.

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08-30-2003, 11:27 PM

Originally posted by jasonir
Our contracts are highly customized to the client. They take about 5 hours to write, and we don't use templates.

5 hours to write each prospective client? I would be sitting all day writing proposals to each person who emailed me for a quote!

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08-30-2003, 11:27 PM

search engine geniouses always talk about RANK and position and never about TRAFFIC.

rank is meaningless -speak to me about TRAFFIC and then you'll get my attention.

how much can you bring in from google a day to a TGP?

simple question. can you answer it?

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