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DirtyDanza · 08-29-2003, 08:49 AM

I was looking last night.... I have like 20 min of sample video's on th outside of my site.... then it dawned on me... is that to much.... what do you guys think..... a sample for each girl converts better or say just my first 2 girls have samples for?

http://www.dirtysdicksuckers.com/preview2.html

no pop ups there on that link....

I am curious to see what the board thinks on this matter

Libertine · 08-29-2003, 08:52 AM

Use a little script that only allows people see the first 2 vids they click, and then redirects them to a join page when they want to preview another one

nobull · 08-29-2003, 08:54 AM

I think that it depends on the site and your traffic. I have one reality site that does well with a good trailer for each episode. The best thing you can do it create another tour page(s) that only have a couple samples and test it for a day or 2. If it works you will have your answer, if not just switch it back to the old one.

DirtyDanza · 08-29-2003, 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by punkworld
Use a little script that only allows people see the first 2 vids they click, and then redirects them to a join page when they want to preview another one

and how the hell do I do that...... I droped out of school to make porn not webmaster.... LOL just joking... but really how would I do that....

nobull · 08-29-2003, 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by punkworld
Use a little script that only allows people see the first 2 vids they click, and then redirects them to a join page when they want to preview another one

That works well too

Pipecrew · 08-29-2003, 08:59 AM

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Originally posted by Dirty_DS

and how the hell do I do that...... I droped out of school to make porn not webmaster.... LOL just joking... but really how would I do that....

Pay a programmer, probably only cost like 50 bucks.

SGS · 08-29-2003, 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by punkworld
Use a little script that only allows people see the first 2 vids they click, and then redirects them to a join page when they want to preview another one

Good call

nobull · 08-29-2003, 09:07 AM

i'll do it for you for 50 bucks...

ICQ me: 179419520

it will take a day

slaphappy · 08-29-2003, 09:13 AM

Nah, dont' change a thing.. I love to beat off to your trailers man. Just hit "loop" and I'm set.

Yes you give away way too much! The second clip down is 1:44. Way too long. Make them short and sweet and tease the surfer. Your BW must be a nice chunk of change each month

DirtyDanza · 08-29-2003, 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by slaphappy
Nah, dont' change a thing.. I love to beat off to your trailers man. Just hit "loop" and I'm set.

Yes you give away way too much! The second clip down is 1:44. Way too long. Make them short and sweet and tease the surfer. Your BW must be a nice chunk of change each month

would you suggest just like 2 traliors total... or a short one for each girl......?

Libertine · 08-29-2003, 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nobull
i'll do it for you for 50 bucks...

ICQ me: 179419520

it will take a day

LOL

Here's a possible way to go about it:
(assuming you use video previews embedded in a php popup page)

Set up database table which contains fields for IP, "number" and the time+date, first time someone opens the page, his IP is recorded with 1 as the number, and shown the page, second time with the same IP the number is incremented to 2, and once the number is 2 when someone tries to open a page like that the popup redirects to a "join to see more" page. Set up an hourly crontab to delete IP entries older than 2 hours, done.

Should take 20 minutes

(ofcourse, there are a few dozen other ways to do it, all with some problems)

DirtyDanza · 08-29-2003, 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by punkworld

LOL

Here's a possible way to go about it:
(assuming you use video previews embedded in a php popup page)

Set up database table which contains fields for IP, "number" and the time+date, first time someone opens the page, his IP is recorded with 1 as the number, and shown the page, second time with the same IP the number is incremented to 2, and once the number is 2 when someone tries to open a page like that the popup redirects to a "join to see more" page. Set up an hourly crontab to delete IP entries older than 2 hours, done.

Should take 20 minutes

(ofcourse, there are a few dozen other ways to do it, all with some problems)

wow.... that sounds out of my league... I am sure I could figure it out... but that makes no sence to me.....

Libertine · 08-29-2003, 09:23 AM

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Originally posted by Dirty_DS

wow.... that sounds out of my league... I am sure I could figure it out... but that makes no sence to me.....

And that's why you'll end up paying someone $50 for 20 minutes of work

DirtyDanza · 08-29-2003, 09:24 AM

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Originally posted by punkworld

And that's why you'll end up paying someone $50 for 20 minutes of work

don't bet on that......

Mutt · 08-29-2003, 09:30 AM

did Riley retire? only place i've seen her is at CaliforniaPimp and the site u have for her. she could make alot of money.

directfiesta · 08-29-2003, 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dirty_DS

don't bet on that......

Most of the time, it is better to pay $ 50.00 then spend your whole day if not more trying to figure it out. To each his job.. and btw I am not a programmer and am not offering to do it for you, since I can't... But I think I will pay to get that implemented...

Quote:

"If you pay peanuts, you will get a monkey"

gregtx · 08-29-2003, 09:35 AM

you're second trailer uses N.I.N fuck you like an animal..

not sure if you paid royalties on that.. but not a wise thing if you didn't...

DirtyDanza · 08-29-2003, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mutt
did Riley retire? only place i've seen her is at CaliforniaPimp and the site u have for her. she could make alot of money.

could... what about does.... she shot for NVG/CP before I met her..... then I nabbed her.... I keep her barefoot and preggy in my kitchen.... but I shoot her when the time calls for it..... as far as anyone else.... my partner over at creamed cuties has her... she is lilly on there.... but after that.... we got riley ryder.... promoter her site if you want some scrilla to... by all means... she sells herself.... with very little marketing from me..... I can't imiagne if I put time into her site.... but I don't have the time.... to much puke flying around here.....

DirtyDanza · 08-29-2003, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gregtx
you're second trailer uses N.I.N fuck you like an animal..

not sure if you paid royalties on that.. but not a wise thing if you didn't...

did you also notice that is is not the fuck you like an animal we all hear......

nobull · 08-29-2003, 09:49 AM

just use cookies, that way you can do it based on the user, not the ip. You can also expire it whenever you want. If you do it based on IP and there are a bunch of users using the same proxy it will suck. I'm just trying to help, i have been a mainstream internet developer for 6 years and figured i would give you a hand, 50 bucks for an hour of development is cheap, but if someone else that posted here can do it in 20 minutes I would take them up on it.

clubsexy · 08-29-2003, 09:53 AM

Just give away trailers on the first page of chicks, then on the second page, make them all join links.

IMO though, a 4 - 6 page tour doesn't work with TGP traffic anyway, the surfer has to go through a lot of pages from your index to the join page really.

I could be wrong though. But I like tours to be like 2 pages long and to the point. TGP surfers have A.D.D.

Libertine · 08-29-2003, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nobull
just use cookies, that way you can do it based on the user, not the ip. You can also expire it whenever you want. If you do it based on IP and there are a bunch of users using the same proxy it will suck. I'm just trying to help, i have been a mainstream internet developer for 6 years and figured i would give you a hand, 50 bucks for an hour of development is cheap, but if someone else that posted here can do it in 20 minutes I would take them up on it.

Apart from quite a few people blocking cookies (which means you either have to give those people access to all vids or access to no vids whatsoever, in which case the same happens as with multiple IPs but on a larger scale), there's also the problem of users being able to view all the vids with very little work.

Also, I didn't offer to do the work. Have way too little time already, and the money really doesn't make a difference to me

Libertine · 08-29-2003, 10:03 AM

Btw, with cookies it's 15 minutes of work at most

Libertine · 08-29-2003, 10:23 AM

This'll do the job. Cookie expires when the browser session ends (user closes his browser), all this stuff needs to be in a php page before any html or blank space whatsoever. Just add the html after it. If the user doesn't take cookies or whatever, he can see all vids (just like now).

PHP Code:


			
<?php

if(!isset($_COOKIE['raunchy_vids'])){

    setcookie('raunchy_vids', 'one');

} elseif($_COOKIE['raunchy_vids'] hahahaha 'one'){

    setcookie('raunchy_vids', 'two');

} else { header("Location: [url]http://www.yoursite.com/joinpopup.php[/url]"); }

?>

Now, how in the world is that an hour of work?! Even if you make a slightly larger version which works a bit better than this?

Edit:
hahahaha should be replaced with = = without a space in between. GFY censors some weird shit.

DirtyDanza · 08-29-2003, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by punkworld
This'll do the job. Cookie expires when the browser session ends (user closes his browser), all this stuff needs to be in a php page before any html or blank space whatsoever. Just add the html after it. If the user doesn't take cookies or whatever, he can see all vids (just like now).

PHP Code:

<?php if(!isset($_COOKIE['raunchy_vids'])){ setcookie('raunchy_vids', 'one'); } elseif($_COOKIE['raunchy_vids'] hahahaha 'one'){ setcookie('raunchy_vids', 'two'); } else { header("Location: [url]http://www.yoursite.com/joinpopup.php[/url]"); } ?>

Now, how in the world is that an hour of work?! Even if you make a slightly larger version which works a bit better than this?

oh wow.... thank you very much.... is there any way I can get you to contact me ICQ real fast I got a quick question....

Libertine · 08-29-2003, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dirty_DS

oh wow.... thank you very much.... is there any way I can get you to contact me ICQ real fast I got a quick question....

Read the edit, and it should work.

markell · 08-29-2003, 10:29 AM

i say shorten the preview clips down to about 45 seconds

Libertine · 08-29-2003, 10:37 AM

GFY keeps screwing up the code, here's the text file for anyone who wants the code:
http://www.captainevil.com/gfy/bla.txt

nobull · 08-29-2003, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by punkworld
This'll do the job. Cookie expires when the browser session ends (user closes his browser), all this stuff needs to be in a php page before any html or blank space whatsoever. Just add the html after it. If the user doesn't take cookies or whatever, he can see all vids (just like now).

PHP Code:

<?php if(!isset($_COOKIE['raunchy_vids'])){ setcookie('raunchy_vids', 'one'); } elseif($_COOKIE['raunchy_vids'] hahahaha 'one'){ setcookie('raunchy_vids', 'two'); } else { header("Location: [url]http://www.yoursite.com/joinpopup.php[/url]"); } ?>

Now, how in the world is that an hour of work?! Even if you make a slightly larger version which works a bit better than this?

Edit:
hahahaha should be replaced with = = without a space in between. GFY censors some weird shit.

, hey Dirty_DS, after you get done pounding your head against your monitor for 3 hours trying to figure out how that will work hit me up on ICQ, I'm going to write the script for one of my paysites this weekend anyway, i'll just give it too you for free. 179419520

nobull · 08-29-2003, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by punkworld
GFY keeps screwing up the code, here's the text file for anyone who wants the code:
http://www.captainevil.com/gfy/bla.txt

Please explain how that will work if someone clicks on a media file, like a MPG or WMV?

brand0n · 08-29-2003, 10:45 AM

yea bro i think your giving away 2 much

Libertine · 08-29-2003, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nobull

Please explain how that will work if someone clicks on a media file, like a MPG or WMV?

They don't click on a media file. They click a link that will open a popup with a video embedded in the html. Like he has on his site. http://www.dirtysdicksuckers.com/preview2.html

dougeetx · 08-29-2003, 10:59 AM

How much is it costing you in bandwidth? If you can afford the bandwidth charges, I say go for it and keep a preview for each girl.

directfiesta · 08-29-2003, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dougeetx
How much is it costing you in bandwidth? If you can afford the bandwidth charges, I say go for it and keep a preview for each girl.

True. Mainly if you are doing well with the $$$$.

If it ain't broken, don't fix it....

Peter Romero · 08-29-2003, 11:31 AM

Dirty,
Your clips should be 30-45 seconds at the most, anything else is jerkable. 3 months ago we re-edited all our 1 minute videos to half the size & doubled our conversion. We just got some software to shrink the size of the video file to 1/2 or even a 1/4 of the size with no reduction in quality - hence - 1/4 the bandwidth bill. You have my number, call me for more info.

Thanks to evryone else for the codes, I'll wake my programer up in a few and brainstorm with him about these options. Later.

TheFLY · 08-29-2003, 11:57 AM

jerkable tour = bad

this info is on my site...

Peter Romero · 08-29-2003, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheFLY
jerkable tour = bad

this info is on my site...

Great site fly.

Chris · 08-29-2003, 01:13 PM

Ic3m4nZ · 08-29-2003, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JupZChris

I don't where they found that

DirtyDanza · 08-29-2003, 01:38 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by JupZChris
[B]

QUOTE]

mmmmm I love cat....

08-29-2003, 08:49 AM	#1
DirtyDanza Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: BP4L.... Las Vegas, Posts: 8,370	Do I give to much away for free..... I was looking last night.... I have like 20 min of sample video's on th outside of my site.... then it dawned on me... is that to much.... what do you guys think..... a sample for each girl converts better or say just my first 2 girls have samples for? http://www.dirtysdicksuckers.com/preview2.html no pop ups there on that link.... I am curious to see what the board thinks on this matter __________________ AVN Nominated Camming Couple

08-29-2003, 08:52 AM	#2
Libertine sex dwarf Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 17,860	Use a little script that only allows people see the first 2 vids they click, and then redirects them to a join page when they want to preview another one __________________ /(bb\|[^b]{2})/

08-29-2003, 08:54 AM	#3
nobull Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,256	I think that it depends on the site and your traffic. I have one reality site that does well with a good trailer for each episode. The best thing you can do it create another tour page(s) that only have a couple samples and test it for a day or 2. If it works you will have your answer, if not just switch it back to the old one. __________________ NOREBILLS -- MAKE CASH NOW WITH THE NEWEST IDEA IN ONLINE PORN!

08-29-2003, 09:07 AM	#8
nobull Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,256	i'll do it for you for 50 bucks... ICQ me: 179419520 it will take a day __________________ NOREBILLS -- MAKE CASH NOW WITH THE NEWEST IDEA IN ONLINE PORN!

08-29-2003, 09:30 AM	#15
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	did Riley retire? only place i've seen her is at CaliforniaPimp and the site u have for her. she could make alot of money. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

08-29-2003, 09:13 AM	#9
slaphappy Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 201	Nah, dont' change a thing.. I love to beat off to your trailers man. Just hit "loop" and I'm set. Yes you give away way too much! The second clip down is 1:44. Way too long. Make them short and sweet and tease the surfer. Your BW must be a nice chunk of change each month

08-29-2003, 09:35 AM	#17
gregtx Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 1,929	you're second trailer uses N.I.N fuck you like an animal.. not sure if you paid royalties on that.. but not a wise thing if you didn't... __________________ Processing Partners http://www.processingpartners.com

08-29-2003, 09:49 AM	#20
nobull Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,256	just use cookies, that way you can do it based on the user, not the ip. You can also expire it whenever you want. If you do it based on IP and there are a bunch of users using the same proxy it will suck. I'm just trying to help, i have been a mainstream internet developer for 6 years and figured i would give you a hand, 50 bucks for an hour of development is cheap, but if someone else that posted here can do it in 20 minutes I would take them up on it. __________________ NOREBILLS -- MAKE CASH NOW WITH THE NEWEST IDEA IN ONLINE PORN! Last edited by nobull; 08-29-2003 at 09:54 AM..

08-29-2003, 09:53 AM	#21
clubsexy Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Anaheim, CA Posts: 1,630	Just give away trailers on the first page of chicks, then on the second page, make them all join links. IMO though, a 4 - 6 page tour doesn't work with TGP traffic anyway, the surfer has to go through a lot of pages from your index to the join page really. I could be wrong though. But I like tours to be like 2 pages long and to the point. TGP surfers have A.D.D. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

08-29-2003, 10:03 AM	#23
Libertine sex dwarf Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 17,860	Btw, with cookies it's 15 minutes of work at most __________________ /(bb\|[^b]{2})/

08-29-2003, 10:23 AM	#24
Libertine sex dwarf Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 17,860	This'll do the job. Cookie expires when the browser session ends (user closes his browser), all this stuff needs to be in a php page before any html or blank space whatsoever. Just add the html after it. If the user doesn't take cookies or whatever, he can see all vids (just like now). PHP Code: `<?php if(!isset($_COOKIE['raunchy_vids'])){ setcookie('raunchy_vids', 'one'); } elseif($_COOKIE['raunchy_vids'] hahahaha 'one'){ setcookie('raunchy_vids', 'two'); } else { header("Location: [url]http://www.yoursite.com/joinpopup.php[/url]"); } ?>` Now, how in the world is that an hour of work?! Even if you make a slightly larger version which works a bit better than this? Edit: hahahaha should be replaced with = = without a space in between. GFY censors some weird shit. __________________ /(bb\|[^b]{2})/ Last edited by Libertine; 08-29-2003 at 10:27 AM..

08-29-2003, 10:29 AM	#27
markell Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Las Vegas & Los Angeles Posts: 1,190	i say shorten the preview clips down to about 45 seconds __________________ blah blah fucking blah

08-29-2003, 10:37 AM	#28
Libertine sex dwarf Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 17,860	GFY keeps screwing up the code, here's the text file for anyone who wants the code: http://www.captainevil.com/gfy/bla.txt __________________ /(bb\|[^b]{2})/

08-29-2003, 10:45 AM	#31
brand0n been very busy Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: the queen city Posts: 26,983	yea bro i think your giving away 2 much __________________ want to buy this spot for cheap? it is of course for sale. long term deals are always the best bet. brand0n/ at/ a o l dot commies.

08-29-2003, 10:59 AM	#33
dougeetx Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 6,163	How much is it costing you in bandwidth? If you can afford the bandwidth charges, I say go for it and keep a preview for each girl. __________________ Coming Soon! A NEW revolution in black adult social networking!

08-29-2003, 11:31 AM	#35
Peter Romero Long time no happy ending Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: San Diego CA Posts: 10,578	Dirty, Your clips should be 30-45 seconds at the most, anything else is jerkable. 3 months ago we re-edited all our 1 minute videos to half the size & doubled our conversion. We just got some software to shrink the size of the video file to 1/2 or even a 1/4 of the size with no reduction in quality - hence - 1/4 the bandwidth bill. You have my number, call me for more info. Thanks to evryone else for the codes, I'll wake my programer up in a few and brainstorm with him about these options. Later. __________________ POVCash [email protected] See them all here: http://www.Petergirls.com

08-29-2003, 11:57 AM	#36
TheFLY So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: http://www.thefly.net/ --- Quit your job and live off steady traffic. Posts: 11,856	jerkable tour = bad this info is on my site...

08-29-2003, 01:13 PM	#38
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08-29-2003, 01:38 PM	#40
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