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AaronM 08-23-2003 10:59 AM

50 CRY BABIES! :321GFY

Strife 08-23-2003 11:14 AM

lazy ass morons :321GFY

JMM 08-23-2003 11:36 AM

http://www.content-club.com/xcart

No registration.
instant download.
no set over $25

Va2k 08-23-2003 01:01 PM

Ya know i've felt like that for the longest time, screw a content store that makes me have to do that dumb shit, but ya know what, if you really sit and think about it when they do do this they are helping paysites and alot of people, What stops a surfer from just going in and looking at the free shit to jerk off too, or hell just buy the sets he wants and never signup to a paysite?

It also helps to protect children, and to protect your ass as well. Like i said i wasnt for it for the longest time, me and charly went rounds over it when i first started, Im glad they do, I will only do biz with them type of content providers from now on, *shrugs*



TOM

Dirty F 08-23-2003 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by va2k
Ya know i've felt like that for the longest time, screw a content store that makes me have to do that dumb shit, but ya know what, if you really sit and think about it when they do do this they are helping paysites and alot of people, What stops a surfer from just going in and looking at the free shit to jerk off too, or hell just buy the sets he wants and never signup to a paysite?

It also helps to protect children, and to protect your ass as well. Like i said i wasnt for it for the longest time, me and charly went rounds over it when i first started, Im glad they do, I will only do biz with them type of content providers from now on, *shrugs*



TOM

Or a surfer can go to a tgp and get 1000's of pics or go to a content store and get 2 preview pics per set?

Uh, must be a hard choice.

jimmyf 08-23-2003 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly
As for the money we make by having the sign up process. Look at those with the process and those with out, then tell us which ones are making the most money.

Why you need to register. Your time is valuable and it will save you time. How?

Most webmasters say getting new content is very important, it is as important to get the right content. When you sign up you get put on a mailing list.

This enables you to get emails with the latest additions and special offers. You get a picture of the set, so you can judge for yourself whether it is suitable for your sites, whether the price fits your budget. All deleivered to your screen.

By not registering you havetrawl around looking for the new sets, the ones that fit your sites and your budget then that is up to you. Most webmasters I know would rather spend that time building the sites, designing them or driving traffic.

charly, I'd really rather not have to register. Usually I just move on. When I want to buy I will go shopping and do not need 2 know when new sets have come out, thank you very much.

jimmyf 08-23-2003 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM


This thread is not worth the response that I was about to type.

Moving on now.....

bye

jimmyf 08-23-2003 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Olivier
The best thing is to have both of them :)

You can come to my site without registration, look at the content, buy the content you want, then you have instant download links in your email and also instant license.

AND you can also decide to register, so by this way in your account there will be a record of all your orders, download links and license. So you can donwload the content again if something bad happens like a HD crash... Also, it'll be faster to buy the content, because all the info (name, address...) will be already registred so you'll just need to put CC# exp date and that's it :thumbsup

I really thing that's the best way. For those who prefer to not register, that's fine for them. They can come and buy the content instantly; no need to fill out a regisration form.
For those who prefer to keep a track of their orders and to avoid filling in name and address in the check out form, well, they can register :winkwink:

I hope it helps.

Cheers!
:glugglug

right fucking on. :thumbsup

jimmyf 08-23-2003 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PuppetMaster


Said the person with a whole 77 posts and no identifying links in their sig or profile.

Yep, people should value your input.

About as much as mine anyway.

what Diff. 1 post or 50,000 post?

jimmyf 08-23-2003 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by amacontent
I removed my registartion area and my sales are up.
2 fucking funny:thumbsup

jimmyf 08-23-2003 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dank


:eek7

Why must people talk out their ass like this? Aaron has not argued. You gave your input and he gave his. Then you attacked him for it.

Grow up. This is an adult message board.

am not taking sides...but I think Aaron came accross pretty
harsh. :2 cents:

Gemini 08-23-2003 02:39 PM

What difference does it make?? If a content site owner wants to use the reg, get the H*LL over it. Don't buy their content. Whining about it only makes you look like you realllly would LIKE to have some maybe but for SOME reason don't want them to know you were looking or have your info... Or it just makes you look whiney. :Graucho

DanielJOOO 08-23-2003 02:43 PM

so you want surfers to jerk-off to content-samples and not to your paysites?

Lane 08-23-2003 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by amacontent
I removed my registartion area and my sales are up.

AaronM 08-23-2003 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gemini
What difference does it make?? If a content site owner wants to use the reg, get the H*LL over it. Don't buy their content. Whining about it only makes you look like you realllly would LIKE to have some maybe but for SOME reason don't want them to know you were looking or have your info... Or it just makes you look whiney. :Graucho
:thumbsup

jimmyf 08-23-2003 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gemini
What difference does it make?? If a content site owner wants to use the reg, get the H*LL over it. Don't buy their content. Whining about it only makes you look like you realllly would LIKE to have some maybe but for SOME reason don't want them to know you were looking or have your info... Or it just makes you look whiney. :Graucho
it really make's no diff. to me, they can and will run there business what ever way that pleases them. More power to'em. I just go else where. I did get some new sources for content from this thread. All that should be Ness. for me to purchase content is a email address.

One or two content providers should start a thread NO info other than email address Ness. to purchase content.:thumbsup Know I could always use more, content is NOT an impluse purchase at least with me.

tootie 08-23-2003 04:55 PM

I just wanted to comment because I too hate to register with content providers, but I do. I do when I feel it's worth it. I don't if I think it's a waste, and there may have been several times when I was wrong and could have found some great content and great prices.

I register with content providers that I KNOW have what I'm looking for, but I can't tell you how many content providers that I have visited that don't even show ANY samples before requiring registration, nor do they even tell you what kind of content they have inside!

If I am out searching for BBW pics, for example, there is no way I am going to register at a provider who has no BBW pics as samples on the outside and who doesn't even mention having BBW pics at all.

If content prodivers are going to require registration, they should at least have one non-nude or censored samples of every set they sell (outside the protected area) OR give a thorough description of every set, including how many pictures are in each set and what niches each set covers, including price. Just require registration to view uncensored samples I really would hate to waste my time registering for a content provider that only carries busty pornstar-type models ages 25-35 when I almost never use that type of content. I mean, it's a waste of my time and a waste of their resources.

Please, if you MUST require registration, be very detailed about the type of content that you have. And PLEASE make it worth the time to register by offering online licensing or something... at least let me know what you have before I sign up.

I certainly have no problems with registering for content providers that use the registration as a means of licensing because I know how easy it is to forget to return content licenses or to think you've returned yours and realize later you haven't and you have to send it in late. I've talked to quite a few people who have forgotten to mail in licenses and been contacted later, and having online licensing that you don't have to mail in later is SOOOOO helpful and much appreciated.

But please don't make me register just to "verify my age through my domain" or get me on your mailing list unless you've got some GOOD samples outside to give me reason to register and you maybe have online licensing.

Oh, one other thing...

Kudos to adultcontent.ca who not only allows online licensing, but allows domains to be changed/added on the fly so that if I sell a domain and buy another one, it's easy to remove the old one and add the new myself. Any other providers I can get this service from that I can add to my list of favorites? If I remember correctly, Skan Media also does this. Others?

Thanks to those of you who make content buying SO easy! :)

Paul Markham 08-23-2003 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fabuleux



Then why don't you just create a form to sign-up for the mailing list. We need an entire database to store all the URL's, usernames and passwords. Maintaining that databese is a waist of time. Sometimes I forget to update it. I come to your site and think "Shit, I forgot the password" -> Bye! Next broker.

The reason you have to log in is so the database recognises you. So you can add sets to your basket without buying at that moment, to stop you from buying twice, to show us how good a client you are and whether your deserve some freebies.

Also as Loch says it will also add your details to your license which is automatically generated.

On our site the log in process will remember who you are so you do not have to remember it. What's the problem?

Paul Markham 08-24-2003 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CHMOD



I don't care if you beleive me or not.
And, you are absolutely right, I don't sign any contract: It is a waiste of time. I have the receipt that I have bought the content.

I have been buying from web legal since 6 years now... Never had to sign anything and I never had any kind of problems.

Stealing ? Please... I know the business and I respect copyrighted materiel. Would you honestly prefer that I steal your content or that I buy it and don't sign your contract ?

If ypou are buying from web legal it says it all. He sold content he did not have the rights to sell and he did not have the 2257 documents for.

Ask him about Tony C's content.

Paul Markham 08-24-2003 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by twistyneck


You sound like a total dickhead. I won't buy from pricks.

What are you buying? The seller will not convert one member, the content will.

Loch has been around a long time and if he is a dickhead , which he is not, he must be doing something right.

When the surfer forks out $30 he does it on the strength of the content, not that the content provider is sucking your ego.

Paul Markham 08-24-2003 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM


Now this is total BS and is worth my time to reply.

Loch has VERY valid points and seems to run a good business. If you do not like to register then feel free to go elsewhere. Fine by me and I know Loch feels the same himself.

Without going into details...I had a shitload of problems from asshole webmasters AND surfers prior to putting my registration system on my site. Those problems are 100% gone now. I intend to mail my list once or twice a year...max...And my registration is instant. No waiting period.

Quit crying and work together. Cry babies can take their chump change and stick it up their ass. The majority of my sales dollars come from exclusive shoot deals that I make in person anyway so who really gives a fuck if I lose 10 grand or so a month from cry babies?

You guys all seem to think that your dollars will make or break the content providers when in reality, doing business with some of you can be far more harmfull to us than not doing business with you in the first place.

100% these cry babies are the same ones who give us 80% of the agro and 10% of our turn over. You want sets at $5 to $40? Then realise we have to run autometed systems that require a minimum of work for us and you.

So we can get into the studio and create the new stuff, not being there every 5 minutes to wipe your nose. Look at the Content Providers who ask you to sign up, then look at the ones who do not. Then you will see who is doing it right. They can only survive because they have lots of clients willing and able to do that.

And if signing up to buy content, THE ONE THING THAT SELLS YOUR SITE, is such a bother. Why the heck did you ever bother to register here? It takes 3 times as long, has to be verified and all you do here is spout.

Seems some of you have your priorities wrong, lengthy process to sign up to blah blah and will not sign up for content.
:1orglaugh

Paul Markham 08-24-2003 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jimmyf


charly, I'd really rather not have to register. Usually I just move on. When I want to buy I will go shopping and do not need 2 know when new sets have come out, thank you very much.

Well if getting new sets is not important to you and you have the time to search for the needle in the haystack, then that is fine.

When I buy content, and I do, I buy the content that is right for my business. I don't give a shit about if the guy is a nice guy or an ass hole. I care about him having the right content I can resell and the right paperwork. The only things my clients care about.

Paul Markham 08-24-2003 12:35 AM

Very, very true Tootie. I've clicked on a link to a content providers site and seen a page of script and a banner and very little else. then they want me to sign up before they give me a clue what they have. That would piss me off.

We provide this http://www.paulmarkham.com/index2.php click on the catagories at the side menu to see what we have inside.

UnseenWorld 08-24-2003 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Loch

How about using the same username and pass for all the content stores?

You guys are making to much out of this.


No shit. Talk about something not worth losing any sleep over.

Zappu 08-24-2003 02:25 AM

The point is, try to buy some videos from a wholesaler in the offline buisiness. You have to confirm that you have the right to buy there by showing a legal copy of your company registration. Otherwise you can't get anything.
So, why should this be different to the net? The registration is not for us. It's for our cutomers, the webmasters. This is the only way to keep out most of the users of the content shop.

For e.g. at our shop (http://www.skan-media.net) you can see every photo of every set in org. quality and every video could be previewed in full length up to DSL quality (modem and ISDN also available). With more than 1.300.000 photos and 42.000 videos we are larger than some of the "big" adult sites. So why should a user sign up with a adult site, when he will get anything at our shop?

Think about this. If you like to do serious business, you have to follow some rules and what is the problem about to spend 30 seconds for registration? If you don't like this, I guess you also do not pay any tax :Graucho

And last but not least, you like to get a proof that the content is legal, why do you think we should not get a proof that you are also a legal business partner?

Zappu 08-24-2003 02:35 AM

@tootie

Quote:

who not only allows online licensing, but allows domains to be changed/added on the fly so that if I sell a domain and buy another one, it's easy to remove the old one and add the new myself. Any other providers I can get this service from that I can add to my list of favorites? If I remember correctly, Skan Media also does this. Others?
Yes, we are doing this form many years and you can also have upt to 999 different shopping baskets with your account and any photo of any set could be ordered as a single photo. Furhermore we not only give out licences for the nwt, you can get a licence for Partnerprograms, DVD, CD-Rom, SMS, MMS, TV, Print ...etc also during the checkout process

Kevin2 08-24-2003 04:03 AM

I have 2 stores and initialy both required registration even though you could view the content sets without registering.

At the request of a few webmasters I removed the registration on the one site to see what the benefit would be and in the past 8 months the 2 sites still sell the same.

twistyneck 08-24-2003 04:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM


From my content site: "Please register below with your email address and your chosen password. You will recieve a confirmation code via email within a few minutes."

If they are unable to read...as more than half are....then I do not need their business. More than 50% of the people who register for my site have their accounts terminated the same day they register. And as I said before...My sales do not appear to have been affected by my change in practices.

How come they get terminated Aaron? Are they just surfers or do they run shitty sites or what?

Loch 08-24-2003 04:54 AM

This thread still going on?
and as for the guy that called me a moren? :1orglaugh
why? for protecting my loyal clients?

I will say this though....
although you need to sign up to a lot of the stores out there instant access is a must!
but i find that most have that anyway.

P.S. all of you could have signed up with 50 providers now "atleast" and have bought almost exclusive content at 8 bucks cause us with regristration dont sell much :1orglaugh

Loch 08-24-2003 04:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by twistyneck


How come they get terminated Aaron? Are they just surfers or do they run shitty sites or what?

cause he find signups like this....

name: blaaaahhh
Company: HUH!!!!!
address: yes
Login name: freeshiiiiit

50% are surfers and the rest most likely very unprofessional webmasters.

Loch 08-24-2003 05:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tootie
I just wanted to comment because I too hate to register with content providers, but I do. I do when I feel it's worth it. I don't if I think it's a waste, and there may have been several times when I was wrong and could have found some great content and great prices.

I register with content providers that I KNOW have what I'm looking for, but I can't tell you how many content providers that I have visited that don't even show ANY samples before requiring registration, nor do they even tell you what kind of content they have inside!

If I am out searching for BBW pics, for example, there is no way I am going to register at a provider who has no BBW pics as samples on the outside and who doesn't even mention having BBW pics at all.

If content prodivers are going to require registration, they should at least have one non-nude or censored samples of every set they sell (outside the protected area) OR give a thorough description of every set, including how many pictures are in each set and what niches each set covers, including price. Just require registration to view uncensored samples I really would hate to waste my time registering for a content provider that only carries busty pornstar-type models ages 25-35 when I almost never use that type of content. I mean, it's a waste of my time and a waste of their resources.

Please, if you MUST require registration, be very detailed about the type of content that you have. And PLEASE make it worth the time to register by offering online licensing or something... at least let me know what you have before I sign up.

I certainly have no problems with registering for content providers that use the registration as a means of licensing because I know how easy it is to forget to return content licenses or to think you've returned yours and realize later you haven't and you have to send it in late. I've talked to quite a few people who have forgotten to mail in licenses and been contacted later, and having online licensing that you don't have to mail in later is SOOOOO helpful and much appreciated.

But please don't make me register just to "verify my age through my domain" or get me on your mailing list unless you've got some GOOD samples outside to give me reason to register and you maybe have online licensing.

Oh, one other thing...

Kudos to adultcontent.ca who not only allows online licensing, but allows domains to be changed/added on the fly so that if I sell a domain and buy another one, it's easy to remove the old one and add the new myself. Any other providers I can get this service from that I can add to my list of favorites? If I remember correctly, Skan Media also does this. Others?

Thanks to those of you who make content buying SO easy! :)

You besically descrived what we have done and are about to refine in our new site coming out soon.
Content purchases should be easy as hell, but with the prober documentation in order.

IMP^or^SNiTL.e 08-24-2003 05:19 AM

fuck loyalty, doesnt get you anywhere but jail

cheese 08-24-2003 06:18 AM

Bottom line is that most webmasters close the window and move on to the next content guy when reg. is required. I know I do: glugglug
You should at least have some previews then if webmasters likes what they see, maybe it'll be worth it.

SoBeGirl Video 08-24-2003 06:19 AM

You don't have to register at SoBeGirl.

I always thought it was a pain in the ass too and these guys just want your email address so they can do you know what.

I am sure that is what it is.

But when you have good stuff and good service customers will want to give you their info.

Here is my favorite site and no registration



:helpme

Fabuleux 08-24-2003 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly
The reason you have to log in is so the database recognises you. So you can add sets to your basket without buying at that moment, to stop you from buying twice, to show us how good a client you are and whether your deserve some freebies.

Also as Loch says it will also add your details to your license which is automatically generated.

On our site the log in process will remember who you are so you do not have to remember it. What's the problem?

Okay, let I put it this way. I don't mind to register AFTER I have seen what you've got to offer.

Loch 08-24-2003 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fabuleux


Okay, let I put it this way. I don't mind to register AFTER I have seen what you've got to offer.

Of cause not :thumbsup
Previews and info should be given.
We are not trying to keep you guys out :1orglaugh ( well not all of you)


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