Adult vs. Mainstream - GoFuckYourself.com

I Am The Walrus · 08-22-2003, 06:54 PM

Have you ever wondered why so many adult webmasters are trying to break into mainstream when an awful lot of mainstream webmasters / companies are trying to break into adult?

Just seems weird to me

TheJimmy · 08-22-2003, 06:55 PM

life in general is pretty weird...

GeXus · 08-22-2003, 06:55 PM

Of course it seems weird to you.. You Are An Idiot

Juicy D. Links · 08-22-2003, 06:56 PM

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Originally posted by GeXus
Of course it seems weird to you.. You Are An Idiot

He is way beyong an idiot

Amputate Your Head · 08-22-2003, 06:56 PM

simple: The grass is always greener on the other side.

I Am The Walrus · 08-22-2003, 06:58 PM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
simple: The grass is always greener on the other side.

Too true but you would have thought they would realize that if adult webmasters are going to mainstream then its not as profitable as it once way in pretty much the same way the adult companies should realize that mainstream wants to break into porn because well, mainstream just cant be that profitable either

KRL · 08-22-2003, 07:04 PM

There are a lot more opportunities in mainstream. Lots more places you can advertise. Way more money. Porn is a consistent money maker, but mainstream is where you can make the huge Internet $$$ pops.

Juicy D. Links · 08-22-2003, 07:07 PM

GrimShawn · 08-22-2003, 07:10 PM

BV · 08-22-2003, 07:15 PM

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Originally posted by KRL
but mainstream is where you can make the huge Internet $$$ pops.

Do you have some examples because I can't see it.

KRL · 08-22-2003, 08:30 PM

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Originally posted by BV

Do you have some examples because I can't see it.

Sorry, but I keep the mainstream miles apart from porno land.

maxjohan · 08-22-2003, 08:44 PM

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Originally posted by I Am The Walrus

Too true but you would have thought they would realize that if adult webmasters are going to mainstream then its not as profitable as it once way in pretty much the same way the adult companies should realize that mainstream wants to break into porn because well, mainstream just cant be that profitable either

You know what you are talking about, right?

Techie Media · 08-22-2003, 08:44 PM

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Originally posted by I Am The Walrus

Too true but you would have thought they would realize that if adult webmasters are going to mainstream then its not as profitable as it once way in pretty much the same way the adult companies should realize that mainstream wants to break into porn because well, mainstream just cant be that profitable either

That is not totally true.....

Diversity can be a very good thing, don't put all your eggs in one basket..

maxjohan · 08-22-2003, 08:48 PM

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Originally posted by KRL
There are a lot more opportunities in mainstream. Lots more places you can advertise. Way more money. Porn is a consistent money maker, but mainstream is where you can make the huge Internet $$$ pops.

yeah, you can use those recommend a friend buttons with much better results,

BV · 08-22-2003, 10:09 PM

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Originally posted by KRL

Sorry, but I keep the mainstream miles apart from porno land.

I didn't think there were any examples

Cheers,
BV

lexr · 08-22-2003, 10:09 PM

Mainstream is nowhere near as fun as adult, though.

KMR Stitch · 08-22-2003, 10:12 PM

This guy gets flammed more then anyone on the board...

Does he really know what he is talking about?

All I hear is "ARK ARK ARK ARK"

slapass · 08-22-2003, 10:16 PM

What KRL said. Porn is a little back water.

BV · 08-22-2003, 10:20 PM

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Originally posted by slapass
What KRL said. Porn is a little back water.

so what mainstream companies are making big bucks?

gambling? games? what?

maxjohan · 08-22-2003, 10:20 PM

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Originally posted by slapass
What KRL said. Porn is a little back water.

what about me said

Webby · 08-22-2003, 10:22 PM

KRL:

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Porn is a consistent money maker, but mainstream is where you can make the huge Internet $$$ pops.

Yup!

Shaggy · 08-22-2003, 10:27 PM

I took what I learned from adult and now dominate in every search engine and make 30k a month from mainstream stuff. The pour fucks don't have a clue about anything. Adult to mainstream makes more sense than the other.

Shaggy · 08-22-2003, 10:29 PM

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Originally posted by lexr
Mainstream is nowhere near as fun as adult, though.

Mainstream is when you're buying a new 350z and a new house and filling it to the brim with furniture over a short period of time.

BV · 08-22-2003, 10:30 PM

Are we talking sales?

BV · 08-22-2003, 10:34 PM

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Originally posted by Shaggy
I took what I learned from adult and now dominate in every search engine and make 30k a month from mainstream stuff. The pour fucks don't have a clue about anything. Adult to mainstream makes more sense than the other.

If that was true I don't think you'd be blabbing it off around here. If it is true you just made a mistake.

Shaggy · 08-22-2003, 10:51 PM

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Originally posted by BV

If that was true I don't think you'd be blabbing it off around here. If it is true you just made a mistake.

If you're calling me a liar, I'll show you my batch for the day and Fridays are slow. My processor calls me every week to make sure things are well and all it takes is 2500 people to my site a day. Thing is, those people are worth a shit load more than any fucking adult hit. It's like having 2500 people come into a sporting goods store or something, that's a lot of people and don't tell me they wouldn't make 30k a month off of that.

Also, if you aren't manufacturing or having something manufactured than you are 3rd or 4th on the list and that would make things hard and make profit margins slim.

I don't care if I tell people here they can make good money on mainstream. I didn't tell them what I sell. It's just a fact and life is good now.

Hint, I have what I sell manufactured and it took a lot of scratch and 6 years of webmaster experience to do it right. Keep trucking, you'll get there someday.

p.s. that doesn't include my paysite revenue.

hyper · 08-22-2003, 10:55 PM

you should be in both.

there are marketing techniques in Mainstream that work wonders for Porn and vice versa..

Shaggy · 08-22-2003, 11:01 PM

also, take a second to think about it. If you have any se placement skills you would know that there are millions upon millions of adult pages, and if you are niche mainstream you have 50-100 competitors. duh, think about it!

the indigo · 08-22-2003, 11:08 PM

Well, is it worth the time to learn SE if all SEs turn pay per click in the next 2 years?

Theo · 08-22-2003, 11:09 PM

mainstream is the world
adult is just an exotic island

BV · 08-22-2003, 11:13 PM

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Originally posted by Shaggy

If you're calling me a liar, I'll show you my batch for the day and Fridays are slow. My processor calls me every week to make sure things are well and all it takes is 2500 people to my site a day. Thing is, those people are worth a shit load more than any fucking adult hit. It's like having 2500 people come into a sporting goods store or something, that's a lot of people and don't tell me they wouldn't make 30k a month off of that.

Also, if you aren't manufacturing or having something manufactured than you are 3rd or 4th on the list and that would make things hard and make profit margins slim.

I don't care if I tell people here they can make good money on mainstream. I didn't tell them what I sell. It's just a fact and life is good now.

Hint, I have what I sell manufactured and it took a lot of scratch and 6 years of webmaster experience to do it right. Keep trucking, you'll get there someday.

p.s. that doesn't include my paysite revenue.

If I was calling you a liar I would not have written the second sentence.

Congrats, 30k profit a month is not too shabby. What's your gross sales per year?

Oh, and for the record, I am already where I need to be in my mainstream sales, however they are not web related. 7 figures a year in gross sales and it takes about 1 hour a week of my time.

Cheers,
BV

TheJimmy · 08-22-2003, 11:20 PM

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Originally posted by BV

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Oh, and for the record, I am already where I need to be in my mainstream sales, however they are not web related. 7 figures a year in gross sales and it takes about 1 hour a week of my time.

Cheers,
BV

examples?

;-)

and congrats on those nice numbers...

BV · 08-22-2003, 11:35 PM

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Originally posted by TheJimmy

examples?

;-)

and congrats on those nice numbers...

Thanks, this week wasn't too bad:
http://www.bikinivoyeur.com/report.html

I Am The Walrus · 08-22-2003, 11:39 PM

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Originally posted by BV

Thanks, this week wasn't too bad:
http://www.bikinivoyeur.com/report.html

Wow you made a html page for us

With the same invoice number used twice - with different dollar amounts

08/14/2003 Invoice 9549 FLORIMEX B.V. SALAL TIPS (25) 350.00 21.00 7350.00 7,350.00

08/14/2003 Invoice 9549 FLORIMEX B.V. SALAL TIPS (25) 496.00 20.00 9920.00 17,270.00

WTG Retard

BV · 08-22-2003, 11:51 PM

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Originally posted by I Am The Walrus

Wow you made a html page for us

With the same invoice number used twice - with different dollar amounts

08/14/2003 Invoice 9549 FLORIMEX B.V. SALAL TIPS (25) 350.00 21.00 7350.00 7,350.00

08/14/2003 Invoice 9549 FLORIMEX B.V. SALAL TIPS (25) 496.00 20.00 9920.00 17,270.00

WTG Retard

lol, you missed invoice 9553, it's listed twice as well because Mini Tips are a different product on the same invoice. On invoice 9549 SALAL TIPS are listed twice because I billed my customer $21 for some and $20 for the remainder of the container load. I can back this shit up any way you want so put your money where your mouth is ass wipe. I'll bet any amount of money you want.

Cheers,
BV

08-22-2003, 06:54 PM	#1
I Am The Walrus Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,000	Adult vs. Mainstream Have you ever wondered why so many adult webmasters are trying to break into mainstream when an awful lot of mainstream webmasters / companies are trying to break into adult? Just seems weird to me

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lexr Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 428	Mainstream is nowhere near as fun as adult, though.

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KMR Stitch I am cool Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 14,494	This guy gets flammed more then anyone on the board... Does he really know what he is talking about? All I hear is "ARK ARK ARK ARK"

08-22-2003, 10:16 PM	#18
slapass Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 14,622	What KRL said. Porn is a little back water.

08-22-2003, 10:27 PM	#22
Shaggy Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: USA Posts: 570	I took what I learned from adult and now dominate in every search engine and make 30k a month from mainstream stuff. The pour fucks don't have a clue about anything. Adult to mainstream makes more sense than the other.

08-22-2003, 10:30 PM	#24
BV wtf Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Bikini State, FL USA Posts: 10,914	Are we talking sales?

08-22-2003, 10:55 PM	#27
hyper Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mass Ass Posts: 5,294	you should be in both. there are marketing techniques in Mainstream that work wonders for Porn and vice versa.. __________________

08-22-2003, 11:01 PM	#28
Shaggy Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: USA Posts: 570	also, take a second to think about it. If you have any se placement skills you would know that there are millions upon millions of adult pages, and if you are niche mainstream you have 50-100 competitors. duh, think about it!

08-22-2003, 11:08 PM	#29
the indigo Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: North America Posts: 2,016	Well, is it worth the time to learn SE if all SEs turn pay per click in the next 2 years?

08-22-2003, 11:09 PM	#30
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	mainstream is the world adult is just an exotic island