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Old 08-19-2003, 06:39 AM   #1
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programs using ibill as primary procesor...

Hi im looking for programs using ibill as primary processor

1) with trials 1.$ (better free)
2) more than 5 sites to promote
3) wire or paypal

I can promise 15 to 30 signups/day

im going to give a try to all the programs...
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Old 08-19-2003, 07:26 AM   #2
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Old 08-19-2003, 07:46 AM   #3
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Hi im looking for programs using ibill as primary processor

1) with trials 1.$ (better free)
2) more than 5 sites to promote
3) wire or paypal

I can promise 15 to 30 signups/day

im going to give a try to all the programs...
1) only have $2.95 trials with iBill
2) 478 sites to promote
3) we do wire and paypal

Plus if you do that many sign ups, we can do special deals that you will be very pleased with

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Old 08-19-2003, 07:48 AM   #4
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Old 08-19-2003, 09:01 AM   #5
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soulcash im going to give them a try with your reff code... buy im looking for some one with cheap trials... 1$ or so.
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Old 08-19-2003, 09:07 AM   #6
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hardprofits - you have the weirdest join form i have seen in months.... i really like your program if you can give me direct links to the ibill join page or something less tricky i can send you some test trafficc... when customers sees a lot of options they dont know what to do i dont like it, i know its a waste of trafficc that way.
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Old 08-19-2003, 09:09 AM   #7
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May I ask why you prefer IBILL?
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Old 08-19-2003, 09:12 AM   #8
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Pussycash (see sig) have ibill as the primary processor. 5 hardcore dating sites, great webcam site, boob site, sex portal and a gay site. Trials are 3.95 though but worth a look
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Old 08-19-2003, 09:17 AM   #9
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im now using trafficcash (ibill) im with 20/30 signups a day... when i send the same trafficc to paycom or ccbill it converts to 5 or 6 signups day ... why? i dont know and i really want to know it...
and why im not going to use trafficcash any more? because the last 5 days my signups have droped from 30 to 0 with the same trafficc , i know they have something wrong in their stats because this is not normal and im not the only one with that problem... i can take like a normal situation a drop of 5 or 10 incl 15 signups but not from one day to another 0 signups, thats not normal.
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Old 08-19-2003, 10:13 AM   #10
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We can send your traffic to ibill primary. We have 5 sites now and 3 more by the end of the week.

We can send you to pretty much any biller you want, as well as our own mids. We can switch it based on who is converting better that day or whatever parameters you set up.

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Old 08-19-2003, 02:10 PM   #11
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hardprofits - you have the weirdest join form i have seen in months.... i really like your program if you can give me direct links to the ibill join page or something less tricky i can send you some test trafficc... when customers sees a lot of options they dont know what to do i dont like it, i know its a waste of trafficc that way.
we can set join pages direct to iBill if you like, and we would do it when the MasterCard change over kicks in

But we would only do this if you could indeed do the signups you say you are doing

my icq is in my sig, and I would be happy to chat with you about all the possibilities and what types of sites you need set up

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Old 08-19-2003, 02:14 PM   #12
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We have $2 trial options that we typically only use for cross-sell... but take a look at our program and if you want to give us a shot, I'll set up $2 trials for whichever sites you want to promote.
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Old 08-20-2003, 02:18 AM   #13
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Check us out, I'm sure you will be more then Happy with the numbers.
All our sites are $3.95 trial and we are useing Ibill as Primary.
Let me know if you need any special creative as well.
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Old 08-20-2003, 03:25 AM   #14
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Old 08-20-2003, 05:21 AM   #16
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I-bill allows more transactions because they want the bigger companies business. Doing so, put's more high-risk transactions through I-bill. Why they offered us 6-8%.

Jump around and join some I-bill sites, here are some things you will notice.

1) On some when you call in I-bill for support, they wont even let you cancel your membership. You have to contact the paysite owners. So I did, with no responce within 24 hours. It took 72 and I e-mailed on a Monday. My trial already converted. Finally I-bill canceled me but...

Oh ya The cancel form on the I-bill site said I had no transactions with I-bill under that card.. Odd, I only have one CC.

2) Cancel, and you will get rebilled anyway. I did 6 different times over a 1 year period. I had to cancel my card.

3) Rebills.. Hell, this is easy. If you have a new master account. Send 100 joins to it under a webmaster ID. Make sure each person has access by hand.

Wait till the rebills start. A few things you will notice.

1) After some of the members cancel, they will still have access to your site. Ibill wont tell you they quit.

2) They cancel and they don't have access and they are not in your system. Yet, you will get a chargeback for $50 when the person only joined for for a trial (via stats).. Oh ya, you will notice you only got paid for the trial.

They lose around 5% of all rebills under a master account but they will still rebill them. You wont get the cash.

Web900, what a world class fuck up. Do your own support and watch the class act fuckup that web900 is. Ever notice that members will e-mail and give you pincodes, that are not in the system, yet the member was billed and you never saw the credit.. Ya it's a bitch to deal with.

Ever notice how often I-bill will double bill people?

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Please note: We have tested almost every major processor. We have found issues with every single one of them. I-bill is just the largest collection of fuckups. More than all others combinded.

Call different reps and ask each of them to e-mail you your CB ratio. hehe funny results if they day is correct You may get 2 or 3 different answers.

Epoch, CCbill, etc. Do scrub much harder, but our CB ratio is from .3 to .4% with them and is always steady month after month.
(I assume jettis but we have ever tested them)

Both companies provide kick ass support for members.

As well, both do things I do not agree with but are still better than the best parts of I-bill.
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Old 08-20-2003, 05:42 AM   #17
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"I-bill allows more transactions because they want the bigger companies business."

then im right.webmasters mades more money with a sponsor using ibill as a primary processor....

anyone more using ibill? who have still with free trials?
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Old 08-20-2003, 05:46 AM   #18
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"I-bill allows more transactions because they want the bigger companies business."

then im right.webmasters mades more money with a sponsor using ibill as a primary processor....

anyone more using ibill? who have still with free trials?
And people wonder why VISA is going off on the online industry.

What goes around comes around.
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Old 08-20-2003, 05:54 AM   #19
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"I-bill allows more transactions because they want the bigger companies business."

then im right.webmasters mades more money with a sponsor using ibill as a primary processor....

anyone more using ibill? who have still with free trials?
Silly amateur.. Just because they don't scrub as hard does not mean you can't make as much money with another sponsor, if the sponsor has his shit together.

Then you can promote a compny and be safe that you will have your money 6 months from now.

Scrub % differences are not so large that you will see a major conversion ratio drop. Things like alternate billing options, better tracking and an honest program will do the trick every time.

Learn to convert your traffic rather than trying to find the easy way out.
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Old 08-20-2003, 05:57 AM   #20
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IBill are the reason for our industry fuckups. Sure you get more rebills ... but .... thats not such a good thing. Sites that rip the surfer off love IBill.
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