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IMP^or^SNiTL.e · 08-20-2003, 11:56 PM

nah too tacky

NBDesign · 08-20-2003, 11:56 PM

Shit... beat me to it.

ok... one more 50!

SomeCreep · 08-20-2003, 11:57 PM

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Originally posted by NBDesign
ok... one more 50!

You sir are 51

FTVGirls · 08-20-2003, 11:59 PM

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Originally posted by POV Porn guy

I will hunt you down like the bitch dog that you wish that you were good enough to be and make you my girlfriend.

You didnt answer my question:

POV Porn Guy = Roy Garcia?

hahaaaaaaa

Peter Romero · 08-21-2003, 12:03 AM

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Originally posted by FTVGirls

You didnt answer my question:

POV Porn Guy = Roy Garcia?

hahaaaaaaa

So... you know and posted my name. So what bitch, If your 2257 papers are in order then anyone can get your name... so since you are a chickenshit... let me do it for you before you get banned for violating the rules of this board. I'll be right back - BITCH!

FTVGirls · 08-21-2003, 12:07 AM

naww... Im being sarcastic to you because of your hypocrisy on this post. You are not that different from Ugly Joe, you've just been around longer.

ie. your character does not make for much of a better rep in this industry....

NBDesign · 08-21-2003, 12:10 AM

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Originally posted by SomeCreep

You sir are 51

Yep... saw that lol

Peter Romero · 08-21-2003, 12:10 AM

Wrong! Your fake 2257 compliant notice is in violation of the law:
1. You cannot have another person besides the producer be the custodian of records
2. You cannot use a PO box as a storage space for records.
3. You cannot have a company be the custodian of records.
4. There are no 7 story buildings in the middle of the desert in that area so don't lie about it... BITCH!!!

I could just drive to Arizona take a picture of your PO box and prove to the feds that you are in blatant violation of 2257 compliance law and get you sent to prison or you could NEVER Post my name here again - BITCH!!!!

NBDesign · 08-21-2003, 12:12 AM

Boys... boys... start a new thread... this is a bash Uglyjoe thread... Let's not loose focus here...

FTVGirls · 08-21-2003, 12:17 AM

Ive found a new way to spend my time inbetween video processing.....

Anyways my friend, you are wrong on your assumption on your 3 items. Your point is coming across however, I know you to be a 35-40 something fellow, but whom acts like a teen.

Youre the classic example of what is called 'perv turned amateur photographer just to get some'

Peter Romero · 08-21-2003, 12:17 AM

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Originally posted by FTVGirls
naww... Im being sarcastic to you because of your hypocrisy on this post. You are not that different from Ugly Joe, you've just been around longer.

ie. your character does not make for much of a better rep in this industry....

1. I think up my own ideas - not copy them.
2. I pay girls to shoot - not trick them. AND HAVE WRITEN & VIDEO PROOF!
3. I shoot in the oposite direction of the light not into it.
4. I use my own purchased music... not stolen copywriten stuff like on his lame ass site.
5. I focus the camera on the girl, not an extreme close up of her ass-crack.
6. I owned you in the last post, now, go get busy before I get there tommorow and ruin your day by taking a picture of your fake 2257 storage PO Box. BITCH!!!

Peter Romero · 08-21-2003, 12:21 AM

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Originally posted by FTVGirls
Ive found a new way to spend my time inbetween video processing.....

Anyways my friend, you are wrong on your assumption on your 3 items. Your point is coming across however, I know you to be a 35-40 something fellow, but whom acts like a teen.

Youre the classic example of what is called 'perv turned amateur photographer just to get some'

You make sure that you use my Playgirl centerfold, mainstream modeling portfolio and "Pitch super hot stripper girls" skills & my charm to drive that point across next time little boy. See you in the morning.

FTVGirls · 08-21-2003, 12:30 AM

It takes about 5 mins for each video clip to run through so give me 5 mins per post reply thanks

Roy, I'd be happy for you to come and visit me in my box (sorry I cant afford anything bigger just yet) -- Believe it or not, I always wanted to see who you were in person, just out of curiousity.

Ugly Joe, I make no comment about; I dont know him; though Steve Lightspeed's word carries a lot of weight, and to me what he says is pretty much word.

I know enough about you however, from what too many models have told me.

Peter Romero · 08-21-2003, 12:38 AM

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Originally posted by FTVGirls
It takes about 5 mins for each video clip to run through so give me 5 mins per post reply thanks

Roy, I'd be happy for you to come and visit me in my box (sorry I cant afford anything bigger just yet) -- Believe it or not, I always wanted to see who you were in person, just out of curiousity.

Ugly Joe, I make no comment about; I dont know him; though Steve Lightspeed's word carries a lot of weight, and to me what he says is pretty much word.

I know enough about you however, from what too many models have told me.

I fear no-one and especially not a porn company. If you wanna know what i look like then just imagine a 6 foot tall 230 pound athlete powerlifter who is a little overweight from dealing with too many idiots like you that spent most of my life as a fitness model, stripper & bodyguard. Can't wait to meet you - change your sig or I'll post a picture of your PO Box - I don't play.

FTVGirls · 08-21-2003, 12:50 AM

I thought you went to sleep?

I'm 5'7, 155 pounds.

-- thats the only smiley Icon I could find that was close enough to express my fear.

So you would actually come drive down, 6 hours, from LA to take pictures? Well at least stay at my place for a while, if you dont like me, you can stay at Steve Lightspeeds place.

My place is much more exciting though, I have lots of hot pictures lying around.

Peter Romero · 08-21-2003, 12:51 AM

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Originally posted by FTVGirls
I thought you went to sleep?

I'm 5'7, 155 pounds. -- thats the only smiley Icon I could find that was close enough to express my fear.

So you would actually come drive down, 6 hours, from LA to take pictures? Well at least stay at my place for a while, if you dont like me, you can stay at Steve Lightspeeds place.

My place is much more exciting though, I have lots of hot pictures lying around.

Still on dial-up eh?

FTVGirls · 08-21-2003, 12:58 AM

yeah, this place doesnt have dsl or cable yet.

Peter Romero · 08-21-2003, 01:03 AM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by FTVGirls
yeah, this place doesnt have dsl or cable yet. [/QUOTE

Small time

FTVGirls · 08-21-2003, 01:08 AM

yeah

Peter Romero · 08-21-2003, 01:38 AM

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Originally posted by FTVGirls
yeah

You know what??? You don't know me, so don't act like you do. I never met you and you have no clue who I am because a few models talked shit. Models? Reliable? Known to tell the truth? Think about that next time that they call you when you are sitting on your ass on location - and it's 2 hours later than the call time, with an outrageous story of pain & torment - that you just HAVE TO believe because there is no-one readily available to replace them - while you burn light and pay assistants, make-up artists, and location fees. Tell me then how much truth comes out of thier wacked out heads, and don't judge me till you've walked a mile in my moccasins. You've been riding me for no reason since I got to this board - what's your problem? Penis Envy?

jimmy3way · 08-21-2003, 01:49 AM

Nice pissing match...but more on topic:

Can you imagine how much Ugly Joe had to pay to put 'Pretty Fly for a White Guy' in that video????

Peter Romero · 08-21-2003, 01:56 AM

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Originally posted by jimmy3way
Nice pissing match...but more on topic:

Can you imagine how much Ugly Joe had to pay to put 'Pretty Fly for a White Guy' in that video????

exactly!

jimmy3way · 08-21-2003, 01:57 AM

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Originally posted by POV Porn guy
Wrong! Your fake 2257 compliant notice is in violation of the law:
1. You cannot have another person besides the producer be the custodian of records
2. You cannot use a PO box as a storage space for records.
3. You cannot have a company be the custodian of records.
4. There are no 7 story buildings in the middle of the desert in that area so don't lie about it... BITCH!!!

I could just drive to Arizona take a picture of your PO box and prove to the feds that you are in blatant violation of 2257 compliance law and get you sent to prison or you could NEVER Post my name here again - BITCH!!!!

It's obviously not a PO Box, it's an apartment.

There are many seven story buildings in the desert, and some in that area.

Why drive to Arizona? The last thing we need is more fucking Californians here.

Peter Romero · 08-21-2003, 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jimmy3way

It's obviously not a PO Box, it's an apartment.

There are many seven story buildings in the desert, and some in that area.

Why drive to Arizona? The last thing we need is more fucking Californians here.

Thanks! I owe you a few burgers and 2 tanks of gas.

TheViper · 08-21-2003, 04:36 AM

POV Porn guy

It is easy to act like a tough mofo behind your pc, face it dude, ur nothing more than a big internet mouth.

lagwagon · 08-21-2003, 04:47 AM

what the fuck happened in this thread? dayum who wants a hug?

bitch_in_heat · 08-21-2003, 11:31 AM

Let me explain something; I don't work for him, I don't know him, but if that is all that your little brain can think to justify all that you're saying then fine. I work for myself and it's not as a <U>paid</U> or <U>unpaid</U> whore. I own a media company located in Phoenix.

Just think, this whole thing started because you 'guys' couldn't take someone telling you to be professional. Some day, when you all grow up, then you will realize the importance of keeping 'business contacts' no matter if you like or approve of their methods. If you don't like someone personally then fine, but don't bash company. Show some maturity...

As for [email protected] emailing me and telling me, "Suck it Bitch". You are taking this way to personal, this is the reason why I don't like to hire unknown people from a board to do work for my company. You really don't know what kind of people you're getting. Which was my main reason for coming here in the first place, I was looking for someone (which also explains why I have so little posts). Just as I told rgarcia, I take being called a bitch as a complement because I am way above the little people like you. "Eat me bastard" would be the equivalent to your statement. Yes?

If the ones that feel malice towards this UglyJoe ever would like to icq me and explain in depth why they feel this way, I am more than willing to listen. Curious even, then maybe I could understand why, but until then, as I said...the site looks nice. Great job. You are one of my considerations for my project. I hope you can do programming as well, we'll talk.

You all have a wonderful day, I'm tired of this...as I said, ICQ me if you feel like spilling and making me understand more in depth.

Bitch In Heat

PS: It is a PO Box, it's for mailing shit and receiving mail. Sheez, I thought you could do better. Records are stored at place of business unless they are over a year old, then they are stored at a special location for a period of 3 years. Good try though.

meggie7801 · 08-22-2003, 02:13 PM

OK I am the girl NBDesign was referring to who also worked for Ugly Joe.
(BTW, Hi! NBDesign ? Lost my cell which had your # in it ? been dying to contact you but never seem to be online at the same time. Please call me again!!)

I have to agree with every thing NB and Lightspeed have said. I usually don?t chime in on this type of stuff and don?t hold grudges. But this is one of those times you just don?t want to see what happened to you happen to someone else.

I unfortunately worked there MUCH longer and at the same time as NB.

Not paying the girls is probably the nicest thing he does to them.

This is not by any means his only scam either.

This is only my 2 cents! I just hate it when there are a handful of people in this industry who make the rest of us look bad.

Megan

meggie7801 · 08-22-2003, 02:27 PM

[QUOTE]
If the ones that feel malice towards this UglyJoe ever would like to icq me and explain in depth why they feel this way, I am more than willing to listen. Curious even, then maybe I could understand why, but until then, as I said...the site looks nice. Great job. You are one of my considerations for my project. I hope you can do programming as well, we'll talk.[QUOTE]

Actually he doesn't do programming. He is just the front guy. He hire?s designers. (Hence myself and NB working for him) The one who designed that isn't being paid right now (I think it's been about a month since he has been paid) so I am sure you could offer him a job and he would jump at it.

Maybe he would like to post on this board???

Megan

uglyjoe · 08-22-2003, 03:04 PM

This is James at www.UglyJoes.com.

I am a photographer not a web designer but right now I am really fuckin pissed off.

#1 The piece of shit at NB Design is pissed off because I fired his ass. His name is John and I will be more than happy to disclose who he really is if he keeps up this BS.

#2 It is true..I do not pay any girls for shooting. Guess what, most photographers don't. I exchange photographs for content and I have my designer build girls personal websites (see www.GirlsThatRock.com).

Every girl sign a Models Release form and agees to shoot solo girl, girl/girl, or girl/guy or all. They need the content for their website. I need the contecnt for www.UglyJoes.com.

All you motherfuckers who are slamming me for not paying my girls better get a grip on reality. As I told Steve at Lightspeed, if your paying a girl to suck your cock and to fuck you....you are flirting with prostitution.

I am not going to pay a model for these services...and guess what...they are happy because I do:

a) Get them work in LA through a dozen diff photogs and agencies I'ver worked with since 1982.

b) Give them professional photo's (8x10's) that they can add to their Model's portfolio or show "Mom & Dad"

c) Get them modelng jobs here in Phoenix with other webmasters that DO PAY for content....

John at NBDesign, you say I wanted you to do a copy of Bang Bus? What kind of shit is that? Show me something, anything that ever is even remotely close to resembling that type of convo.
It is not even worth discussing it is so assinine.

And Steve at Lightspeed, so you're pissed that I shot two of your exclusive Models that did not disclose they were exclusive. And, if they were exclusive why were they willing to shoot nude with me? That is an issue with them not me.

Next, to say you (Steve) have checked up on me and "I am not legit...fuck you. I am 1,000 times more legit than you when it comes to photography. I have girls on Playboy TV, do you? I have girls with World in LA do you? I have a girl that was published in Maxim magazine, do you? And, I dated one of my models that was a Penthouse Pet of the YEAR...have you?

Until yesterday I respected you for what you have done in this industry...the $1,000,000 club is very exclusive. But I have to tell you, saying I'm scamming models is bullshit and your ego should not be so big that you are jealous that someone else in Phoenix just might be getting better talent than you. Maybe your weiner is short and mine isn't..is that why your really mad?

Up until yesterday, based on a phone call you and I had, you were asking me about my supply of girls, and were saying that you could not find good talent.

I have invited you to my studio, yes I have a 2400' studio - I don't shoot out of a barn, basement or "sleazy" apartment, and you said you would swing by after a LA trip.

In fact, ANY WEBMASTER that comes to Phoenix is welcome to stop by. The guys I have met in person, Scott at SweetApples, Paul at AmateurAllure, Bill at DrunkSpringBreakGirls, and many other local webmasters can tell you...I am not a fuckin "scammer".

Funny thing is, it is one "guy" that is saying shit because I fuckin fired his ass. I have over 100 movies on my site and more girls come back for multiple shoots than those that don't. My models like me enough to come back for portfolio shoots, their personal website design, and for YES (shock) more Ugly Joe scenes...gasp!

And yeah Steve, both your "exclusive" models Brandy and Emily came back twice! Sorry Bro, like I told you on the phone, if I had known I wouldn't have shot them. And, I will not shoot any of your exclusive girls as long as I know they are exclusive. That is common courtesy in the real world of Photography.

I invite anyone to stop by at any time, I'll give you my studio location off line for those that want to meet me (UglyJoe). Come by and meet the TERROR...and I'm not even "that" ugly.

James
www.UglyJoes.com

SureFire · 08-22-2003, 04:55 PM

Interesting thread!

Uglyjoe, good luck with your site. The video trailers look good and load-up quickly on a DSL connection. Hope everything works out between you and Lightspeed.

Ic3m4nZ · 08-22-2003, 05:04 PM

Good luck with ur site..

SLY1 · 08-22-2003, 05:05 PM

OneHungLo · 08-22-2003, 05:31 PM

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Originally posted by POV Porn guy
He's a copycat bitch. See www.netvideogirls.com & www.povporn.com
He's a shitty videographer (Shooting into the light, extreme close-ups)
He uses copywriten music - OOPS!!!
and...
there's only 4 girls on the site - pathetic.

I wanted to stay out of this yesterday and be spiritual, but I can't take it anymore.

can you point out how he copied you?

JamesK · 08-22-2003, 05:34 PM

uglyjoe officially owned everyone in this thread

SteveLightspeed · 08-24-2003, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by uglyjoe
#2 It is true..I do not pay any girls for shooting. Guess what, most photographers don't. I exchange photographs for content and I have my designer build girls personal websites (see www.GirlsThatRock.com).

Every girl sign a Models Release form and agees to shoot solo girl, girl/girl, or girl/guy or all. They need the content for their website. I need the contecnt for www.UglyJoes.com.

All you motherfuckers who are slamming me for not paying my girls better get a grip on reality. As I told Steve at Lightspeed, if your paying a girl to suck your cock and to fuck you....you are flirting with prostitution.

I am not going to pay a model for these services...and guess what...they are happy because I do:

a) Get them work in LA through a dozen diff photogs and agencies I'ver worked with since 1982.

b) Give them professional photo's (8x10's) that they can add to their Model's portfolio or show "Mom & Dad"

c) Get them modelng jobs here in Phoenix with other webmasters that DO PAY for content....

Dude, you are a true piece of shit.

1) You don't pay your girls. That is fucked up. They get nothing from you except ripped off and a distrust for all photographers.

2) Thanks for showing me that page. I know lots of those girls, and now that they know where their pictures are, I expect they will just send boyfriends and dads over to kick your ass.

3) You get them modeling jobs? I hire girls every day. How is it if you are trying to "Get them modelng jobs here in Phoenix with other webmasters that DO PAY for content" that the only girl you've ever showed me was a little crackwhore from russia that never shot before, and acted like she was being forced and ready to cry?

Yeah, I was willing to work with you, until I talked to several models you have worked with that told me you ripped them off, got them NO WORK, no MONEY, and now they see themselves on your sites.

But now, no thanks. I'm just glad our girls find me before they find you.

FUCK YOU SCAMMER

Steve Lightspeed

bitch_in_heat · 08-25-2003, 12:55 AM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by meggie7801
[QUOTE]
If the ones that feel malice towards this UglyJoe ever would like to icq me and explain in depth why they feel this way, I am more than willing to listen. Curious even, then maybe I could understand why, but until then, as I said...the site looks nice. Great job. You are one of my considerations for my project. I hope you can do programming as well, we'll talk.

Quote:

Actually he doesn't do programming. He is just the front guy. He hire?s designers. (Hence myself and NB working for him) The one who designed that isn't being paid right now (I think it's been about a month since he has been paid) so I am sure you could offer him a job and he would jump at it.

Maybe he would like to post on this board???

Megan

Hey Megan,

Just a word of advice, check your sources before they make an ass out of you.

I know for a fact that this guy who's been working for him has been paid, and it has been over a month that he's been there AND getting paid (***gasp!***). I know to whom I am speaking when I said I was considering the web developer for a short contract gig. You see, I do my homework. Ciao!

Bitch In Heat

bitch_in_heat · 08-25-2003, 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lightspeed

Dude, you are a true piece of shit.

1) You don't pay your girls. That is fucked up. They get nothing from you except ripped off and a distrust for all photographers.

2) Thanks for showing me that page. I know lots of those girls, and now that they know where their pictures are, I expect they will just send boyfriends and dads over to kick your ass.

3) You get them modeling jobs? I hire girls every day. How is it if you are trying to "Get them modelng jobs here in Phoenix with other webmasters that DO PAY for content" that the only girl you've ever showed me was a little crackwhore from russia that never shot before, and acted like she was being forced and ready to cry?

Yeah, I was willing to work with you, until I talked to several models you have worked with that told me you ripped them off, got them NO WORK, no MONEY, and now they see themselves on your sites.

But now, no thanks. I'm just glad our girls find me before they find you.

FUCK YOU SCAMMER

Steve Lightspeed

Hey Steve "Dude",

If my dad ever caught me doing that, he would kill me, not the photographer. I definately would not send my dad. As for the boyfriend, well, I imagine that he would probably be the one dropping her off and I'm sure that he already knows. Unless of course, you are saying that men really are that stupid?.

And, as far as you saying "FUCK YOU SCAMMER"...you have already hurt yourself by doing this shit on this thread. It's funny how fast word travels. Why don't you just roll belly up and pee all over yourself? I find your antics childish and unprofessional Steve Lightspeed.

It's ok to call me a bitch (or whatever) if you want, I don't mind. I laugh at you and I am laughing along with many others.

Ciao Baby!

Bitch In Heat

uglyjoe · 08-25-2003, 11:28 AM

Steve,

#1 You have my phone number...
#2 When a girl signs a Release Form that states she "Agrees to do a Girl/Guy shoot with photographer" in trade for creating her personal website, you really think she is surprised that I post her on the internet?

This really isn't about you being upset that I don't pay girls up front money..it is the fact you are worried that a girl will leave here and never want to do adult modeling ever again because the "scammer" tricked her into getting naked!!!

Guess what? That is why they sign the Release Form saying they want to do an explicit girl/guy nude scene. They like sucking cock you idiot. No good girl will suck cock FOR ANY AMOUNT OF MONEY..much less for free.

Plus, they get professional photos and they get work, paying work, once I put them up.

Everyone wins. So what is your beef? If you need girls I got 'em...about 350 so far. And guess what else? A lot of the Good Girls don't get naked. THEY PAY ME to shoot their portfolio!

How about that? You're paying them, their paying me.

Anyway, like I said, you have no "case" or validity to your concern, if it truly is about "not paying my models."

I believe the real truth is I'm getting Hot Girls...but I'm willing to share.... if you ask nicely.

PS-Ugly Moe (see signature) is my web designer..I'm borowing his IRQ 'cause I'm too busy getting blow jobs to get my own.

xoxox
Ugly Joe
www.UglyJoe.com

SteveLightspeed · 08-25-2003, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by uglyjoe
Steve,

#1 You have my phone number...
#2 When a girl signs a Release Form that states she "Agrees to do a Girl/Guy shoot with photographer" in trade for creating her personal website, you really think she is surprised that I post her on the internet?

This really isn't about you being upset that I don't pay girls up front money..it is the fact you are worried that a girl will leave here and never want to do adult modeling ever again because the "scammer" tricked her into getting naked!!!

Guess what? That is why they sign the Release Form saying they want to do an explicit girl/guy nude scene. They like sucking cock you idiot. No good girl will suck cock FOR ANY AMOUNT OF MONEY..much less for free.

Plus, they get professional photos and they get work, paying work, once I put them up.

Everyone wins. So what is your beef? If you need girls I got 'em...about 350 so far. And guess what else? A lot of the Good Girls don't get naked. THEY PAY ME to shoot their portfolio!

How about that? You're paying them, their paying me.

Anyway, like I said, you have no "case" or validity to your concern, if it truly is about "not paying my models."

I believe the real truth is I'm getting Hot Girls...but I'm willing to share.... if you ask nicely.

PS-Ugly Moe (see signature) is my web designer..I'm borowing his IRQ 'cause I'm too busy getting blow jobs to get my own.

xoxox
Ugly Joe
www.UglyJoe.com

You sound like a pig, you act like a pig, you are a pig.
Talk to a lawyer dipshit, you'll need a good one.

I remember you telling me "I would pay my models, but I don't have two nickels to rub together right now"

You begged for my help at Phoenix Forum.

I can post VIDEO of girls telling everyone the truth about you. So go back to LA and stink up that city, there is no place for you in Phoenix.

Steve Lightspeed

uglyjoe · 08-25-2003, 01:29 PM

Okay Steve...you win....I'm leaving town tonight...geez sorry if I pissed you off.

BTW, I "begged" you at Phoenix Forum? You haven't ever exaggerated have you?

I guess I just don't get it. Models get free portfolios, they get personal websites built, they get future work....and your mad because ..why again???? And have you noticed no one else gets your beef either?!

I'm done discussing it. You know where my studio is if you want to stop by. If your concerned there are a shortage of girls in Phoenix....let me know. I get a dozen a week. You must be looking in the wrong places bro.

Otherwise, I'm sure I'll never be as big and powerful as Steve Lightspeed so I wouldn't lose any more sleep over it if I were you.

And oh yeah, I'm not leaving town and my attorney says all our documents and shoots always have been and will continue to be legal and in fact, by not paying the models...there are no prostitution issues. I hope you never get horny and try to poke one of your paid models....hmmm.

I will be seeing you around so if you want to continue being a dick you can let me know your real beef in person.

08-20-2003, 11:56 PM	#52
NBDesign Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The other side of Hell Posts: 5,814	Shit... beat me to it. ok... one more 50! __________________ Use Lensman's program and get the most for your hard earned traffic. Get Heidi for your site Here. Lots of sets to choose from. She makes a great Addition to any site. Grab one Grab All.

08-21-2003, 12:10 AM	#58
Peter Romero Long time no happy ending Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: San Diego CA Posts: 10,597	Wrong! Your fake 2257 compliant notice is in violation of the law: 1. You cannot have another person besides the producer be the custodian of records 2. You cannot use a PO box as a storage space for records. 3. You cannot have a company be the custodian of records. 4. There are no 7 story buildings in the middle of the desert in that area so don't lie about it... BITCH!!! I could just drive to Arizona take a picture of your PO box and prove to the feds that you are in blatant violation of 2257 compliance law and get you sent to prison or you could NEVER Post my name here again - BITCH!!!! __________________ POVCash [email protected] See them all here: https://www.Petergirls.com

08-21-2003, 12:12 AM	#59
NBDesign Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The other side of Hell Posts: 5,814	Boys... boys... start a new thread... this is a bash Uglyjoe thread... Let's not loose focus here... __________________ Use Lensman's program and get the most for your hard earned traffic. Get Heidi for your site Here. Lots of sets to choose from. She makes a great Addition to any site. Grab one Grab All.

08-21-2003, 01:03 AM	#68
Peter Romero Long time no happy ending Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: San Diego CA Posts: 10,597	[QUOTE]Originally posted by FTVGirls yeah, this place doesnt have dsl or cable yet. [/QUOTE Small time __________________ POVCash [email protected] See them all here: https://www.Petergirls.com

08-21-2003, 01:49 AM	#71
jimmy3way Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Top Secret Hideout Posts: 2,508	Nice pissing match...but more on topic: Can you imagine how much Ugly Joe had to pay to put 'Pretty Fly for a White Guy' in that video???? __________________ One thing, I forgot this last detail: the Biz Markie will always prevail.

08-20-2003, 11:56 PM	#51
IMP^or^SNiTL.e A/S/L .. I don't names. Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,177	nah too tacky

08-21-2003, 12:07 AM	#56
FTVGirls So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Phoenix AZ Posts: 1,052	naww... Im being sarcastic to you because of your hypocrisy on this post. You are not that different from Ugly Joe, you've just been around longer. ie. your character does not make for much of a better rep in this industry....

08-21-2003, 12:17 AM	#60
FTVGirls So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Phoenix AZ Posts: 1,052	Ive found a new way to spend my time inbetween video processing..... Anyways my friend, you are wrong on your assumption on your 3 items. Your point is coming across however, I know you to be a 35-40 something fellow, but whom acts like a teen. Youre the classic example of what is called 'perv turned amateur photographer just to get some'

08-21-2003, 12:30 AM	#63
FTVGirls So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Phoenix AZ Posts: 1,052	It takes about 5 mins for each video clip to run through so give me 5 mins per post reply thanks Roy, I'd be happy for you to come and visit me in my box (sorry I cant afford anything bigger just yet) -- Believe it or not, I always wanted to see who you were in person, just out of curiousity. Ugly Joe, I make no comment about; I dont know him; though Steve Lightspeed's word carries a lot of weight, and to me what he says is pretty much word. I know enough about you however, from what too many models have told me.

08-21-2003, 12:50 AM	#65
FTVGirls So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Phoenix AZ Posts: 1,052	I thought you went to sleep? I'm 5'7, 155 pounds. -- thats the only smiley Icon I could find that was close enough to express my fear. So you would actually come drive down, 6 hours, from LA to take pictures? Well at least stay at my place for a while, if you dont like me, you can stay at Steve Lightspeeds place. My place is much more exciting though, I have lots of hot pictures lying around.

08-21-2003, 12:58 AM	#67
FTVGirls So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Phoenix AZ Posts: 1,052	yeah, this place doesnt have dsl or cable yet.

08-21-2003, 01:08 AM	#69
FTVGirls So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Phoenix AZ Posts: 1,052	yeah

08-21-2003, 04:36 AM	#75
TheViper Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: the streets. Posts: 2,560	POV Porn guy It is easy to act like a tough mofo behind your pc, face it dude, ur nothing more than a big internet mouth.

08-21-2003, 04:47 AM	#76
lagwagon Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: az Posts: 8,464	what the fuck happened in this thread? dayum who wants a hug? __________________ FTVGirls - FTVMilfs - DanielleFTV

08-21-2003, 11:31 AM	#77
bitch_in_heat Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 9	Let me explain something; I don't work for him, I don't know him, but if that is all that your little brain can think to justify all that you're saying then fine. I work for myself and it's not as a <U>paid</U> or <U>unpaid</U> whore. I own a media company located in Phoenix. Just think, this whole thing started because you 'guys' couldn't take someone telling you to be professional. Some day, when you all grow up, then you will realize the importance of keeping 'business contacts' no matter if you like or approve of their methods. If you don't like someone personally then fine, but don't bash company. Show some maturity... As for [email protected] emailing me and telling me, "Suck it Bitch". You are taking this way to personal, this is the reason why I don't like to hire unknown people from a board to do work for my company. You really don't know what kind of people you're getting. Which was my main reason for coming here in the first place, I was looking for someone (which also explains why I have so little posts). Just as I told rgarcia, I take being called a bitch as a complement because I am way above the little people like you. "Eat me bastard" would be the equivalent to your statement. Yes? If the ones that feel malice towards this UglyJoe ever would like to icq me and explain in depth why they feel this way, I am more than willing to listen. Curious even, then maybe I could understand why, but until then, as I said...the site looks nice. Great job. You are one of my considerations for my project. I hope you can do programming as well, we'll talk. You all have a wonderful day, I'm tired of this...as I said, ICQ me if you feel like spilling and making me understand more in depth. Bitch In Heat PS: It is a PO Box, it's for mailing shit and receiving mail. Sheez, I thought you could do better. Records are stored at place of business unless they are over a year old, then they are stored at a special location for a period of 3 years. Good try though.

08-22-2003, 02:13 PM	#78
meggie7801 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Valley girl stuck in AZ Posts: 3	OK I am the girl NBDesign was referring to who also worked for Ugly Joe. (BTW, Hi! NBDesign ? Lost my cell which had your # in it ? been dying to contact you but never seem to be online at the same time. Please call me again!!) I have to agree with every thing NB and Lightspeed have said. I usually don?t chime in on this type of stuff and don?t hold grudges. But this is one of those times you just don?t want to see what happened to you happen to someone else. I unfortunately worked there MUCH longer and at the same time as NB. Not paying the girls is probably the nicest thing he does to them. This is not by any means his only scam either. This is only my 2 cents! I just hate it when there are a handful of people in this industry who make the rest of us look bad. Megan

08-22-2003, 02:27 PM	#79
meggie7801 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Valley girl stuck in AZ Posts: 3	[QUOTE] If the ones that feel malice towards this UglyJoe ever would like to icq me and explain in depth why they feel this way, I am more than willing to listen. Curious even, then maybe I could understand why, but until then, as I said...the site looks nice. Great job. You are one of my considerations for my project. I hope you can do programming as well, we'll talk.[QUOTE] Actually he doesn't do programming. He is just the front guy. He hire?s designers. (Hence myself and NB working for him) The one who designed that isn't being paid right now (I think it's been about a month since he has been paid) so I am sure you could offer him a job and he would jump at it. Maybe he would like to post on this board??? Megan

08-22-2003, 03:04 PM	#80
uglyjoe Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 12	This is James at www.UglyJoes.com. I am a photographer not a web designer but right now I am really fuckin pissed off. #1 The piece of shit at NB Design is pissed off because I fired his ass. His name is John and I will be more than happy to disclose who he really is if he keeps up this BS. #2 It is true..I do not pay any girls for shooting. Guess what, most photographers don't. I exchange photographs for content and I have my designer build girls personal websites (see www.GirlsThatRock.com). Every girl sign a Models Release form and agees to shoot solo girl, girl/girl, or girl/guy or all. They need the content for their website. I need the contecnt for www.UglyJoes.com. All you motherfuckers who are slamming me for not paying my girls better get a grip on reality. As I told Steve at Lightspeed, if your paying a girl to suck your cock and to fuck you....you are flirting with prostitution. I am not going to pay a model for these services...and guess what...they are happy because I do: a) Get them work in LA through a dozen diff photogs and agencies I'ver worked with since 1982. b) Give them professional photo's (8x10's) that they can add to their Model's portfolio or show "Mom & Dad" c) Get them modelng jobs here in Phoenix with other webmasters that DO PAY for content.... John at NBDesign, you say I wanted you to do a copy of Bang Bus? What kind of shit is that? Show me something, anything that ever is even remotely close to resembling that type of convo. It is not even worth discussing it is so assinine. And Steve at Lightspeed, so you're pissed that I shot two of your exclusive Models that did not disclose they were exclusive. And, if they were exclusive why were they willing to shoot nude with me? That is an issue with them not me. Next, to say you (Steve) have checked up on me and "I am not legit...fuck you. I am 1,000 times more legit than you when it comes to photography. I have girls on Playboy TV, do you? I have girls with World in LA do you? I have a girl that was published in Maxim magazine, do you? And, I dated one of my models that was a Penthouse Pet of the YEAR...have you? Until yesterday I respected you for what you have done in this industry...the $1,000,000 club is very exclusive. But I have to tell you, saying I'm scamming models is bullshit and your ego should not be so big that you are jealous that someone else in Phoenix just might be getting better talent than you. Maybe your weiner is short and mine isn't..is that why your really mad? Up until yesterday, based on a phone call you and I had, you were asking me about my supply of girls, and were saying that you could not find good talent. I have invited you to my studio, yes I have a 2400' studio - I don't shoot out of a barn, basement or "sleazy" apartment, and you said you would swing by after a LA trip. In fact, ANY WEBMASTER that comes to Phoenix is welcome to stop by. The guys I have met in person, Scott at SweetApples, Paul at AmateurAllure, Bill at DrunkSpringBreakGirls, and many other local webmasters can tell you...I am not a fuckin "scammer". Funny thing is, it is one "guy" that is saying shit because I fuckin fired his ass. I have over 100 movies on my site and more girls come back for multiple shoots than those that don't. My models like me enough to come back for portfolio shoots, their personal website design, and for YES (shock) more Ugly Joe scenes...gasp! And yeah Steve, both your "exclusive" models Brandy and Emily came back twice! Sorry Bro, like I told you on the phone, if I had known I wouldn't have shot them. And, I will not shoot any of your exclusive girls as long as I know they are exclusive. That is common courtesy in the real world of Photography. I invite anyone to stop by at any time, I'll give you my studio location off line for those that want to meet me (UglyJoe). Come by and meet the TERROR...and I'm not even "that" ugly. James www.UglyJoes.com Last edited by uglyjoe; 08-22-2003 at 03:27 PM..

08-22-2003, 04:55 PM	#81
SureFire Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: internet Posts: 4,398	Interesting thread! Uglyjoe, good luck with your site. The video trailers look good and load-up quickly on a DSL connection. Hope everything works out between you and Lightspeed.

08-22-2003, 05:04 PM	#82
Ic3m4nZ Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Montreal! Posts: 6,285	Good luck with ur site..

08-22-2003, 05:05 PM	#83
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08-22-2003, 05:34 PM	#85
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08-25-2003, 11:28 AM	#89
uglyjoe Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 12	Steve, #1 You have my phone number... #2 When a girl signs a Release Form that states she "Agrees to do a Girl/Guy shoot with photographer" in trade for creating her personal website, you really think she is surprised that I post her on the internet? This really isn't about you being upset that I don't pay girls up front money..it is the fact you are worried that a girl will leave here and never want to do adult modeling ever again because the "scammer" tricked her into getting naked!!! Guess what? That is why they sign the Release Form saying they want to do an explicit girl/guy nude scene. They like sucking cock you idiot. No good girl will suck cock FOR ANY AMOUNT OF MONEY..much less for free. Plus, they get professional photos and they get work, paying work, once I put them up. Everyone wins. So what is your beef? If you need girls I got 'em...about 350 so far. And guess what else? A lot of the Good Girls don't get naked. THEY PAY ME to shoot their portfolio! How about that? You're paying them, their paying me. Anyway, like I said, you have no "case" or validity to your concern, if it truly is about "not paying my models." I believe the real truth is I'm getting Hot Girls...but I'm willing to share.... if you ask nicely. PS-Ugly Moe (see signature) is my web designer..I'm borowing his IRQ 'cause I'm too busy getting blow jobs to get my own. xoxox Ugly Joe www.UglyJoe.com Last edited by uglyjoe; 08-25-2003 at 11:31 AM..

08-25-2003, 01:29 PM	#91
uglyjoe Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 12	Okay Steve...you win....I'm leaving town tonight...geez sorry if I pissed you off. BTW, I "begged" you at Phoenix Forum? You haven't ever exaggerated have you? I guess I just don't get it. Models get free portfolios, they get personal websites built, they get future work....and your mad because ..why again???? And have you noticed no one else gets your beef either?! I'm done discussing it. You know where my studio is if you want to stop by. If your concerned there are a shortage of girls in Phoenix....let me know. I get a dozen a week. You must be looking in the wrong places bro. Otherwise, I'm sure I'll never be as big and powerful as Steve Lightspeed so I wouldn't lose any more sleep over it if I were you. And oh yeah, I'm not leaving town and my attorney says all our documents and shoots always have been and will continue to be legal and in fact, by not paying the models...there are no prostitution issues. I hope you never get horny and try to poke one of your paid models....hmmm. I will be seeing you around so if you want to continue being a dick you can let me know your real beef in person.