100

I had a really nice pork fillet tonight. Thanks for caring. :thumbsup

What concerns me the most is the humane treatment of cats and dogs. I don't eat meat , but the reason has more to do with my taste in food, than out of concern for cows or pigs.These are loving, domesticated animals who are meant to be kept as pets. They are basically dependent on humans for food, shelter and care. Anyone who has ever had a cat or dog as a pet knows the strong emotional bond between a pet and owner. The love that is reflected in the eyes of our devoted animals totally negates the suggestion that they do not have souls.

It's heartbreaking that we live in a civilized society - yet our laws against animal cruelty leave a lot to be desired. The emasculated pieces of shit who abuse animals are the same ones who abuse children and are definitely more likely to commit rape and murder.


Extremist Groups are never cool - as they become so fanatical that they do more harm than good.

Nah, I'm sure the cows would be desert for them after they get done munching on us.

:1orglaugh

nothing wrong with eating a dog or a cat as long as it was killed humanely.

I have mentioned this on the board recently but here it goes again and I have no clue why.

Lately I have found myself grossed out when I see meat, especiall raw meaty or the preparing of it. Ive gutted deer and other animals all my life. Have had blood cover me and not be grossed out.

I used to be able to just buy a big $20 ham and get out my electric knife and just hack away at it and shit. But lately I have been totally grossed out by meat and have really slowed down on it. I used to eat it daily. Now I dont think I do.

It has nothing to do with the animals or them being killed or inhumane treatment, it just grosses me out and I have no clue why.

The other day I couldnt finish my food because ws literally getting disgusted.

Not sure what is going on in my head but its fucking me up

hahah

1. There are alot of people (including nutrionists and Dr.'s) who believe humans are ?behavioral? omnivores. Many people humans are naturally herbivores. How many can't eat red meat because it does not digest in there body well?

2. I see alot of threads here that say since animals in nature eat each other, it is ok for us. I would say as a response "Then go out into the wilderness and fight them one on one, no guns". Those arguements mean nothing since I am sure none of you hunt without guns from a distance.

I don't hunt at all.

It is ok for us to eat animals.

People are not naturally herbivores. Herbivores don't have canines.

Hrm..

While PETA, Greenpeace, etc are fucking whackos, they do have one good point.

Factory farms are wrong. Period. Nothing wrong w/ meat, etc. But christ, at least not tortue the animals. If everything was basically your old fashioned family-type farm, these groups truly wouldn't have a leg to stand on with the public as a whole.

The conditions on my moms farm vs. a big factory farm for chickens say, is insane. My mom kills the chickens and *gasp* sells them for food of course, but until then they live a generally normal life. The flip-side is a 5 foot box crammed with 20 chickens all fed super-duper-food to make them gain weight super fast. Just aint natural or right.

That said, I'm not going to stop eating meat. It's just I would prefer say, paying double for that pound of hamburger at the store if I knew it came from "conventional" farming means.

Do away w/ factory type farming, and I guarantee you PETA would not even be heard of by the majority.

-Phil

p.s. That all-creatures.org site is done by a bunch of morons. Too many factual errors. Like uhm, "Cows must be kept pregnant in order for them to keep producing milk". What kind of retarded fuck actually believes that?

about as many who can't eat veggies for the same reason

I'm sure there is a point here somewhere.:1orglaugh

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

What do you people think the cave man ate? The only thing different today is there are more ppl, thus creating the need to make more FOOD.

Food=good

food=meat, egs, and poultry

so meat, eggs, and poultry = GOOD

;)

I was always good in math...

I support organizations such as Green Peace and PETA... I may not agree with every single small detail but as a whole i support their fight for the protection freedom of animals.

I grew up on a farm in the country my friends and family hunted and fished. So i can fairly say i have developed my opinion from either side of the fence. In areas such as Environmental protection and animal protection the groups need to be extreme. They are fighting agains mulit-million dollar corporations... they have to be as "cut throat" in their convictions as the man sitting behind the desk.

We are cultured and taught it is ok to over endulge. And i am one hundred percent with them when they r trying to teach childern to question things. These kids need to know the truth from every angle... so they can make their own judgements.

:2 cents:

What's your thoughts on the Drink beer, not milk campaign?

Well i am one step ahead i already don't drink milk (its fucking gross) i am a Heineken and Alexander Keith's drinker... :drinkup

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

What do your kids drink? Coronas?

LOL dude i dont have kids.. heehe but Soy Milk is good calcium suplements whateva'..... shit all this talk of beer and i may need to cut out early! :helpme

http://maddox.xmission.com/grill.html :Graucho

From that url....

"I was looking over a menu in a restaurant the other day when I saw a section for vegetarians; I thought to myself "boy, I sure am glad that I'm not a meat-hating fascist" and I skipped on to the steak section (because I'll be damned if I'm going to pay $15 for an alfalfa sandwich, slice of cucumber and a scoop of cold cottage cheese), but before I turned the page something caught my eye. The heading of the vegetarian section was titled "Guiltless Grill," not because there were menu items with fewer calories and cholesterol (since there were "healthy" chicken dishes discriminated against in this section), but because none of the items used animal products. Think about that phrase for a second. What exactly does "guiltless grill" imply? So I'm supposed to feel guilty now if I eat meat? Screw you.

What pisses me off so much about this phrase is the sheer narrow-mindedness of these stuck up vegetarian assholes. You think you're saving the world by eating a tofu-burger and sticking to a diet of grains and berries? Well here's something that not many vegetarians know (or care to acknowledge): every year millions of animals are killed by wheat and soy bean combines during harvesting season (source). Oh yeah, go on and on for hours about how all of us meat eaters are going to hell for having a steak, but conveniently ignore the fact that each year millions of mice, rabbits, snakes, skunks, possums, squirrels, gophers and rats are ruthlessly murdered as a direct result of YOUR dieting habits. What's that? I'm sorry, I don't hear any more elitist banter from you pompous cocks. Could it be because your shit has been RUINED?

That's right: the gloves have come off. The vegetarian response to this embarrassing fact is "well, at least we're not killing intentionally." So let me get this straight; not only are animals ruthlessly being murdered as a direct result of your diet, but you're not even using the meat of the animals YOU kill? At least we're eating the animals we kill (and although we also contribute to the slaughter of animals during grain harvesting, keep in mind that we're not the ones with a moral qualm about it), not just leaving them to rot in a field somewhere. That makes you just as morally repugnant than any meat-eater any day. Not only that, but you're killing free-roaming animals, not animals that were raised for feed. Their bodies get mangled in the combine's machinery, bones crushed, and you have the audacity to point fingers at the meat industry for humanely punching a spike through a cow's neck? If you think that tofu burgers come at no cost to animals or the environment, guess again.

One thing's for sure... If every person had to grow their own crops and/or raise their own livestock for consumption, they would have a better appreciation of our role in the food chain.

They would also see that killing a wild cat or gopher or mouse may be practical and so would purposely sparing a garden snake or worm.

The bottom line is that the ppl who are overly concerned about the feelings of animals are just as ignorant as the corporation or individual that doen't give a shit at all.

The world is just getting more full of dumbfucks who can't help but be on one extreme or another, are extremly misinformed and spout off out of pure emotion rather than logic.

Either that or they did way too much acid. :Graucho

Yes I realize that and agree. Of course people shouldn't torture animals needlessly or kill off entire species. My main points there were that it's no more wrong for animals to kill for food that it is for humans to kill for food, and to illustrate the absurdity of giving animals equal rights with humans.

I disagree there. I think they do more harm than good to their cause by (in the minds of many) destroying the credibility of the animal rights argument. People begin to think of anybody who talks about the humane treatment of animals and saving endangered species as a bunch of nutty extremist peta types.

Whatever.

Of course not. Normally they're institutionalized. Talking about giving humans and animals equal rights too much just gets too silly.

The view that eating meat is somehow immoral is not a very widely held opinion.
I never said "That gives them the right to slaughter anything less intelligent". If I did, and you said "that leads to the conclusion that retards and infants should be eaten as well" I would say that you've already said our intelligence gives us the choice to act morally and is what sets us apart from other animals and most people would find eating children and the retarded totally immoral and that's why there are laws against it.

Same here. It just seems gross when it hits you that you're eating the flesh muscles of what was just recently a living body. What really gets me is the people that go beyond regular meats and eat that trippe stuff you see, pigs feets, and how in god's name anyone eats those big ass ugly cow tongues you see at the market is really a freaky thought.

When I do eat meat I eat really small bites now, so in case I start getting those gagging thoughts it easy to spit out in a napkin.

http://www.chock.demon.co.uk/england/dcp02670.jpg

mate, I drag fish kicking and screaming for their lives out of the ocean embedded on hooks and sometimes have to snap their necks.. when i was younger we used to butcher our own chickens.. I agree with you here, of course it's ok for humans to kill animals for food. If I could get fish to magically levitate painlessly straight into my bucket out of the water, believe me I would be a happier man :)
to me it's about unecessary cruelty.

actually I kind of see it as totally normalised.. who doesn't want to save the earth or stop baby seals from being killed with clubs? Aside from reactionaries out for a response of course..
yeah they do a lot of harm to their cause.. which is why a lot of them need a good slapping, but it's because of them that great swathes of society now are aware and disgusted of the ways animals are treated etc.. I mean you know that they're not helping themselves, but you forget or don't notice that the normal guy or girl working the 9-5 in an office now has a mild opinion on the subject and has been affected by them.. the tv commercials, print advertising and popular magazine editorials help where "dreadlocked and pierced" they fail themselves.

I am starting an organization to save plants... afterall, they too are living things and deserve to be protected.

No meat, no vegies... shit..... we're all fucked.

already been done.

Anybody want some steak... Juicy style?