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Old 07-09-2003, 10:03 AM   #1
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US Punishing Canada Again

U.S. bill may hurt Canada's defence industry
http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2003/07/09/cda_military030709

Mad cow might have come from US
http://www.cbc.ca/storyview/CBC/2003...adcow_us030703

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I guess a big fat trade war is brewing.

Remember how after 9-11, hundred of thousands of Canadians opened their homes and wallets to those affected by the World Trade Center attacks?
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trade war? hehe

canada needs us, we dont need them.... its basically whatever we want to do from canada, we can, and will, period.
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Old 07-09-2003, 10:18 AM   #4
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trade war? hehe

canada needs us, we dont need them.... its basically whatever we want to do from canada, we can, and will, period.
your vote doesnt count.
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your vote doesnt count.
hehe reality's a bitch, ain't she?
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I guess a big fat trade war is brewing.

is it really a war when one side is defenseless?
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Old 07-09-2003, 10:24 AM   #7
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is it really a war when one side is defenseless?
hope you like your water and electricity in 10 years you numbnuts.
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hope you like your water and electricity in 10 years you numbnuts.
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hope you like your water and electricity in 10 years you numbnuts.
Yes, since the birth of our country and the invention of electricity we haven't needed canadan water or electricity but 10 years from now, we'll need canada's stuff desperately.

you've got one of the worst cases of little man's desease I've ever seen.
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Old 07-09-2003, 10:36 AM   #10
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you've got one of the worst cases of little man's desease I've ever seen.
12clicks,

For your edification:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/features/water/

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/...er/default.stm

You keep up your 20th century rhetoric, I'll keep studying the 21st century tarot cards.
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Old 07-09-2003, 10:41 AM   #11
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all this drug war stuff, and the unknown whereabouts of saddam hussein..... I hope george dubya hasn't seen Southpark the movie.

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U.S. bill may hurt Canada's defence industry
http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2003/07/09/cda_military030709

Mad cow might have come from US
http://www.cbc.ca/storyview/CBC/2003...adcow_us030703

Did you read the article. It says that they are 95% sure that the mad cow originated in canada, but you can't ever be 100% sure.

As far as buying defense related equipment. Tell me what canada did to help us in "Iraqi Freedom?" I can't remember. We spent countless billions on that bullshit. We warned other countries about this. Take a backseat and you'll have a backseat when it comes to having our business.

Yet another example of anti-american propaganda.
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We spent countless billions on that bullshit.
Exactly. We saved our money and repaired the Olympic Stadium
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Well thats enough for me. George W. it looks like the Canadians are supporting terrorist. Lets invade.
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Yet another example of anti-american propaganda.
why is it that anything negative whether true or false is "anti-american propaganda" but you're so ready to believe in some secret documents that no one on this planet has ever seen about wmd's in some other country on the other side of the planet?
Anything against the US is propaganda... anything the US says about any other country must be the cold hard facts and everyone must obey the US's rules.
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I don't know about Canada and water, all I know is <a href=http://web.ladwp.com/~wsoweb/Aqueduct/historyoflaa/newsupply.htm>Mulholland<a/> is responsible to bringing Water to Southern california through the LA Aqueducts, a marvel in design, and without it we would not have this glorious place. ;)

<a href=http://web.ladwp.com/~wsoweb/Aqueduct/historyoflaa/cityownswater.htm>'The City Owns it's Water.'</a>

'From the time that Los Angeles was first founded in 1769, the small settlement had depended upon its own river for water. The 11 families that settled in the area dammed up the Los Angeles River and built canals to irrigate fields. But as the city grew, those in charge of supplying the growing population with water knew the small meandering river could not meet future demands.'

Pretty amazing stuff.

<a href=http://web.ladwp.com/~wsoweb/Aqueduct/historyoflaa/newsupply.htm>Mulholland<a/> was a genius. No question why Mulholland Drive runs along the top of the Hollywood Hills.

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You of the uninformed better bone up on your facts if you think the flow of trade between Canada & the US is one-sided. To be fair, I'll steer you in the right direction. Try looking up:

Hydro-electricity
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Of course Canada/Canadians import a lot from the USA, but it is anything BUT one-sided. Try again.
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You of the uninformed better bone up on your facts if you think the flow of trade between Canada & the US is one-sided. To be fair, I'll steer you in the right direction. Try looking up:

Hydro-electricity
Natural gas
Lumber
Wheat/grains
Minerals
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Of course Canada/Canadians import a lot from the USA, but it is anything BUT one-sided. Try again.

Don't go presenting 12clicks with facts. It confuses him.
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i think canada should just turn the power off on the usa.........
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There will never be a trade war between those two countries. They need each other way to much.
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is it really a war when one side is defenseless?
True, I guess tha it isn't a war!! haha
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Don't go presenting 12clicks with facts. It confuses him.
dude, go confuse yourself over this:
http://www.worldbank.org/data/databytopic/GDP.pdf

I'm sure the reason for this link is beyond your comprehension.


Oh, and Masterpopup, those two dopey urls don't mention canadian water and the US. nice try.
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canada needs us, we dont need them.... its basically whatever we want to do from canada, we can, and will, period.
Apparently the US doesn't need our wood, electricity (and they get a LOT from us), grain, beef, oil (which we supply a LOT of), or any of those other little goodies they have been kicking themselves over because their dollar sucks and they can't get it as cheap now :P They're trying to make our dollar drop so they can buy all that shit up again for a steal.
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Exactly. We saved our money and repaired the Olympic Stadium
My people work 8 hours a day, 5 days a week (a seriously unheard of practice relative to the rest of the world) just to spend upwards of 200 billion of that money on security issues that needs to be dealth with. We have more important things to spend our money on. We are not going to contract security related products to people that don't match us. For 200 billion dollars we could develop states like illinois, new york, california into the cleanest most productive areas in the world. For that money we could build the largest parks, largest stone structures and other artisticsally respected areas that you have ever imagined. We will build areas like chicago where normal black and white children will sit around a joke about how gay europe is and how bad the rest of the world sucks.

Can anybody guess who is funding the majority of this shit. Its not the entire world. Its states like illinois, california, seattle, michigan, new york, florida, texas, and countries like britian. Its to no surprise that our states are now broke and have (to our standard of common sense) stuggling schools. These schools are still better than dictactor supressed struggling schools like iraqi and other african institutions.


Mark my words, if countries don't start banding together in helping america, and britian bring war efforts to resolve we will financial cut you off. This is a warning that goes out to anti-american and anti-"iraqi freedom" people as well. Iraqi for example, has the financial capabilities to do absolutely nothing with their time. If you are an iraqi citizen you could retire by the age of 40, but leftist progangist are going to ruin it all and people will return home. Instead of our troops heorically putting their lifes on the line to make this world a better place, they will come home and build our turf that really doesn't even need it. 100 years down the road the world will see where we went wrong and the people to blame for this will be the ones that haulted the progress. Imagine if france, america, germany, russia, britian, and middle eastern countries would have just came to the conclusion that sadam should been removed back in the 1980-1990s. But no, what happened? The french where selling saddam nuclear reactors for weapons, the russians where selling them SAMS, tanks, ballistic missiles, military strategy, and radar systems. They were selling all of this to a guy that killed his own people, whose sons rape women, and has no respect for higher learning.

North Korea - they already sell missiles and other ballistic weapons to countries under everyone's noses. When a nuclear bomb goes off. Who is going to be to blame. Its not going to be america and britian. They'll launch a strike right this fucking second if every single nation is the world supported that.

I hope everyone realizes that we are developing other technologies that will just blow peoples minds. Here is illinois we have mystical places like: the fermi lab, northwestern, U of C where we learn and dedicate own brains to the research of quantum mechanics and the study of the universe and the overall make-up of our being. When you think of how crazy it actually is that we have a grasps on where we stand in the universe. Some of the issues that people argue against are just absurd.

Saddam; a vialbe leader of our world? Please
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Apparently the US doesn't need our wood, electricity (and they get a LOT from us), grain, beef, oil (which we supply a LOT of), or any of those other little goodies they have been kicking themselves over because their dollar sucks and they can't get it as cheap now :P They're trying to make our dollar drop so they can buy all that shit up again for a steal.

Actually we don't need anything from canada. It just make econimical sense is some areas. Illinois started what you like to called modern agriculture. It ships out over 50% of its grain and other agricultural products. Americans are so incrediblly smart that we have the technology to power our entire state from wind power. Imagine if we damed up the mississippi. Again, it just doesn't make economic sense. Our educational institution know of ways to turn a cup of water into life-time supply of enery for a car. Again, not ecomonically suitable.
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Apparently the US doesn't need our wood, electricity (and they get a LOT from us), grain, beef, oil (which we supply a LOT of), or any of those other little goodies they have been kicking themselves over because their dollar sucks and they can't get it as cheap now :P They're trying to make our dollar drop so they can buy all that shit up again for a steal.

Its a true shame that the United States taxes so much on canadian lumber. Maybe they are trying to control growth, but it seems to me that is would be beneficial to both countries to lift the tax on lumber.
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i'm not worried here... nebrakska makes enough power to run the whole midwest, and we've got plenty of water to boot
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man, how can someone like 12clicks know so much about porn, and so little about everything else....

It's all about having strong biased opinions, they ALWAYS make you look smart

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i'm not worried here... nebrakska makes enough power to run the whole midwest, and we've got plenty of water to boot
That and the progress our institutions make. Chicago back in the 30's met today's water standards.

I seriouly believe, if necessary, we could generate the world's electricity by natural means. Our government will pay you to put solar panels on your house (cut the cost). Com Edison will pay you to have your own wind mill that puts electricity back into the system.

Americans shouldn't worry about power.
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All the lame americans never learn from their lessons that's why they'll get hit like 9-11-2001 again sooner or later and most of the people here in Canada will have smiles on their faces again.
LMFAO I can still remember the morning of 9-11-2001 at school : All the people had big and large smiles on their faces and were laughing at the americans and the lame president Bush who was talking shit on TV as always
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It's all about having strong biased opinions, they ALWAYS make you look smart

these threads are among some of the funniest.

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Apparently the US doesn't need our wood, electricity (and they get a LOT from us), grain, beef, oil (which we supply a LOT of), or any of those other little goodies they have been kicking themselves over because their dollar sucks and they can't get it as cheap now :P They're trying to make our dollar drop so they can buy all that shit up again for a steal.
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People in the midwest will never have to worry about power, food, electronic advances, culture, or any other needs. On top of that to people here for the most part are so nice, respective, normal, and well educated.
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man, how can someone like 12clicks know so much about porn, and so little about everything else....

It's all about having strong biased opinions, they ALWAYS make you look smart

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hmmmm, I guess where you're from you can make statements and people think they're true without any facts. Kinda like calling yourself "traffictrader"
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All the lame americans never learn from their lessons that's why they'll get hit like 9-11-2001 again sooner or later and most of the people here in Canada will have smiles on their faces again.
LMFAO I can still remember the morning of 9-11-2001 at school : All the people had big and large smiles on their faces and were laughing at the americans and the lame president Bush who was talking shit on TV as always

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All the lame americans never learn from their lessons that's why they'll get hit like 9-11-2001 again sooner or later and most of the people here in Canada will have smiles on their faces again.
LMFAO I can still remember the morning of 9-11-2001 at school : All the people had big and large smiles on their faces and were laughing at the americans and the lame president Bush who was talking shit on TV as always
The fact that President Bush is the president of the united states goes to show how big of a joke the world is. Nobody in their right mind would want to be the president of the united states. To many liberties are taken away the moment you step in the white house. Leftist propaganda makes you a target.

Quite frankly sir, I think that you should be put on a fbi watch list. If you are smiling about 9/11 you have a problem. New York is the future. Its home to many great canadians like Peter Jennings, Tom Green, and the makers of South Park. Ever heard of MTV or Comedy Central. New York is a staple of hunam progress.

President Bush in no way represents the whole of american culture and opinion. If other countries would make the presidency an enjoyable process then we'd find presidents that aren't security related. The mere fact that you want america to suffer is a security issue in itself.
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hmmmm, I guess where you're from you can make statements and people think they're true without any facts. Kinda like calling yourself "traffictrader"
you're amusing. if you ever actually debated on facts as opposed to opinions, you'd lose every argument you have.

you're as much of an extremist as the mulsims you hate. And just as confused.

no wonder the USA is doomed, if people with your personality actually manage to get ahead in society.

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"Canada Buys Nearly a Quarter of All U.S. Exports of Goods
In 2001, the United States sold $163 billion worth of goods to Canada.

Canada, with a population less than one-ninth the size of that of the United States, bought an average of $5,254 worth of U.S. goods per capita. The United States bought $219 billion worth of Canadian merchandise, approximately $768 for every American.

Canada bought more U.S. goods than all 15 countries of the European Union combined and more than all of Latin America and the Caribbean.

In 2001, U.S. exports to the province of Ontario alone were worth almost twice as much as those to Japan."

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you're amusing. if you ever actually debated on facts as opposed to opinions, you'd lose every argument you have.

you're as much of an extremist as the mulsims you hate. And just as confused.

no wonder the USA is doomed, if people with your personality actually manage to get ahead in society.

son, the more you dislike us, the better off we are.
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son, the more you dislike us, the better off we are.
really? so the US is better off now, than 5 years ago?

exactly.

confused opinions. zero facts.

you're a funny guy.

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All the lame americans never learn from their lessons that's why they'll get hit like 9-11-2001 again sooner or later and most of the people here in Canada will have smiles on their faces again.
LMFAO I can still remember the morning of 9-11-2001 at school : All the people had big and large smiles on their faces and were laughing at the americans and the lame president Bush who was talking shit on TV as always
Shut the fuck up asshole, obviously that's not true. hmm, I wonder if you're some jackass American trying to make Canadians look bad.
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"Canada Buys Nearly a Quarter of All U.S. Exports of Goods
In 2001, the United States sold $163 billion worth of goods to Canada.

Canada, with a population less than one-ninth the size of that of the United States, bought an average of $5,254 worth of U.S. goods per capita. The United States bought $219 billion worth of Canadian merchandise, approximately $768 for every American.

Canada bought more U.S. goods than all 15 countries of the European Union combined and more than all of Latin America and the Caribbean.

In 2001, U.S. exports to the province of Ontario alone were worth almost twice as much as those to Japan."

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Nice try.
http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c1220.html
the US buys a few billion more than it sells to canada. As a % what the US sells is nothing compaired to the % of canadian GDP that it sells to the US.

Nice try at throwing us off with true but irrelevant facts.
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All the lame americans never learn from their lessons that's why they'll get hit like 9-11-2001 again sooner or later and most of the people here in Canada will have smiles on their faces again.
LMFAO I can still remember the morning of 9-11-2001 at school : All the people had big and large smiles on their faces and were laughing at the americans and the lame president Bush who was talking shit on TV as always
Sorry Abdul, the REAL Canadians were just as saddened, horrified and outraged over 9-11 as the Americans were. You are a twit, don't try to misrepresent or speak for all Canadians. You speak for no one but yourself and a minority of other twits like you.
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Sorry Abdul, the REAL Canadians were just as saddened, horrified and outraged over 9-11 as the Americans were. You are a twit, don't try to misrepresent or speak for all Canadians. You speak for no one but yourself and a minority of other twits like you.
You're hardly representative either.

You're an unusually right-wing and pro-US Canadian.

Your bias is clear to all.
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All the lame americans never learn from their lessons that's why they'll get hit like 9-11-2001 again sooner or later and most of the people here in Canada will have smiles on their faces again.
LMFAO I can still remember the morning of 9-11-2001 at school : All the people had big and large smiles on their faces and were laughing at the americans and the lame president Bush who was talking shit on TV as always
Piss of an get a life someplace!

I am neither a US citizen or a Canadian one, but just think your "opinion" is shit!



On "trade wars".. yea there are already trade wars, kind of substantial one's, going on for the past two years at least.

The US now has many trade disputes with many countries/regions, mainly because the US Admin chose to do nothing and ignore them. These are coming to a head.

Canada, Mexico the EU and others already have actions pending at the WTO. A major case with the EU is one the US know they will never win (it is a clear cut violation) and involves penalties of several billions.

"Free trade" according the the Bush Doctrine, is now being questioned by countries he is trying to deal with. The day has passed when other countries, where labor is cheap, are going to provide cheap consumables to the US. Hence these countries are negotiating their own free trade deals with other global regions. Seems they can now see they have a choice of girlfriends to sleep with!

Sadly the US remains the world's worst consumer of resources - around 24% - while it only has about 5% of the world's population.
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trade war? hehe

canada needs us, we dont need them.... its basically whatever we want to do from canada, we can, and will, period.
lol, I love it when stupid people think they have it all figured out. It's all that simple, right Kman?
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really? so the US is better off now, than 5 years ago?

exactly.

confused opinions. zero facts.

you're a funny guy.

Um, I'm better off than I was 5 yrs ago.
Don't blame me because you're failing.
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"Canada Buys Nearly a Quarter of All U.S. Exports of Goods
In 2001, the United States sold $163 billion worth of goods to Canada.

Canada, with a population less than one-ninth the size of that of the United States, bought an average of $5,254 worth of U.S. goods per capita. The United States bought $219 billion worth of Canadian merchandise, approximately $768 for every American.

Canada bought more U.S. goods than all 15 countries of the European Union combined and more than all of Latin America and the Caribbean.

In 2001, U.S. exports to the province of Ontario alone were worth almost twice as much as those to Japan."

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Canada brought $163 billion from US
United States brought $219 billion (how does it benefit US)

It makes more economic sense to buy from US rather than Europe. Our products are just as good and much closer.

From the american perspective it isn't the same. Canandian products aren't as good as most foriegn. You don't have the swiss pharmcuticals, the german engineering, english literature, russian space program, or the chinese or mexican ability to produce goods.

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Sadly the US remains the world's worst consumer of resources - around 24% - while it only has about 5% of the world's population.
haha, or put another way, you socialists would all be on the bread line if we weren't buying so much.

silly liberals.
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Um, I'm better off than I was 5 yrs ago.
Don't blame me because you're failing.
you said that the more the US is hated, the better off Americans are

how are the rest of your countrymen better off now than 5 years ago?

I'd be interested in *any* facts at all to back up your comments.
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Um, I'm better off than I was 5 yrs ago.
haha, ask someone with half a brain to read questions for you before you answer them from now on. Maybe they'll be able to explain them to you slowly, so you can answer the right question. He asked if the US is better off, not if you're better off. Genius
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