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Old 03-19-2003, 05:40 AM   #1
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U.S. threatens to kill independent reporters in Iraq

The Pentagon has threatened to fire on the satellite uplink positions of independent journalists in Iraq, according to veteran BBC war correspondent, Kate Adie. In an interview with Irish radio, Ms. Adie said that questioned about the consequences of such potentially fatal actions, a senior Pentagon officer had said: "Who cares.. ..They've been warned."

According to Ms. Adie, who twelve years ago covered the last Gulf War, the Pentagon attitude is: "entirely hostile to the the free spread of information."

"I am enormously pessimistic of the chance of decent on-the-spot reporting, as the war occurs," she told Irish national broadcaster, Tom McGurk on the RTE1 Radio "Sunday Show."

Ms. Adie made the startling revelations during a discussion of media freedom issues in the likely upcoming war in Iraq. She also warned that the Pentagon is vetting journalists according to their stance on the war, and intends to take control of US journalists' satellite equipment --in order to control access to the airwaves.

Another guest on the show, war author Phillip Knightley, reported that the Pentagon has also threatened they: "may find it necessary to bomb areas in which war correspondents are attempting to report from the Iraqi side."

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Yeah, we're also threatening to burn Iraqi women at the stake, and offer their babies to Satan.
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Hard to know what the fuck to think anymore, just hope loss of life is small.
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Hard to know what the fuck to think anymore, just hope loss of life is small.
Thats highly unlikely - they have already said they are planning on Urban combat in the streets of Iraq's major cities.

If you haven't watched "Black Hawk Down" make sure you do so for a fairly good overview of what urban combat means....
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If you haven't watched "Black Hawk Down" make sure you do so for a fairly good overview of what urban combat means....
Or visit an SEG booth at Internext..
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you want to go to war outside of the guidelines laid down by the US, take your chances. You want to take equipment into iraq that can be used by the enemy? take your chances.
When your luck runs out, don't expect us to cry for you.
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you want to go to war outside of the guidelines laid down by the US, take your chances. You want to take equipment into iraq that can be used by the enemy? take your chances.
When your luck runs out, don't expect us to cry for you.
and submit your articles to Ari Fleischer before publishing ... for small retouching and editing ....
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I seriously doubt if the statements were meant to indicate that the US would actually TARGET independent journalists, but just that if they happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, or if their satellite uplink looks like an Iraqi field communication, the instrumentation is not going to be looking to make fine distinctions.

War correspondents are always laying their ass on the line to report. This situation is no different than any other war situation in that regard.

If you find evidence that US soldiers are lining up independent correspondents next to ditches and shooting them in the head, let me know.
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Perfect logic Unseen....

Whether you support the war or not, war is hell.

People in the modern world seem to have forgotten that, as this reporters's attitude and intelligence illustrates.

I guess some reporters want reporting a war to resemble a shopping trip to Paris
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If you haven't watched "Black Hawk Down" make sure you do so for a fairly good overview of what urban combat means....

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I guess some reporters want reporting a war to resemble a shopping trip to Paris

Kate Adie has been through more wars than you've had hot dinners.. and probably more than most of the soldiers involved in this war! I'm quite sure she's well aware of the dangers and does not equate it to shopping in Paris.. Tel Aviv maybe but not Paris.. ;)
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and submit your articles to Ari Fleischer before publishing ... for small retouching and editing ....
does this pass for a french canadian comeback?
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heh.. finally the US is standing up a little too. i mean, we don't need the press pointing out our positions of all our troops. it's one thing to send a photographer with the team, who's going to be fairly unobtrusive. but it's another thing to expose soldiers to harm.
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ACTION ALERT:
Do Media Know That War Kills?

March 14, 2003

Despite daily reports about the "showdown" with Iraq, Americans hear very little from mainstream media about the most basic fact of war: People will be killed and civilian infrastructure will be destroyed, with devastating consequences for public health long after the fighting stops.

Since the beginning of the year, according to a search of the Nexis database (1/1/03-3/12/03), none of the three major television networks' nightly national newscasts-- ABC World News Tonight, CBS Evening News or NBC Nightly News-- have examined in detail what long-term impact war will have on humanitarian conditions in Iraq. They've also downplayed the immediate civilian deaths that will be caused by a U.S. attack.

The closest thing to a report on the likely humanitarian impact to appear this year on the nightly newscasts was a January 23 CBS Evening News story about the mood in Iraq. Noting that "many [Iraqis] are genuinely scared" of war, the report stated that "almost half" of the country "would starve without government food handouts." But CBS's report shifted responsibility for any humanitarian disaster away from the U.S., suggesting that what Iraqis fear "perhaps even more than an American military attack" is that domestic "hatred and revenge could tear [Iraq] apart" in the aftermath.

The networks' failure to integrate humanitarian concerns into their war coverage is especially striking in light of the numerous humanitarian and relief agencies that have issued urgent warnings about the impending crisis. Human Rights Watch, for instance, issued a 25-page briefing paper (2/13/03) warning of a "humanitarian disaster" impacting hundreds of thousands of people if the U.S. attacks Iraq. ABC, CBS and NBC did not cover HRW's findings.

Nor did they cover the announcement made (also 2/13/03) by the United Nations' undersecretary-general for humanitarian affairs, Kenzo Oshima, that as many as 10 million people might need food assistance during and after an Iraq war, 50 percent of Iraq's population might be without potable water, and that between 600,000 and 1.45 million people might become refugees and asylum seekers.

Also unreported on ABC, CBS and NBC were the internal U.N. estimates revealed in leaked documents publicized by the Campaign Against Sanctions on Iraq and the Center for Economic and Social Rights. The U.N. predicted that 30 percent of Iraq's children under five "would be at risk of death from malnutrition" in the event of war (CASI press release, 2/17/03), and that 500,000 people could "require medical treatment? as a result of direct or indirect injuries," with potentially 100,000 Iraqi civilians wounded "and another 400,000 hit by disease after the bombing of water and sewage facilities and the disruption of food supplies" (London Guardian, 1/29/03).

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I think this is the key factor in this story:

"...according to veteran BBC war correspondent, Kate Adie."

So, what... she just wants to spread more Anti American propoganda, and just because she has a fricken webpage that states her opinion (and I use the word loosely here) so that just automatically makes it true. Fuck you are gullible Gutterboy.
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The Pentagon has threatened to fire on the satellite uplink positions of independent journalists in Iraq, according to veteran BBC war correspondent, Kate Adie. In an interview with Irish radio, Ms. Adie said that questioned about the consequences of such potentially fatal actions, a senior Pentagon officer had said: "Who cares.. ..They've been warned."

According to Ms. Adie, who twelve years ago covered the last Gulf War, the Pentagon attitude is: "entirely hostile to the the free spread of information."

"I am enormously pessimistic of the chance of decent on-the-spot reporting, as the war occurs," she told Irish national broadcaster, Tom McGurk on the RTE1 Radio "Sunday Show."

Ms. Adie made the startling revelations during a discussion of media freedom issues in the likely upcoming war in Iraq. She also warned that the Pentagon is vetting journalists according to their stance on the war, and intends to take control of US journalists' satellite equipment --in order to control access to the airwaves.

Another guest on the show, war author Phillip Knightley, reported that the Pentagon has also threatened they: "may find it necessary to bomb areas in which war correspondents are attempting to report from the Iraqi side."

more at..

http://www.gulufuture.com/news/kate_adie030310.htm
But...

Wouldn't I be a sheep for believing yet another media source? Oh wait, I'm sorry... this must be a liberal source of some sort, it must be true!

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" If you haven't watched "Black Hawk Down" make sure you do so for a fairly good overview of what urban combat means.... "

Thousands of savages against like ten guys is not the usual situation.
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she is not your usual news bimbette...she is highly respected over here but has had a few public tempter tantrums this past year over the quality of news coverage. Who knows what the full truth on this is but she is not someone to just say something to make a headline - she is a journalist of top quality.
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she is not your usual news bimbette...she is highly respected over here but has had a few public tempter tantrums this past year over the quality of news coverage. Who knows what the full truth on this is but she is not someone to just say something to make a headline - she is a journalist of top quality.
I'm not doubting her integrity. I'm pointing out the hypocrisy.
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In war zones people get hurt. Doesn't matter if you're a reporter or not. If you choose to go somewhere dangerous, don't expect safety.
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heh.. finally the US is standing up a little too. i mean, we don't need the press pointing out our positions of all our troops. it's one thing to send a photographer with the team, who's going to be fairly unobtrusive. but it's another thing to expose soldiers to harm.
Finally, someone sees why the US would make a threat like that. If some retarded reporter is giving a live broadcast about our troops and giving away their position I would fully support killing that moron. That amounts to spying.
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March 14, 2003

Despite daily reports about the "showdown" with Iraq, Americans hear very little from mainstream media about the most basic fact of war: People will be killed and civilian infrastructure will be destroyed, with devastating consequences for public health long after the fighting stops.

Since the beginning of the year, according to a search of the Nexis database (1/1/03-3/12/03), none of the three major television networks' nightly national newscasts-- ABC World News Tonight, CBS Evening News or NBC Nightly News-- have examined in detail what long-term impact war will have on humanitarian conditions in Iraq. They've also downplayed the immediate civilian deaths that will be caused by a U.S. attack.

The closest thing to a report on the likely humanitarian impact to appear this year on the nightly newscasts was a January 23 CBS Evening News story about the mood in Iraq. Noting that "many [Iraqis] are genuinely scared" of war, the report stated that "almost half" of the country "would starve without government food handouts." But CBS's report shifted responsibility for any humanitarian disaster away from the U.S., suggesting that what Iraqis fear "perhaps even more than an American military attack" is that domestic "hatred and revenge could tear [Iraq] apart" in the aftermath.

The networks' failure to integrate humanitarian concerns into their war coverage is especially striking in light of the numerous humanitarian and relief agencies that have issued urgent warnings about the impending crisis. Human Rights Watch, for instance, issued a 25-page briefing paper (2/13/03) warning of a "humanitarian disaster" impacting hundreds of thousands of people if the U.S. attacks Iraq. ABC, CBS and NBC did not cover HRW's findings.

Nor did they cover the announcement made (also 2/13/03) by the United Nations' undersecretary-general for humanitarian affairs, Kenzo Oshima, that as many as 10 million people might need food assistance during and after an Iraq war, 50 percent of Iraq's population might be without potable water, and that between 600,000 and 1.45 million people might become refugees and asylum seekers.

Also unreported on ABC, CBS and NBC were the internal U.N. estimates revealed in leaked documents publicized by the Campaign Against Sanctions on Iraq and the Center for Economic and Social Rights. The U.N. predicted that 30 percent of Iraq's children under five "would be at risk of death from malnutrition" in the event of war (CASI press release, 2/17/03), and that 500,000 people could "require medical treatment? as a result of direct or indirect injuries," with potentially 100,000 Iraqi civilians wounded "and another 400,000 hit by disease after the bombing of water and sewage facilities and the disruption of food supplies" (London Guardian, 1/29/03).

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hahahaha, well boo fucking hoo. Maybe the people of the next rouge country will depose their leader and then they won't have to suffer war.

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hahahaha, well boo fucking hoo. Maybe the people of the next rouge country will depose their leader and then they won't have to suffer war.

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Dude, this was already covered on the news extensively on Monday. They even had Kate Adie on the radio. And the fact is, this article makes it sound as if we threatened to kill journalists, when the fact is we WARNED the journalists that they could get killed. That is a big difference!

America will bomb Iraqi commmunications centers, of course. If you are a journalist, it is ill advised to be at one of these communications centers because you might be there when we bomb.

Doesn't sound like a threat to me, but a warning.

It's funny no one would admit that this article is completely misleading, because it came from the European press. If it came from the U.S., and was presently accurately, people would blame it as being propanda.
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But...

Wouldn't I be a sheep for believing yet another media source? Oh wait, I'm sorry... this must be a liberal source of some sort, it must be true!

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Dude, this was already covered on the news extensively on Monday. They even had Kate Adie on the radio. And the fact is, this article makes it sound as if we threatened to kill journalists, when the fact is we WARNED the journalists that they could get killed. That is a big difference!

America will bomb Iraqi commmunications centers, of course. If you are a journalist, it is ill advised to be at one of these communications centers because you might be there when we bomb.

Doesn't sound like a threat to me, but a warning.

It's funny no one would admit that this article is completely misleading, because it came from the European press. If it came from the U.S., and was presently accurately, people would blame it as being propanda.
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Its simple the US will slaughter the Iraqi and they don't want it on film.

Like in the first gulf war there was that "road of death" scene which lead to an opinion change about the war and why it should end.
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