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StacyCat 08-13-2003 12:13 PM

How is killing a lobster any different than killing cows or turkey?

Turkeys, they string upside down, run them through electric salt water to stun them, then cut their heads off.

Cows get almost the same treatment, but they are hit with a stun gun before getting shot.

Would you really eat most meat if you had to kill it yourself?

freeadultcontent 08-13-2003 12:22 PM

They are basicly Ocean roaches, now do any of you get all touchy feely about how to humanly kill a roach?

SykkBoy 08-13-2003 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by StacyCat
How is killing a lobster any different than killing cows or turkey?

Turkeys, they string upside down, run them through electric salt water to stun them, then cut their heads off.

Cows get almost the same treatment, but they are hit with a stun gun before getting shot.

Would you really eat most meat if you had to kill it yourself?

I grew up on a farm in a hunting community, 99% of the meat we ate was self butchered.

So, myself personally, I don't have a problem with killing it before I grill it.

My bigger concern is buying meat from a store now, you have to be very careful because butchers can get careless and use dirty saw blades, meatgrinders, prep tables, etc.

With our self-butchered meat, it was nothing to eat raw hamburger on top of crackers or potato chips, but you just can't do that with store bought hamburger as you can't trust that the meat was handled properly.

CDSmith 08-13-2003 12:30 PM

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Originally posted by freeadultcontent
They are basicly Ocean roaches, now do any of you get all touchy feely about how to humanly kill a roach?
HA HA HA!!!!


lol @ 'ocean roaches' :1orglaugh




"yes, I'll have the steak & char-broiled ocean roach, and the lady will have the linguini with clam sauce"

Strife 08-13-2003 12:34 PM

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Originally posted by freeadultcontent
They are basicly Ocean roaches, now do any of you get all touchy feely about how to humanly kill a roach?

that's a stretch... :1orglaugh

freeadultcontent 08-13-2003 12:34 PM

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Originally posted by CDSmith
HA HA HA!!!!


lol @ 'ocean roaches' :1orglaugh




"yes, I'll have the steak & char-broiled ocean roach, and the lady will have the linguini with clam sauce"

Cmon dont tell me they aint related :winkwink:

johnie712 08-13-2003 12:40 PM

I attempted to boil a live lobster once... got him close to the water started to lower him in.. his tail went fuckin' nuts when he hit the water.... splashed boiling water all over myself, lobster got free... and backed himself behind my refridgerator!!

what a fuckin' nightmare...


then I couldn't even eat the fucker after I cooked him!!!

there was lobster poop all over the place... AAACK!!! :1orglaugh

sperbonzo 08-13-2003 12:49 PM

Quote:

They are basicly Ocean roaches, now do any of you get all touchy feely about how to humanly kill a roach?
Here in Miami it is now Lobster season, you can take your boat out offshore in about 10 to 15 feet of water around rocks and reefs and snorkle for them. All they do is crawl around on the bottom and eat trash, and rotting things, and they tend to hide from the daylight.

Everybody around here calls them "bugs"

freeadultcontent 08-13-2003 12:50 PM

In AU they also have another crustation they call bugs.

Face it people they are what I said they are, like it or not :winkwink:

freeadultcontent 08-13-2003 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sperbonzo


Here in Miami it is now Lobster season, you can take your boat out offshore in about 10 to 15 feet of water around rocks and reefs and snorkle for them. All they do is crawl around on the bottom and eat trash, and rotting things, and they tend to hide from the daylight.

Everybody around here calls them "bugs"

Ok, what would it take to get you to snorkle for a few of em, and send em fed-ex to CA? :winkwink:

sperbonzo 08-13-2003 12:54 PM

Quote:

Ok, what would it take to get you to snorkle for a few of em, and send em fed-ex to CA?

Would Fedex Ship live lobsters? I can grab half a dozen on a Saturday Morning. The license for a day is just $12 and you can take 6 per person, or up to 24 per boat.

sperbonzo 08-13-2003 12:55 PM

Maybe I should send some to fappeddotcom.... he seems hungry!

freeadultcontent 08-13-2003 12:56 PM

Fuck freeze em, and dry ice send em. I do not need them live.
So you can get 6 per day, and if you freeze them you could do a few days. lemme know your rate minus shipping. I am serious.

CDSmith 08-13-2003 01:41 PM

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Originally posted by johnie712
I attempted to boil a live lobster once... got him close to the water started to lower him in.. his tail went fuckin' nuts when he hit the water.... splashed boiling water all over myself, lobster got free... and backed himself behind my refridgerator!!

what a fuckin' nightmare...


then I couldn't even eat the fucker after I cooked him!!!

there was lobster poop all over the place... AAACK!!! :1orglaugh

Hilarious.

Next time use tongs. Big tongs. LONNNNNG tongs. Grab that sucker and don't just drop him in the boiling water, PUT him down IN the boiling water, and hold him with the tongs until he stops squirming and starts cooking.


Damn ocean roaches, afraid of a little hot tub action.:1orglaugh

Sly_RJ 08-13-2003 01:45 PM

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Originally posted by StacyCat


Would you really eat most meat if you had to kill it yourself?

I'd RATHER eat meat that I've killed than meat some $7 an hour guy killed and cleaned.

sperbonzo 08-13-2003 03:00 PM

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Fuck freeze em, and dry ice send em. I do not need them live.
I actually don't spend every day snorkeling for lobsters in Miami...It would sound good to say that though, wouldn't it?

:Graucho

Anyway, I would be glad to send you some the next time I go out. Find out for me what is involved in all this "freeze and dry ice and ship them" crap and I just send 'em to ya.


Send me an email [email protected]

Lane 08-13-2003 03:03 PM

its ok to kill and eat animals:

http://go.stileproject.com/?v=kitty.mpg

dnsmonster 08-13-2003 03:04 PM

If God didn't want us to eat animals he wouldn't have made them so tasty!

subsubbo 08-13-2003 03:18 PM

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Check out http://goveg.com for tons of info.

Lane 08-13-2003 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by subsubbo
If anyone is actually remotely interested in going veggie or vegan(I doubt it from reading most of these replies) then maybe this will put you over the top :

http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/Prefs.asp?video=mym2002

Check out http://goveg.com for tons of info.

mmmm, meat!

DarkJedi 04-13-2004 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by freeadultcontent
They are basicly Ocean roaches, now do any of you get all touchy feely about how to humanly kill a roach?
Why Ocean Roaches ?

Babagirls 04-13-2004 12:31 AM

i love lobster, but i could never pick them out of the tank at Red Lobster....

its like choosing a cow for a hamburger :2 cents:

baddog 04-13-2004 12:53 AM

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Originally posted by Babagirls
i love lobster, but i could never pick them out of the tank at Red Lobster....

its like choosing a cow for a hamburger :2 cents:

that would be huge hamburger

imafuckingaussie 04-13-2004 12:57 AM

Fuck it's definitely cruel, but human beings are generally pretty fucking cruel to animals. Of course they taste fucking great, but it would be good if they were killed instantly instead of slowly and painfully. Same as when people are fishing and they let those fuckers slowly die from no air, just bash em in the head first.

Good karma, dont want to come back as a fucking lobster.

ztik 04-13-2004 12:59 AM

His wife is prego right now for the 2nd time. Expecting 50 or so young this time (if she doesn't eat them all)
http://www.ztcash.com/stuff/MVC-280S.JPG :)

Danny Dukes 04-13-2004 02:15 AM

Damn it's 2 in the morning here and I have a fat ass Rib Eye Steak in the Refrigerator...looks like im eating!:thumbsup

baddog 04-13-2004 02:19 AM

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Originally posted by imafuckingaussie
Same as when people are fishing and they let those fuckers slowly die from no air, just bash em in the head first.


In Germany you have to do that

frank7799 04-13-2004 04:18 AM

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Originally posted by eiht_98
damn pussies......you bitch for a lobster...what about 1000000 of people dying every day....you don't bitch about them...
Cut them in a half and before boiling them alive. They will taste better then.

frank7799 04-13-2004 04:19 AM

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Originally posted by baddog


In Germany you have to do that

How do you know that?

xxxoutsourcing 04-13-2004 05:13 AM

I love seafood.....
it's gotta be as fresh as ya can get it.

gleb 04-13-2004 06:19 AM

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Originally posted by crockett
yumm yumm
"...seal its mouth and tie it tightly under a special table, with a hole in the center, so that only the monkey's head peaked above. Then the monkey's hair was shaved, the skull was cut open, and the brains were eaten while it was still alive. Sometimes the monkey's mouth was not sealed tightly enough, resulting in miserable screams or moans from under the table."

:helpme

BT 04-13-2004 06:25 AM

hit them with the fish bonker and that should ease the pain of the boiling:winkwink:

KMR Stitch 04-13-2004 06:26 AM

Great when did GFY care...

Odin88 04-13-2004 07:01 AM

Btw, an interesting fact I found out when reading up about hunting legislation:

Hitler?s first dictatorial act, after the passing of the Enabling Act (1933) was to regulate the cooking of lobsters (he was distressed by their screams when tossed into boiling water). Only then did he abolish free trade unions.

http://www.huntfacts.com/hitler.htm

Not trying to use this to take from or give to either arguement, but I found it pretty strange.

kath 04-13-2004 08:19 AM

Interesting topic - lol

Saw something about this on the Discovery Channel just a week or so ago. They say that lobsters HAVE to be boiled alive because they have some sort of bacteria that takes hold and spreads quickly if they are killed first.

Also - they DON'T scream. The guy said that the noise people hear is air pockets filling with water when they are submerged. He says you can put them into normal temp water and hear the same thing. It's just our own little *guilt trip* for boiling something alive that makes us think that sound is a scream.

Personally I don't like lobster - but hub loves the stuff. My daughter is the type that wants to buy the lobsters at the grocery store and set them free. Kinda hard to do in the middle of the desert though - I think he'd flip his claw at you and say "just boil me dammit!" lol

:thumbsup

Nanda 04-13-2004 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by freeadultcontent
They are basicly Ocean roaches, now do any of you get all touchy feely about how to humanly kill a roach?
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :thumbsup

Mr Pheer 04-13-2004 08:45 AM

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Originally posted by ScriptBall
yeah its cruel and those little buggers scream when you pop them in the water,
Lobsters are incapable of screaming.

The sound that you hear is caused by the lobster's bodily fluids turning to steam and escaping its shell.

stephanie m. 04-13-2004 08:48 AM

Of course its cruel to boil a lobster alive. Its also cruel to boil puppies, kittens, and people alive. People tend to sympathize with cute animals, but just about anything with a nervous system can experience pain.

Sarah_Jayne 04-13-2004 08:50 AM

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Originally posted by KRL




We live in a fucked up world where everything has to eat something else to stay alive unfortunately. I was watching a show showing how lobsters kill to eat so its not like they don't inflict pain and death on other creatures as well.


wether we like it or not that is what is called the food chain. Big fish eats smaller fish, bigger fish eats big fish.

Babel 04-13-2004 08:53 AM

I'll ask them tonight for you what they think about it

SuckOnThis 04-13-2004 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SykkBoy2



My bigger concern is buying meat from a store now, you have to be very careful because butchers can get careless and use dirty saw blades, meatgrinders, prep tables, etc.


Actually the bigger problem with meat these days is all the antibiotics and hormones that are pumped into the animals, not to mention the food and water the animals are fed are contaminated a lot of times.

Same goes for fruits and vegetables. Pesticides and fertilizers are sprayed on plants, the soil used to grow vegetables has been overused it no longer contains the minerals to produce healthy plants naturally. Then the produce is sprayed with wax to make them look better.

If you don't think these chemicals get into your hahahaha you are dead wrong. 100 years ago cancer, diabetes, etc were virtually unheard of in young people, now its almost at epidemic proportions.

Organic is the only way to really eat healthy.

Lucy 04-13-2004 09:24 AM

cruel :( , could you imagine be boiled alive? I don't think that you would like it.:BangBang:

Tania 04-13-2004 09:27 AM

fuck i dont like lobster you can boil them

stephanie m. 04-13-2004 09:27 AM

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Originally posted by SuckOnThis


Actually the bigger problem with meat these days is all the antibiotics and hormones that are pumped into the animals, not to mention the food and water the animals are fed are contaminated a lot of times.

Same goes for fruits and vegetables. Pesticides and fertilizers are sprayed on plants, the soil used to grow vegetables has been overused it no longer contains the minerals to produce healthy plants naturally. Then the produce is sprayed with wax to make them look better.

If you don't think these chemicals get into your hahahaha you are dead wrong. 100 years ago cancer, diabetes, etc were virtually unheard of in young people, now its almost at epidemic proportions.

Organic is the only way to really eat healthy.


Unfortunately, even organic foods can be contaminated by genetically modified foods. Cross polination is a reality.

eiht_98 04-13-2004 09:31 AM

off topic...how do these threads come alive after such a long time<?

SuckOnThis 04-13-2004 09:34 AM

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Originally posted by stephanie m.



Unfortunately, even organic foods can be contaminated by genetically modified foods. Cross polination is a reality.

True, nothing is perfect, but there are pretty strict guidelines for something to be certified organic. For meat the guidelines are:

* No pesticides, antibiotics or hormones.

* 100% certified organic feed and pasture, which means no genetically modified foods seeds or feeds or and is raised without herbicides, pesticides or chemical fertilizers.

* No nitrates, nitrites or preservatives.

* Animals are never fed animal by-products.

* Freedom of movement for animals, with full access to the outdoors. Humane treatment of animals (defined by the Humane Society of the United States.)

* Farm and farm records are inspected every year by a third party to ensure the standards are being enforced.

Magnus 04-13-2004 10:01 AM

So all you lobster mourners are Vegetarians? Don't wear leather shoes or belts..no leather in the car?

DarkJedi 01-03-2005 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Magnus3X
So all you lobster mourners are Vegetarians? Don't wear leather shoes or belts..no leather in the car?

That's different.

pxxx 01-03-2005 07:02 PM

Better than burning a cat live. imo

Rorschach 01-03-2005 07:07 PM

another example of human barbarism... it pains me


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