Paysite owners: Removing ACH - GoFuckYourself.com

ztik · 08-12-2003, 10:41 AM

Have any of you removed ACH all together from your sites?
I'm getting 70%-90% of these fuckers returned and I can't stand the shit.
Will people bust out a credit card if they don't have the ACH option?
How bad did it hurt conversions ratio's?

ztik · 08-12-2003, 10:48 AM

I'm generating negative revenue off this shit

johnny5 · 08-12-2003, 10:51 AM

i had the same exact problem when i was running my last sites...

detoxed · 08-12-2003, 10:52 AM

Thats because surfers KNOW that all they have to do is make up the info and it'll go through no problem.

chupacabra · 08-12-2003, 10:56 AM

checks suck... we quit taking them altogether about 2 years ago and never looked back, too many people know how to fool the check systems that allow instant-access so most of the returns would be generated from accounts that never even existed in the first place, the password-trader people know about this weakness of course.

i think check systems that make surfers wait for check verification are Ok, but of course most surfers want instant gratification so thats a moot point IMO. ditch checks, and quit seeing such painful return amounts, i used to see them too and my blood would boil..

johnny5 · 08-12-2003, 10:58 AM

but if your running an affiliate program, dont you think not offering checks would scare away webmasters?

ztik · 08-12-2003, 11:00 AM

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Originally posted by johnny5
but if your running an affiliate program, dont you think not offering checks would scare away webmasters?

Yeah, im sure it'll hurt conversions too. Thats why I really don't want to remove it. But, its generating negative revenue. I don't really have a choice

Mikey_219Inc · 08-12-2003, 11:03 AM

dont some processors do "check" the check in real time?

Mikey

chupacabra · 08-12-2003, 11:08 AM

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But, its generating negative revenue. I don't really have a choice

thats it in a nutshell, negative revenue speaks for itself..

seven · 08-12-2003, 11:12 AM

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Originally posted by Mikey_219Inc
dont some processors do "check" the check in real time?

Think probilling has that option

ztik · 08-12-2003, 11:17 AM

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Originally posted by seven

Think probilling has that option

Anyone work with these guys? Looks like a good deal

Alvaro · 08-12-2003, 11:20 AM

take a look at achdebit.com, they only work with checks

they also take canada checks

#1 check company in the biz

payton · 08-12-2003, 11:48 AM

I use Probilling ACH (Directcheck that cascades to Checksmart)

The directcheck product has very few (<3%) returns (for bad bank accts that got through the system) and NO nsfs or chargebacks

This is the best system out there right now and the "everything get through" ach processors can't compete

P

08-12-2003, 10:51 AM	#3
johnny5 Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: i.e. - biatches Posts: 291	i had the same exact problem when i was running my last sites... __________________ sincerely, me

08-12-2003, 10:58 AM	#6
johnny5 Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: i.e. - biatches Posts: 291	but if your running an affiliate program, dont you think not offering checks would scare away webmasters? __________________ sincerely, me

08-12-2003, 11:03 AM	#8
Mikey_219Inc Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: i dont even know ... Posts: 1,876	dont some processors do "check" the check in real time? Mikey __________________ Let him who hath understanding reckon the WISDOM of the TOOF!

08-12-2003, 10:41 AM	#1
ztik Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Nomad Posts: 5,196	Paysite owners: Removing ACH Have any of you removed ACH all together from your sites? I'm getting 70%-90% of these fuckers returned and I can't stand the shit. Will people bust out a credit card if they don't have the ACH option? How bad did it hurt conversions ratio's?

08-12-2003, 10:48 AM	#2
ztik Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Nomad Posts: 5,196	I'm generating negative revenue off this shit

08-12-2003, 10:52 AM	#4
detoxed vip member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,798	Thats because surfers KNOW that all they have to do is make up the info and it'll go through no problem.

08-12-2003, 10:56 AM	#5
chupacabra Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 3,626	checks suck... we quit taking them altogether about 2 years ago and never looked back, too many people know how to fool the check systems that allow instant-access so most of the returns would be generated from accounts that never even existed in the first place, the password-trader people know about this weakness of course. i think check systems that make surfers wait for check verification are Ok, but of course most surfers want instant gratification so thats a moot point IMO. ditch checks, and quit seeing such painful return amounts, i used to see them too and my blood would boil..

08-12-2003, 11:20 AM	#12
Alvaro Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Brazil Posts: 695	take a look at achdebit.com, they only work with checks they also take canada checks #1 check company in the biz

08-12-2003, 11:48 AM	#13
payton Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 20	I use Probilling ACH (Directcheck that cascades to Checksmart) The directcheck product has very few (<3%) returns (for bad bank accts that got through the system) and NO nsfs or chargebacks This is the best system out there right now and the "everything get through" ach processors can't compete P